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Do you any faith in MRAs ?

ERcell

ERcell

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Firstly MRA should not be counted in manosphere as these men are blue pilled.

Secondlly these MRAs include females in their movement and many times women are kept in the forefront.

Are these MRAs cucks or will they be able to bring any change ?

Although these men are blue pilled but they are working for bringing some change which can be beneficial to us . Do you have any faith in them ?
 
Nothing will change it will only get worse from here.
 
A lot of them are just oldcels, they're a brick wall to try and talk to about real solutions but they have the right instincts, best to just let them be
 
I think incels and mgtow will be more effective in reducing femoid smv and getting laws changed. MRAs aren't aggressive enough, but they bring up good arguments and statistics sometimes.
 
I think incels and mgtow will be more effective in reducing femoid smv and getting laws changed. MRAs aren't aggressive enough, but they bring up good arguments and statistics sometimes.

mgotws are increasingly becoming blue pilled , the movement have changed very much . Many cucks are joining the mgtows in large numbers . Most of them do not hate women anymore because of cope overdose.
 
No because they are comprised mostly of society's rejects anyways. No one takes them seriously
 
you cannot change female nature, to do that you'd have to erase millions of years of evolution.
 
mgotws are increasingly becoming blue pilled , the movement have changed very much . Many cucks are joining the mgtows in large numbers . Most of them do not hate women anymore because of cope overdose.
They don't have to hate women, although it helps, they can be a good gateway for sub6 men to be lead here.
No because they are comprised mostly of society's rejects anyways. No one takes them seriously
Cucked society needs to stop judging the messenger and learn to judge the message instead.
:soy:
 
They don't have to hate women, although it helps, they can be a good gateway for sub6 men to be lead here.

Cucked society needs to stop judging the messenger and learn to judge the message instead.

:soy:


Yeah but I dont dictate the laws of nature
 
Yeah but I dont dictate the laws of nature
The cucked system we live in is anything but natural. We need sexbots, male birth control, legal and government funded escorts, and cucked laws being changed. Then getting our looksmatches will be a lot easier.
 
There is no political solution to feminism. MRAs are deluded. Also the movement got co-opted by femoids.
 
Reminder that only 1 in 17 men got laid when society didnt exist

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success
Reproduction isn't the same as getting laid. Men were still able to have sex with hookers and lots of families didn't want kids or couldn't raise them so they died early.
There is no political solution to feminism. MRAs are deluded. Also the movement got co-opted by femoids.
Feminism isn't based in logic or facts, there's many solutions to stop it.
 
Reproduction isn't the same as getting laid. Men were still able to have sex with hookers and lots of families didn't want kids or couldn't raise them so they died early.

Feminism is based in no logic or facts, there's many solutions to stop it.

Hypergamy is the natural state. Society was only created because chad had too much power. If there are 16 sexually frustrated men and 1 guy who gets all the girls, guess who is gonna get their head split open?
 
Hypergamy is the natural state. Society was only created because chad had too much power. If there are 16 sexually frustrated men and 1 guy who gets all the girls, guess who is gonna get their head split open?
Only 100 years ago men were able to get their looksmatches a lot easier than now. We need to go back to something like that, not too far back in the future or how it is today.
 
Only 100 years ago men were able to get their looksmatches a lot easier than now. We need to go back to something like that, not too far back in the future or how it is today.

It will never happen because

1) porn
2) online dating
3) the brains of humans are permanently and irreversibly fucked up now


80% of men are incels or cuckolds. Even if they were all blackpilled like us very few of them would do anything due to the low testosterone in their bodies. Rather just watch animes, porn and play video games. Thats exactly what society wants ugly men to do. Just stay in your room and don't disturb the equilibrium
 
Mgtows and incels are similar. We just gave up in the dating game and subsenqunetly gave up in everything
 
80% of men are incels or cuckolds. Even if they were all blackpilled like us very few of them would do anything due to the low testosterone in their bodies. Rather just watch animes, porn and play video games. Thats exactly what society wants ugly men to do. Just stay in your room and don't disturb the equilibrium
Many of those 80% are gymcels and highly motivated. (((They))) keep trying to shut down incel sites because we're blackpilling those 80%, but they won't be able to do it anymore. Things will start to be in our favor when cucked laws are removed, sexbots arrive, and male birth control is on the market.
 
Many of those 80% are gymcels and highly motivated. (((They))) keep trying to shut down incel sites because we're blackpilling those 80%, then things will start to be more in our favor when cucked laws are removed, sexbots arrive, and male birth control is on the market.

