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This was on Reddit in response to someone saying he was wrong to want less freedom for people. And he got 120 upvotes for this.
"Of course I don't support it, I'm not some autist who prefers freedom over order. Should people be free to kill themselves on opiates? Should women be free to whore around and not have kids and destroy their societies? Humanity has shown constantly it cannot be allowed to govern itself and needs a strong hand to keep it strangled and in place."
And this is not just about what he said about women.
 
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As far as women's rights are concerned, remove em all.
 
People who sacrifice freedom for security are the lowest life forms on this planet.

Parasites have more dignity than these vermin.
 
For opiates that’s in relation to other suicides but there should be the freedom to insult whores on the spot. I blame PC culture for allowing whoredom to spread.
This was on Reddit in response to someone saying he was wrong to want less freedom for people. And he got 120 upvotes for this.
"Of course I don't support it, I'm not some autist who prefers freedom over order. Should people be free to kill themselves on opiates? Should women be free to whore around and not have kids and destroy their societies? Humanity has shown constantly it cannot be allowed to govern itself and needs a strong hand to keep it strangled and in place."
And this is not just about what he said about women.
People who sacrifice freedom for security are the lowest life forms on this planet.

Parasites have more dignity than these vermin.
@watcher people, especially the coming gen have lost all sense of self and responsibility.
 
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I don't agree.

People who sacrifice freedom for security are the lowest life forms on this planet.

Parasites have more dignity than these vermin.
Exactly. These people, for some reason, are under the impression that "security" would work in their favour.
 
I support freedom of speech for all humans. I do not regard foids as humans.
 
He did just one mistake in his thought process: this supposedly needed strong hand is a faulty human as well. It is simply an idealist gamble, let alone solving the successor question. Humans are not to be trusted with power.

Also we are currently in this shit cause to many strong men think they can rule over the pleb with their money.

Show me one actual system were people govern themselves. Strawman tbh.

Self government would mean 24/7 revocable mandates, direct democracy, no corporate media or influences, no worker extortion, democratic economy. This would be internally much more stable. People learn quickly through trial and error, once they actually have the power and transparency.
 
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Then the "strong" people in power start abusing their powers, resulting in loss of both security and freedom for the people.
 
I agree. Unless you're an anarchist, don't preach to me about your freedom because I dont take retards seriously.
 
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Agree. Freedom is a just a meme to disguise the fact that power is the only thing that matters.
 
No matter what, both freedom and order suck for incels. We always lose and Chad always wins

In a "free" society, chad benefits because people willingly want to associate/collaborate with him and this gives him power, influence and wealth. Since people are free to not co-operate with incels, they slide down the social (and therefore wealth/power) ladder.

In an "ordered" society, chad benefits because who else would have the privilege to become the leader at the top pulling the strings and maintaining the order? Definitely not some incel rando who won't win favour with anybody.
 
I would sign for Christian antiliberal authoritarianism. Even before Jesus will come back and reign on earth.
 
Liberty for males is important. Liberty does not give you the rights to kill someone because you infringe on their liberty to live.

Women should be second class serfs with not rights though, because animals don’t have rights.
 
Hard disagree with that retard. And of course he feels the need to trash autists, many of whom IQ-mog him to a different planet and back.

The "hard hand to keep it strangled and in its place" NEVER FUCKING WORKS.

Why is that? Because the idiots we put in power are no different than us, and so THEY THEMSELVES JUST BREAK ALL THE RULES.

And then we're much worse off than we would have been with pure freedom all along. Exactly like what we see now all around us.

How do normies have such a hard time with this concept?
No matter what, both freedom and order suck for incels. We always lose and Chad always wins

In a "free" society, chad benefits because people willingly want to associate/collaborate with him and this gives him power, influence and wealth. Since people are free to not co-operate with incels, they slide down the social (and therefore wealth/power) ladder.

In an "ordered" society, chad benefits because who else would have the privilege to become the leader at the top pulling the strings and maintaining the order? Definitely not some incel rando who won't win favour with anybody.

Order sucks much harder for incels than liberty. Foids benefit ENORMOUSLY from order.

This is an indisputable, empirical fact.

If you doubt it, simply look at foid and simp voting patterns. They're heavily left-leaning.
 
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taxing people is restricting freedom. welfare restricts freedom of people who want to spend the money they earned instead of having to sustain some bastard and her whore mom.
 
Plato IQ. Normgroids and femoids only understand brutal force. It is explained by their passive nature towards (((government))) and Chads.
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Plato IQ. Normgroids and femoids only understand brutal force. It is explained by their passive nature towards (((government))) and Chads.
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Women never deserved rights. Law and order is needed to keep humans in check, but especially women. You cannot have a functioning human society this the weaker gender in equal power as males.
 
I agree with that statement
 
Liberty for males is important. Liberty does not give you the rights to kill someone because you infringe on their liberty to live.
I was thinking about this earlier today. Supporting civil liberties even when it is unpopular is a good course of action in a society that is always seeking to make an example out of you and trying to use public opinion and consensus to try and bend the rules.
 
