Discussion Do the people here think escortcelling is cucked?

[Sheogorath]

somehow paying money to get surgery to attract foids "for free" is somehow not cucked
when it's just escorting with extra steps

The major difference is who you are paying. Surgery doesn't go to fund the foids themselves unless the surgeon is sending it to some foid's GoFundMe.

You could say it's cucked to give money to other men who will use it to support their familes, but then I guess it's cucked to support any business?

 

[radishman]

The major difference is who you are paying. Surgery doesn't go to fund the foids themselves unless the surgeon is sending it to some foid's GoFundMe.

You could say it's cucked to give money to other men who will use it to support their familes, but then I guess it's cucked to support any business?

Whether you give them cash or do what you can to transform yourself into what appeals to them (chad) you're giving them what they want. Incels that are trying to max what they can are not doing it for their own reasons with foid attraction being an added benefit, it is the sole purpose. I understand the logic though. Being attractive improves your life in a lot more ways than just getting your dick wet. And if you can reach that level of attracting even a 5 on the regular it will more than pay for itself unlike escorting, but you have just as much odds of nothing changing at all. Escorting is a sure thing. Besides I don't know how you can understand female nature all this time and still desire a relationship with them. Pump and dump, yes, but never a commitment.

I don't escortcel anymore myself. I'm dollmaxxed now and I doubt I'll go back so I don't really have a fight in the cuck or not debate we have daily, but I just hate the idea that lonely men are cucks for buying sex. There's plenty of words to describe them, but not that.

 

[Sheogorath]

Whether you give them cash or do what you can to transform yourself into what appeals to them (chad) you're giving them what they want.

The idea of a foid being satisfied and getting something she wants doesn't repel me.

I think it's less cucked to invest in a resource you can use on any foid rather than pay them as you go. Investing vs renting.

I understand the logic though. Being attractive improves your life in a lot more ways than just getting your dick wet.

Exactly.

 

[Deleted member 17749]

Yes it is cucked.

You're giving holes money for what chad gets for free.

 

[Incel_Because_Short]

I want to say it's not cucked, but I get angry at how rich these escorts actually get, and they only get that rich off the labour of unattractive men.

 

[Saint Lives MattER]

I rent foids, if they're for rent, I'm not going to pass. Better than losing half your house 10 years down the line.

 

[Deleted member 2686]

No. As long as you are directly exchanging money for sex it’s not cucked.
It is cucked when you donate to gamer girls, twitch thots, camwhores etc. you are getting nothing in return.

This

Escortcelling is not fucked because it is a direct monetary transaction(similar to buying food or clothes)

Donating to camgirls and other foids who don't give u sex in return is CUCKED because you aren't getting sex

 

[radishman]

I rent foids, if they're for rent, I'm not going to pass. Better than losing half your house 10 years down the line.

If it floats, flies or fucks it's better to rent.

Now obviously getting it for free is the better deal, but unless you're larping it ain't gonna happen to anyone here.

 

[BlkPillPres]

yes escortcelling is cucked I'd rather remain a virgin my whole life than give power to women

Good job bro. You totally showed those foids.

You have to understand that there are a lot of illogical idiots on this forum, they apply this mindset to everything, a lot of them literally think they are "getting back at society" by keeping themselves poor and depriving themselves the possibility to be wealthy

"I'm not going to let society cuck me, I won't let one extra dollar go towards tax contributions, I'll just LDAR all day and complain about how shitty my life is, that'll show em"

 

[Pennywise]

Chads are living in parallel universe while all of us could be betas at best.

People here are sad about missed milestones.. I missed out on my entire life

 

[toyotacel]

its not cucked because you're getting something in return, it would be cucked if you simply gave her money and got shit in return.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Yes it is cucked.

You're giving holes money for what chad gets for free.

So 99% of men on the planet are cucked then, because there's really no difference between dating, marriage or prostitution, they are all systems that function on a "prostitution model", men pay women for sex and companionship, that's always been the norm, if the norm is cucked, THEN THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE TERM "CUCKED", IT HAS NO MEANING ANYMORE

 

[MountainGorilla]

You have to understand that there are a lot of illogical idiots on this forum, they apply this mindset to everything, a lot of them literally think they are "getting back at society" by keeping themselves poor and depriving themselves the possibility to be wealthy

"I'm not going to let society cuck me, I won't let one extra dollar go towards tax contributions, I'll just LDAR all day and complain about how shitty my life is, that'll show em"

possibility of being wealthy > escortcelling

 

[BlkPillPres]

possibility of being wealthy > escortcelling

Ironically one can only escortcel well if they are wealthy, nobody is saying spend your last dime and be broke to get sex, in fact I'd advise if you are broke paying for sex is the last thing you should do

But a lot of you guys don't get it, you could literally die tomorrow not knowing what sex is like, all this "I'd rather die a virgin" nonsense is nothing but foolish pride, and if you wake up in a hospital bed tomorrow on the verge of death you'll realize how much you were kidding yourself

You guys are playing this game like you have extra lives, life is a game, but it isn't a well designed one, there are no saves, there are no extra lives, and no, we aren't even the protagonists

 

[JestER]

Escortcelling has always been cucked and also proves you aren't that ugly to begin with, hence the fakecel status

 