Yes but we need to blackpill enough men to start WW3 and liberate the people from (((them))) once and for all. Being a nazi and hating jews is already the edgy thing for teens to do. Just wait till they grow up.
 
Yes but we need to blackpill enough men to start WW3 and liberate the people from (((them))) once and for all. Being a nazi and hating jews is already the edgy thing for teens to do. Just wait till they grow up.
Whatever way you think works as long as ethic incels get to have prime white jb's.
 
It's necessary, but not really revolutionary or game changing in any way. It's deterrence, imo.
 
Kilroy was the peak. It will never be the same.
 
MGTOW started off on the right path...

Until they finally dwelled in copes of getting revenge on women by the wall lol...

And than they are now cucks...

MGTOW and MRAS... are just that... CONTROLLED opposition....

Out of this was born the INCEL BLACKPILLED MOVEMENT....

Looksmaxxing is ONLY for a defective CHAD....THAT IS IT....

Looksmaxxing is basically for repairing a Ferrari... Not overhauling a crappy honda civic....
 
Until they finally dwelled in copes of getting revenge on women by the wall lol...
Foids can still get pumped and dumped after they hit the wall, but only the lowest form of cucks would marry them after they're 30.
Looksmaxxing is ONLY for a defective CHAD....THAT IS IT....
Hopefully this won't be forever once men stop being pathetic cucks.
 
Obviously not
 
Whatever way you think works as long as ethic incels get to have prime white jb's.

No race mixing in my utopia. And all the ethnics sent back to their countries.
 
No race mixing in my utopia. And all the ethnics sent back to their countries.
The ethnics already became domesticated, if you want them to go back you have to rebuild their countries to accommodate them or give them a million dollars each before they leave.
 
The ethnics already became domesticated, if you want them to go back you have to rebuild their countries to accommodate them or give them a million dollars each before they leave.

No. Just send them back and call it a day. No more guilt tripping white people into giving you free shit
 
Some may be good and well-intentioned people, but yeah, it's hopeless and bluepilled.
I think incels and mgtow will be more effective in reducing femoid smv and getting laws changed. MRAs aren't aggressive enough, but they bring up good arguments and statistics sometimes.
I also think incels are unironically the forefront of the manosphere right now. Incels are a far biggest danger to the gynocentric, feminist and hypergamous status quo than MGTOWs, MRAs or any other group really.
 
I also think incels are unironically the forefront of the manosphere right now. Incels are a far biggest danger to the gynocentric, feminist and hypergamous status quo than MGTOWs, MRAs or any other group really.
High iq. We've been all over the news and become a lot more known than MRAs and mgtow combined. We'll be even more known in the next few years.
 
Yes but we need to blackpill enough men to start WW3 and liberate the people from (((them))) once and for all. Being a nazi and hating jews is already the edgy thing for teens to do. Just wait till they grow up.
Love how they actually hate the Jews instead of Adolf who only wanted to send them to Palestine
 
Is this in response to the incels thread that appeared on the voice for men website?
Apparently one of their numbers came on here and was trying to "help" us. For a brief time we clearly had an enlightened one of the MRAs among us. If only we would have allowed ourselves to be mentored by our clear superior, we could be free of our troubles.
As remember, its always our fault/failure!
And it seems only one of their number had even a the slightest clue, leaving that sentiment largely unopposed.

The only MRA I ever really liked was randomercam. But the movement in general seems to want to hold up the women they have as beacons for no more reason than to say, look there are woman here. While I find girlwriteswhat to be very capable, they can only sympathize with our situations, as she herself has easily had many partners.
Alas the good Doc seems to be struggling, not just with sub numbers but in general. Which is a shame, as I really like the way he responds to what people are saying rather than how their saying it.

Men have always been disposable, which is why we have always been ignored, the problem is that feminism came along and said 'that's privileged' and so women should have it, with no chance of them ever being considered disposable. And all the MRAs are doing is pointing at and in some ways enforcing the system that keeps them irrelevant.

Only 100 years ago men were able to get their looksmatches a lot easier than now. We need to go back to something like that, not too far back in the future or how it is today.
That's baseless rubbish. Along with some state funded sex worker rubbish.
The evidence shows that there has always been more women reproducing than men, that hypergamy has always been woman's defining motivation.
What has changed was acceptance. It was accepted that women were shallow and vapid and that will always result in some men getting left out. But now, just like with everything fucking thing else, men are blamed for it!
We get all of this bullshit about how its our fault, we just have to put in ALL the effort, and we can't complain if we don't. Its out fault cause we clearly just have to improve ourselves, and unlike them (the alpha wannabes I call them) we are clearly just too lazy too do so.

