Do you believe life is deterministic

[Dude420]

Determinism: all events, including human action, are ultimately determined by causes external to the will. Some philosophers have taken determinism to imply that individual human beings have no free will and cannot be held morally responsible for their actions.

Compatibilism is the belief that free will and determinism are mutually compatible and that it is possible to believe in both without being logically inconsistent. Compatibilists believe freedom can be present or absent in situations for reasons that have nothing to do with metaphysics.

Free will is the ability to choose between different possible courses of action unimpeded. Free will is closely linked to the concepts of responsibility, praise, guilt, sin, and other judgements which apply only to actions that are freely chosen.

 

[Zesto]

Yes I am determined to go to Japan and ascend so I will.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

believing in purely free will is
and not the kind that makes you good with numbers

 

[Curious0]

Yes I am determined to go to Japan and ascend so I will.

 

[Deleted member 14577]

If you made a computer that can calculate in every variable, a perfect supercomputer with the sole intenton to predict outcomes, it would be able to predict every action anyone will take for the rest of their life because it can take in every aspect of your personality. More than that it would predict the movement of every atom and subatomic particle for the rest of existance.
The mere existance of rules and laws that govern our universe imply that there are absolutes and if there are absolutes that would mean that the begining of existance is like a y=x*3 type equation by which every x will be already determined from negative to positive infinity, we all just experience different x's for a brief period. That being said I think that believing in free will is in human nature so I guess I'm a compatibilist.

 

[Dude420]

If you made a computer that can calculate in every variable, a perfect supercomputer with the sole intenton to predict outcomes, it would be able to predict every action anyone will take for the rest of their life because it can take in every aspect of your personality. More than that it would predict the movement of every atom and subatomic particle for the rest of existance.
The mere existance of rules and laws that govern our universe imply that there are absolutes and if there are absolutes that would mean that the begining of existance is like a y=x*3 type equation by which every x will be already determined from negative to positive infinity, we all just experience different x's for a brief period. That being said I think that believing in free will is in human nature so I guess I'm a compatibilist.

This is just our mind tricking us into believing we have agency over our actions, your actions are still nonetheless deterministic, it is just an illusory adaptive mental bias. If you believe a supercomputer can predict the future you are a determinist.

 

[Abomination]

Indeterminism and the non-existence of free will are not incompatible with each other.

The universe is at the very least subjectively indeterministic as a result of the laws of quantum mechanics. If the many-worlds interpretation is correct, then the universe has a single wave function that evolves deterministically, which means that every possible configuration of the universe is realized in at least one timeline; however, the time-evolution of the universe would be indeterministic to individuals in any given branch, hence subjective indeterminism.

 

[Dude420]

Indeterminism and the non-existence of free will are not incompatible with each other.

The universe is at the very least subjectively indeterministic as a result of the laws of quantum mechanics. If the many-worlds interpretation is correct, then the universe has a single wave function that evolves deterministically, which means that every possible configuration of the universe is realized in at least one timeline; however, the time-evolution of the universe would be indeterministic to individuals in any given branch, hence subjective indeterminism.

Every possible configuration; what number of configuration seems most probable to you following your logic or is it infinite?

 

[Abomination]

Every possible configuration; what number of configuration seems most probable to you following your logic or is it infinite?

If time proceeds infinitely, then the total number of possible events is infinite, hence the total number of events that happens is infinite (since every possible event occurs in at least one timeline), hence the number of timelines is infinite.

 

[Dude420]

If time proceeds infinitely, then the total number of possible events is infinite, hence the total number of events that happens is infinite (since every possible event occurs in at least one timeline), hence the number of timelines is infinite.

And how some form of free will manifest itself in your theory?

 

[Ritalincel]

no man

 

[Abomination]

And how some form of free will manifest itself in your theory?

I never claimed that it does. Re-read my original post. Indeterminacy and the existence of free will are not equivalent.

In fact, the MWI negates free will. If you take choice A in one universe, there's another universe where you took choice B.

 

[Dude420]

I never claimed that it does. Re-read my original post. Indeterminacy and the existence of free will are not equivalent.

Oh yeah my bad.

 

[Dude420]

The high IQ of this forum is even higher than I expected.

 

[StaroRavager]

I voted for compatibalisim but there are some cases in which determinism completely controls an individuals life

 

[incelgration]

Compatibilism = cope. Determinism negates free will - these 2 concepts cannot exist at same time.

 

[Dude420]

 

[GameDevCel]

Determinism: all events, including human action, are ultimately determined by causes external to the will. Some philosophers have taken determinism to imply that individual human beings have no free will and cannot be held morally responsible for their actions.

Compatibilism is the belief that free will and determinism are mutually compatible and that it is possible to believe in both without being logically inconsistent. Compatibilists believe freedom can be present or absent in situations for reasons that have nothing to do with metaphysics.

Free will is the ability to choose between different possible courses of action unimpeded. Free will is closely linked to the concepts of responsibility, praise, guilt, sin, and other judgements which apply only to actions that are freely chosen.

Walter os wet

 

[Adolf_Hitler]

I would define myself as a determinist. However, it depends on what form of determinism we're defining. Biological determinism is the true form of determinism. It's responsible for every moral resolution and set of ideas that encompass humankind.

 

[Wonder]

Yes I am determined to go to Japan and ascend so I will.

Heh, the nostalgia.

Anyway, life is deterministic.

 

[Deleted member 14382]

Yes. Your genes are your destiny.

 

[Deleted member 1042]

It’s better for your health if you believed you had some control over your destiny.

 

[Notgoingtomakeit]

No clue man, It's foolish to believe in any of the three options as we no nothing of this world.

 

[Michael15651]

As of now adays I’d say deterministic.