1st paragraph- https://incels.wiki/w/Truecel
— I’m both very ugly (yuck ugly) and exhibit all the characteristics in bold. And I’m 26. Oh and short. And of course KHHV
1st paragraph- https://incels.wiki/w/Truecel
— I’m both very ugly (yuck ugly) and exhibit all the characteristics in bold. And I’m 26. Oh and short. And of course KHHV
I am also ugly, short, KHHV, and also exhibit all of the bold characteristics PLUS more.
And while I do agree, I also think that looks determine how you are treated/how you develop.
So for example even if Chad was born as neurodivergent (which is less likley due to high-quality genetics), he and everyone else would hardly know because due to his looks he was treated well. The other characteristics such as anxiety, lack of skills, introverted, odd, inhibited, shy, autistic behavior, etc would be very hard to see or even virtually nonexistent due to his looks. When his entire life is filled with positive reinforcement it negates almost all of these bad effects. It is like a positive snowball effect.
Meanwhile if you are an ugly truecel born with neurodivergence (which is more likely due to shit genetics), the opposite snowball effect happens. You are born ugly, therefore treated like a piece of shit, and have a life filled with negative reinforcement. So all the negative effects of your neurodivergence like the ones listed above are heavily amplified and exaggerated. They become present in your personality and impossible to reverse or remove. Therefore it is also a snowball effect but a negative one.
And while I do agree, I also think that looks determine how you are treated/how you develop.
So for example even if Chad was born as neurodivergent (which is less likley due to high-quality genetics), he and everyone else would hardly know because due to his looks he was treated well. The other characteristics such as anxiety, lack of skills, introverted, odd, inhibited, shy, autistic behavior, etc would be very hard to see or even virtually nonexistent due to his looks. When his entire life is filled with positive reinforcement it negates almost all of these bad effects. It is like a positive snowball effect.
Meanwhile if you are an ugly truecel born with neurodivergence (which is more likely due to shit genetics), the opposite snowball effect happens. You are born ugly, therefore treated like a piece of shit, and have a life filled with negative reinforcement. So all the negative effects of your neurodivergence like the ones listed above are heavily amplified and exaggerated. They become present in your personality and impossible to reverse or remove. Therefore it is also a snowball effect but a negative one.
This is SPOT ON bro. Very based response. The snowball effect, is the only answer needed for my question, expect that foids want chads, the 6+/10 anyways. Goes without saying
Let’s hope you and I can one day ascend. Somehow, somewhere
(even if you probably have the much greater chance I could imagine)
ND demotes chads to normies and normies to incels.
Maybe. If something is certain its that women hate guys who are ugly and guys who have social anxiety
NT & attractive = hookups with becky & stacy, LTR is unnecessary
NT & average = hookups with landwhales & LTR with becky
NT & unattractive = no hookups & LTR with landwhales
non-NT & attractive = hookups with becky
non-NT & average = incel
non-NT & unattractive = incel
NT & average = hookups with landwhales & LTR with becky
NT & unattractive = no hookups & LTR with landwhales
non-NT & attractive = hookups with becky
non-NT & average = incel
non-NT & unattractive = incel
No it doesn't, the halo effect and foid's obsession with attractiveness means Chad stays at the very least at Chadlite level; "NT" isn't some immutable characteristic foids can always see, you can masquerade yourself as NT enough if you have exposure to social interaction and try.
Yes. Most autists are incels
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Yes lack of cultural marriage norms that were enforced, is a factor in the cause of incels
Being introverted in the extreme, high inhib, etc. also can come with childhood trauma, which can come with a family with alcoholism, poverty, backwardness, etc. that can coincide with suboptimal genetic dice rolls. The factors are somewhat interrelated.
Huh. I’m both, also autistic, I’m not funny, short, can’t interact with people… damn, I’m really at the bottom of the league, and it’s a low-tier league
Most men look average, and I myself would say I'm above average for an iraqi, but my giga autism really holds me back not just from romantic relationships, but ANY relationship, be it familial or friend.
NTpill is real
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No. I strongly disagree. Because I've seen myself a chad who is odd, introverted, shy, highly inhibited, anxious and autistic and despite that, everywhere he went he was liked by all the foids. Somehow even with such extreme amounts of social acceptance he managed to be autistic as shit and even then foids looked right pass it and didn't care and started talking to him. The discrimination was absolutely brutal.
Strongly agree. NT is the first thing about human relationships.
dude, there are always exceptions to the rule. That's why it's called a "rule" -- otherwise it would be a "definition".
Of the guys you see on the streets with girlfriends, how many are autistic? It's much less than the ones who are short and/or ugly.
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ok good point there
Depends how autistic tbh
i have all the traits, but i'm average looking and 6ft.
had my first kiss at 23 but still a virgin
Yeah, good for you bro, really
Count yourself lucky. I’m 26, KHHV, and not even a 1 out of 10 would kiss me (not that I want anything below a 5, sorry, I have my standards), I look so weird and people can be so mean (strangers laugh about me, talk about me or stare/point at me,ever since I was 13).
thanks i simply got lucky that i happened to come in contact with a pretty girl who happened to be somewhat of a slut and had lots of issues, luck that probably won't happen again but fuck it. I wonder if what made her lose interest was me telling her i didnt have much experience with girls (i lied and said i had only 2 relationships in the past when i was a khhv too before her), maybe lying until i made it could have worked...Yeah, good for you bro, really
lookism is really fucked,especially for things like male height where people have no issue making jokes about it to your face, i'm not violent but i'd probably snap if that was me
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Only a matter of time until we put to sleep like stray dogs.