Rant Done!
 
That's baseless rubbish. Along with some state funded sex worker rubbish.
State funded hookers will be a real thing I believe.
The evidence shows that there has always been more women reproducing than men, that hypergamy has always been woman's defining motivation.
Reproduction isn't the same as getting laid. Men were still able to have sex with hookers and lots of families didn't want kids or couldn't raise them so they died early.
 
Men were still able to have sex with hookers and lots of families didn't want kids or couldn't raise them so they died early.
This was not the case before contraception. A thing we have not had for the majority of our history!

Reproduction isn't the same as getting laid.
Most definitely not the bloody case before contraception!
 
There was still blowjobs and anal.
True, but your still a long way from demonstrating a Utopian or improved time for sex equality.
Is it your assertion that women were frequently giving blowjobs to low status men and then spreading their legs for the chads of old? Or that many women died having having never done anything other than anal and oral with multiple men?
To be honest, I may just be getting a little hung up on the words here. Its the "a lot easier than now" part I'm stuck on, would you mind elaborating that point for me?
 
True, but your still a long way from demonstrating a Utopian or improved time for sex equality.
Is it your assertion that women were frequently giving blowjobs to low status men and then spreading their legs for the chads of old? Or that many women died having having never done anything other than anal and oral with multiple men?
To be honest, I may just be getting a little hung up on the words here. Its the "a lot easier than now" part I'm stuck on, would you mind elaborating that point for me?
The "low status" guys are their looksmatches, so they didn't see them as low status back then and would happily give them blowjobs and anal. Giving birth back then was dangerous and caused many mothers to die giving birth, so they didn't want to do it that often. If only chads were the ones reproducing then we'd all be chads today and there wouldn't be any bald guys or manlets.
 
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MGTOW started off on the right path...

Until they finally dwelled in copes of getting revenge on women by the wall lol...

And than they are now cucks...

MGTOW and MRAS... are just that... CONTROLLED opposition....

Out of this was born the INCEL BLACKPILLED MOVEMENT....

Looksmaxxing is ONLY for a defective CHAD....THAT IS IT....

Looksmaxxing is basically for repairing a Ferrari... Not overhauling a crappy honda civic....
High IQ
This was not the case before contraception. A thing we have not had for the majority of our history!


Most definitely not the bloody case before contraception!
low iq, even Ancient Egyptians have learned how to prevent impregnation of women
 
The "low status" guys are their looksmatches, so they didn't see them as low status back then and would happily give them blowjobs and anal. Giving birth back then was dangerous and caused many mothers to die giving birth. If only chads were the ones reproducing then we'd all be chads today and there wouldn't be any bald guys or manlets.
That would seem to imply that it is only chads who have attained high status historically, so the two groups are indistinguishable?
(i.e Wealth and attractiveness)

I would concede that its chads and high status men, but I'm not conflating the two. That because there was no contraception, women couldn't completely control whether it was her rich husband or attractive lover that fathered her child. But it has also been shown that women are more prone to infidelity while they are ovulating, i.e. when they are more fertile. So they still had some control and instinctively sought out chads to reproduce.
And by your logic you could argue that women used to sleep with sick men, or else we would have no sickness today. Or pick any negative trait, shouldn't they all be wiped out? There will always be variation in a species regardless of how strong the sexual selectivity in that species is.
And the risks of birth don't support your point either. Unless you are too assume that birth risks only affect the children of half of the men, but they don't. They effectively influence a random cross section with a slight variance for those who could acquire better living conditions, i.e the very small number of high status men.

I guess I'm still just trying to ascertain what your basis for believing that there was better sexual equality between the genders, as I've not seen it yet?
 
I would concede that its chads and high status men, but I'm not conflating the two. That because there was no contraception, women couldn't completely control whether it was her rich husband or attractive lover that fathered her child. But it has also been shown that women are more prone to infidelity while they are ovulating, i.e. when they are more fertile. So they still had some control and instinctively sought out chads to reproduce.
Getting your looksmatch and having her cheat on you every now and then is no where near as bad as complete inceldom.
And by your logic you could argue that women used to sleep with sick men, or else we would have no sickness today. Or pick any negative trait, shouldn't they all be wiped out? There will always be variation in a species regardless of how strong the sexual selectivity in that species is.
80% of men are sub6 like you said though. Those sub6's back then must've had very high quality sperm if they beat the chad's sperm 8 times out of 10. If 100 kids are born only one will be born with a major sickness on average, but 8 out of 10 being sub6's is too big of a coincidence, to that proves they were able to get laid much easier at that time.
 

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