Women never deserved rights. Law and order is needed to keep humans in check, but especially women. You cannot have a functioning human society this the weaker gender in equal power as males.
Tesla IQ. #REPEALTHE19TH
 
Women never deserved rights. Law and order is needed to keep humans in check, but especially women. You cannot have a functioning human society this the weaker gender in equal power as males.
The problem with that statement is that it never specified what "order" meant.

When a soyfag refers to "order", he means depriving incels of their civil liberties.
 
I agree that foids shouldn’t be allowed to whore around and should be kept in cages and can only be out if they are on a leash.
 
The problem with that statement is that it never specified what "order" meant.

When a soyfag refers to "order", he means depriving incels of their civil liberties.
Order means anything that isn't the state Brazil, Mexico, or hati is in. If you need further explanation then visit bestgore or hoodsite
 
This was on Reddit in response to someone saying he was wrong to want less freedom for people. And he got 120 upvotes for this.
"Of course I don't support it, I'm not some autist who prefers freedom over order. Should people be free to kill themselves on opiates? Should women be free to whore around and not have kids and destroy their societies? Humanity has shown constantly it cannot be allowed to govern itself and needs a strong hand to keep it strangled and in place."
And this is not just about what he said about women.
He is right, which is why I cringe when mutts and stormcucks reee about Islam "taking muh freedomz away". Humans are retarded when they're given too much freedom
 
He is right, which is why I cringe when mutts and stormcucks reee about Islam "taking muh freedomz away". Humans are retarded when they're given too much freedom
When they do that, it's exclusivly towards women, but I've seen a ton recently unironically agree with them on women.
 
For when they shall say, peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes upon them…

This was the case with every civilization so far. Western Hampshire will be no different. Both freedom and security can suck my balls. Accept the natural order which is chaos and let things play out.
 
People who sacrifice freedom for security are the lowest life forms on this planet.

Parasites have more dignity than these vermin.

I don't know what the original cuckit comment is referring to originally, and I won't comment on the trade-off for freedom for security, but will briefly comment about the idea of freedom itself instead to illustrate why sacrificing freedom can contribute to order.

Most people don't have the wisdom to exercise power with the big picture in mind and they become corrupted and self-serving. The same goes for freedom. Absolute freedom is anarchy and, as our friend the joker reminded us, is chaos. This is why we create laws and impose them on society by force. The average person doesn't have the intelligence, wisdom, and foresight to realize, understand, and accept that their self-serving actions can be and are typically immature and can easily be destructive to society at large.

Take driving, for instance. Yes, I know it's a privilege, not a right or a freedom, but the essence of the idea carries over. The next time you're driving on the road, for example, look for the asshole drivers (use the sun visor mirror, if you happen to be one of them) and see how they behave. Then imagine the potential damage their recklessness can cause. Potential accidents obviously. But what does that do? Ruin somebody's day? Yeah, definitely. Possibly severely injure or kill them too. It will involve the police, the insurance companies, waste hours of both (at fault and faultless driver) of their days on that day and on days to come, and it slows down traffic for the hundreds of other cards coming up behind.

And that's just driving. It doesn't touch upon the entire set of all possible actions we could take and the effects of chaotic behaviors - made possible by granting freedom to do x - but I'm sure you can think through them on your own.

He did just one mistake in his thought process: this supposedly needed strong hand is a faulty human as well. It is simply an idealist gamble, let alone solving the successor question. Humans are not to be trusted with power.

Why? I want to know your reasoning.

Also we are currently in this shit cause to many strong men think they can rule over the pleb with their money.

Show me one actual system were people govern themselves. Strawman tbh.

Self government would mean 24/7 revocable mandates, direct democracy, no corporate media or influences, no worker extortion, democratic economy. This would be internally much more stable. People learn quickly through trial and error, once they actually have the power and transparency.

Yes, self-governance doesn't work. AC is an impractical ideal for the same reasons that humans shouldn't have too much power.

Then the "strong" people in power start abusing their powers, resulting in loss of both security and freedom for the people.

Yes, true. Corruptibility is perhaps the biggest problem of the human condition.
No matter what, both freedom and order suck for incels. We always lose and Chad always wins

In a "free" society, chad benefits because people willingly want to associate/collaborate with him and this gives him power, influence and wealth. Since people are free to not co-operate with incels, they slide down the social (and therefore wealth/power) ladder.

In an "ordered" society, chad benefits because who else would have the privilege to become the leader at the top pulling the strings and maintaining the order? Definitely not some incel rando who won't win favour with anybody.

High IQ.

Technology, civilization, prosperity. Doesn't matter how we dress up nature, some things are a constant. Chad always winning is one of them.

For when they shall say, peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes upon them…

This was the case with every civilization so far. Western Hampshire will be no different. Both freedom and security can suck my balls. Accept the natural order which is chaos and let things play out.

Low IQ.