Between you and me, these people are lucky certain laws exist. I don’t wanna go to jail. Although, I already feel like I’m in jail, bc I’m not free, I don’t actually know what happiness or joy feels like, all I want is love but I will never get it. Like a man sentenced for life in solitary confinement might never see the stars in the sky again
And thanks for understanding me. I really have a strange head and face and most strangers react negatively in some way, some only a bit, some by a lot, but every time someone sees me they laugh, or most of the time just point, stare and say something about me
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Lol of course not.
How fucking retarded does someone has to be to believe that kek.
Behavior can be faked much more easily than looks, which is why it is rarely an "honest signal" of genetic fitness that foids evolved to be attracted to and recognize. Females are not the only one who engage in "fake advertisement", males do that too.
Bc less fortunate males try to fake up their genetic fitness to get sex, in order to not get fooled foids evolved to select for things that are harder to fake for example being two meters tall or owning a Lamborghini. Its an on going gradual process.
How fucking retarded does someone has to be to believe that kek.
Behavior can be faked much more easily than looks, which is why it is rarely an "honest signal" of genetic fitness that foids evolved to be attracted to and recognize. Females are not the only one who engage in "fake advertisement", males do that too.
Bc less fortunate males try to fake up their genetic fitness to get sex, in order to not get fooled foids evolved to select for things that are harder to fake for example being two meters tall or owning a Lamborghini. Its an on going gradual process.
I agree with you. That's why I asked the question. I thought more people would disagree with the quote
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ND is some borderline blue pill bullshit by failed normies.
Outside of MEDICAL diagnosis made by a certified physician, being NT or not is determined by your looks (face, height, frame). If you look good you are treated in a such way that you develop to become extroverted, social, low inhib etc. If you are ugly well...
Outside of MEDICAL diagnosis made by a certified physician, being NT or not is determined by your looks (face, height, frame). If you look good you are treated in a such way that you develop to become extroverted, social, low inhib etc. If you are ugly well...
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Yes, yes of course and I wasnt insulting you.
Its good that you made this heresy more public.
shit like this on an incelwiki... who put that on there? We are supposed to be the enlightened ones!
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Absolutely perfect answer mate. I'm a 1/10 (literally, my head is so extremely strange bc of a disability I have; it's huge and my face is very narrow and deformed/feminine jaw plus no cheekbones, extremely asymmetric eyes, I look scary). I've always been treated like shit. I'm 26 now, KHHV. Ever since I was 13, strangers either stare at me, talk/whisper about me ("looks like a monster", "ugliest person I've ever seen", and so on), laugh about me, etc. In high school they made memes with my school picture. Everyone does it, aged 8 to 88. They'd never make fun of gays or non-whites but hideous people like me? Sure, no problem. I'll tell you something: these people are so lucky laws exist...
i'd become 100% insane in jail, might be the adhd or the autism talking but staying in a cell for years sounds worse than death to me, i know these days you can pass time studying to get a degree while jailed and also workout 24/7 but it's still hell on earth, not worth it unless it's life or death situation
No no, sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't think you were insulting me. I was just sayin'
Exactly, I also thought the same as you're saying in your last sentence.
I'd even prefer solitary over general population, you know there are men in jail who "want you", now gen-pop would be hell, solitary too, but only the second worst
many don't realize that good indicator how much non NT you are is how much you were perceived, seen by others
i'm average by looks probably, but i'm to say it least i'm very non NT and while short and ugly men have it very tough when it comes to dating or ltr have friends and relative normal social life
@Mecoja
Yeah, I do.
Everything matters because Chads are rare and most Men are in normie range. Imo looks and money comes first.
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I don't. Yeah, being NT is very important, but not as important as being good looking. Autistic Chad still slays, NT uggo doesn't.
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If you are giga autistic with some other deficiencies too, sure.
But things like being "nice" or "friendly" can be faked very easily.
Those dont say anything about your genetic fitness, bc virtually every man can give a hoe a compliment or carry her shopping bag.
But acting like being a bit autistic is a be all and all is major cope. "If only I wasnt autistic
" No, its mainly bc of your bad physiology, low status and/ or not enough ressources combined with a degenerate misandrist society. If that wasnt the case you are fakecel/ volcel.And as someone who might have ocd/ autistic tendencies (and 100% a mild form of tourette) myself, I still think you can regulate your own behaviour a bit, by thinking what a "normal" person would do in a situation and try to do that. Its called self-awareness.
But "NT"-incel doesnt slay either. Also I believe that the experiences some of the members on here had/have led to faulted brainwiring, no social skills etc. Obviously there is a genetic component to everything, but often times autism and similar things are not the cause of inceldom, but its consequence.
nature decides how you are nurtured
NT is life.
More important than looks? Absolutely not chad can be a drooling retard and women will lust after him. Course if you are anything less than chadlite serious mental issues are a death sentance. Minor ones are for anyone less than high tier normie.
Fakecel out
Kys fakecel
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