The natural order is for chad to slit your throat and fuck the women in your family while your last moments of consciousness are bleeding on the floor helplessly watching them get raped.

You want to know how the natural order plays out? Look no further than Africa with its numerous lawless regions and how they eat other alive, sometimes literally.
 
People SHOULD be allowed to kill themselves actually
 
Low IQ.

The natural order is for chad to slit your throat and fuck the women in your family while your last moments of consciousness are bleeding on the floor helplessly watching them get raped.

You want to know how the natural order plays out? Look no further than Africa with its numerous lawless regions and how they eat other alive, sometimes literally.
Kill or be killed .that's how it should be. I've no allegiance to anyone but myself so I really don't care what happens if I die. I'd rather take my 50/50 chance in chaotictribal societies than to live in any modern day peacefully secure society where all the odds favor lookism.

Yet those savages have a more fulfilling life than your average wage cuck slave ever will have. I'll take my chances.
 
People who sacrifice freedom for security are the lowest life forms on this planet.

Parasites have more dignity than these vermin.
High iq, that's why I hate cop worshiping cucks.
 
He is right, which is why I cringe when mutts and stormcucks reee about Islam "taking muh freedomz away". Humans are retarded when they're given too much freedom

"Too much freedom"? Lol. What does it even mean to have "too much freedom"?

You know you're way off base when foids and soyboys overwhelmingly agree with you.
When a soyfag refers to "order", he means depriving incels of their civil liberties.
People who sacrifice freedom for security are the lowest life forms on this planet.

Parasites have more dignity than these vermin.
 
"Too much freedom"? Lol. What does it even mean to have "too much freedom"?

You know you're way off base when foids and soyboys overwhelmingly agree with you.
Too much freedom = Sexual freedom, abortions, the whole "it doesn't affect you" mentality, easy divorce, breaking families on a whim, pre-martial sex, all of which is made easier and promoted by the culture, be it through music or party cultrue
 
The problem with that statement is that it never specified what "order" meant.

When a soyfag refers to "order", he means depriving incels of their civil liberties.
They wouldn't want to give whores the same punishments for crimes as they do for incels. If an incel fucked a 14 year old they'd want him dead or in jail forever, but if a rostie fucked a 14 year old chad they'll say "it was consensual, and the boy most likely manipulated her". All cucked laws must be removed, and all faggot whiteknight cops must be removed, and all taxes that contribute to gynocentrism or enforcing gynocentric laws must be cut.
 
Too much freedom = Sexual freedom, abortions, the whole "it doesn't affect you" mentality, easy divorce, breaking families on a whim, pre-martial sex, all of which is made easier and promoted by the culture, be it through music or party cultrue

Yes, this is a cultural side effect of "too much freedom", and is an example of the chaos I was talking about.
 
Too much freedom = Sexual freedom, abortions, the whole "it doesn't affect you" mentality, easy divorce, breaking families on a whim, pre-martial sex, all of which is made easier and promoted by the culture, be it through music or party cultrue

Creating and enforcing laws to prevent these behaviors costs staggeringly more $$$ than just eliminating the current laws that encourage them.
 
"Of course I don't support it, I'm not some autist who prefers freedom over order. Should people be free to kill themselves on opiates? Should women be free to whore around and not have kids and destroy their societies? Humanity has shown constantly it cannot be allowed to govern itself and needs a strong hand to keep it strangled and in place."
And this is not just about what he said about women.

There seems to be a false dichotomy here. The statement assumes that structures would not spring up to handle these situations if there wasn't a government to forcibly prevent them. For instance, simply social/cultural/religious pressures have historically worked very well at reducing the incidence of the two examples given, government doesn't enter anywhere in that picture. There can be private charities set up that cater to helping those dealing with opioid addictions.

On the other hand, government interference has only exacerbated (or even directly caused) these issues, not reduced them (at least in the US). I don't think the government-led War on Drugs movement has really helped the drug problem. Women "whoring around" is in large part due to the government transferring money on a mass scale from male workers to female single mothers. If women know that they can get resources for free anytime they want, there is no incentive to lock down a stable male provider and remain loyal. Women "not having kids" mainly affects higher IQ women, and is again in a large part due to the welfare system transferring money from high IQ to low IQ people. Combine that with government sanctioned mass immigration, leading to skyrocketing housing prices, as well as the wage stagnation (which government plays a large role in), and having kids has become much less enticing for both men and women over the last few decades.

I'm not against order, but there are ways to get that without a government, and I think it would work far better.

Edit: Also, women only have the ability to "destroy their societies" because there is a system in place (government) that allows them to vote for/enact destructive policies that coercively affect everyone.
 
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I would only agree with that statement if we weren't forced to pay taxes to single mothers (and abortion clinics) to let them whore around while we rot, same thing for people who are druggies. I believe in some form of welfare or government assistance for people who don't have the means to willingly work, but women who are intentionally whoring and can live off the government despite being able to work (or are broke because of choices THEY made) don't deserve a single fucking penny.
 

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