[BlkPillPres]

Escortcelling has always been cucked and also proves you aren't that ugly to begin with, hence the fakecel status

Translation: "Only 3/10's are incels"

End result:
"Wait wait wait, only only 3/10's that are physical disabled are incels"

"Nuh uh, only 3/10's that are physically and mentally disabled are incels"

"You guys have it so easy, fakecels, only 3/10's that are physically and mentally disabled, ontop of too short to get on amusement park rides are incels"

Etc, etc, etc

If one has to be legit so ugly that a prostitute would never fuck them to qualify as incel, that likely even you aren't incel and you are just kidding yourself, and your argument ironically excludes you from being incel depending on how far we take the argument to its logical conclusion, because why stop at - "prostitutes won't fuck me for money"

 

[Llama]

Yes. You are normalizing giving foids money for sex, then they call it sex work, then its a normal professional. You are just forwarding degeneracy

 

[Robtical]

Betabuxxing is cucked, paying money to femoids who are not prostotutes

High iq. The real cucks are the betabuxxers, especially doing it for 20+ year old rosties. At least escortcels get guaranteed sex with foids they're attracted to.

Jfl if you rather rope or become a betabux instead of an escortcel. By roping and betabuxxing you're benefiting holes way more than paying a single prostitute. Plus, you should always bargain them down to lower their self esteem.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Yes. You are normalizing giving foids money for sex, then they call it sex work, then its a normal professional. You are just forwarding degeneracy

1. You can't "forward" the "worlds oldest profession" in history, its literally known as that

2. Why not apply that logic to everything else, stop taking part in the convenience of grocery stores and fast food chains, go hunt, fish and gather for your meals or do without

You are just normalizing capitalists doing nothing but "owning" establishments and then they call that their "career" or their "job", when unlike a prostitute they quite literally do nothing and get paid millions, are you going to stop contributing to this? (I doubt it)

You guys just selectively apply your logic, and that's because you have your pride rooted in sex but you think nothing about food, go back a few thousand years, men put way more pride in their ability to hunt and keep their family and village fed, but since we have the convenience of grocery stores, none of that shit matters anymore

Its the same with the convenience of whores, you don't have to "woo" anybody to stick your dick in their holes and then be on your way

You guys need to stop being so egotistical, its a very ironic mindset for an incel


Its funny how you don't see you helping make someone a millionaire (something that is relatively new to human history) as cucked

But helping a whore become make a few ten's of thousands (of which you are a fraction) and her actually fucking you is cucked

 

[Robtical]

Yes. You are normalizing giving foids money for sex, then they call it sex work, then its a normal professional. You are just forwarding degeneracy

The consequences of not fucking them are far greater than slightly contributing to degeneracy. Betabuxxing and paying cam whores is a million times more degenerate.

its not cucked because you're getting something in return, it would be cucked if you simply gave her money and got shit in return.

Like cam whore cucks. Porn is free.

2. Why not apply that logic to everything else, stop taking part in the convenience of grocery stores and fast food chains, go hunt, fish and gather for your meals or do without

High iq. We should also stop working and paying taxes, because that contributes to rostie degeneracy too.

 

[Rambocel]

It's utterly cucked and I'd never do it. A filthy whore getting paid to be a filthy whore is bullshit. This does not happen the other way around. Male whores would have to tera-Chad just to get any decent income. Paying women for their bodies just validates them as somehow more worthy than you. Disease infested trashy whores deserve to be thrown to the curb. Paying them gives them power, confidence, and control. You don't really get a product. You get a used-up piece of entitled trash..

 

[BlkPillPres]

Paying women for their bodies just validates them as somehow more worthy than you

There bodies are worth more than a man's, don't you understand something as simple as supply and demand, you might as well say:
"Paying more fore diamonds just validates them as somehow worth more than copper"

Everything about a woman's body is rarer than a man's

Men produce millions of sperm and they can get a woman pregnant even in their 90's (in some cases), the male libido is very high, meaning sex is more likely to take place if initiated

Women start becoming infertile in their 30's and don't produce very many eggs at all, the female libido is lower, so sex is less likely to take place if initiated

One man can impregnate many women, but if you have a bunch of men and one woman, she can only produce one child per man per year

Rarity = Worth More

Its funny how you guys are all about accepting "black pills" but you deny the obvious ones, women as a product/object are worth more than men, always have been, always will be

Paying them gives them power, confidence, and control

Yeah, that's totally the vibe I was getting with my cock down that whores throat, I could just feel the confidence and power welling up in her eyes, tbh I felt really inferior and cucked after that (so many retards on this site man)

 

[NEETard]

Yeah, that's totally the vibe I was getting with my cock down that whores throat, I could just feel the confidence and power welling up in her eyes, tbh I felt really inferior and cucked after that (so many retards on this site man)

You are so delusional to write something like this. You are proud of getting your dick sucked by a girl you paid 100s of $$$. Stop trying to normalise cuckoldry.

And dont try tell me "all relationships are betabux" because i know youre a coping retard. When you 'betabux' a girl, she is YOUR girlfriend. She is exclusive to you and doesnt fuck other men (unless she cheats obviously). When you fuck a prostitute youre paying some random girl to exist for a couple hours. Then she goes on to fuck another guy and another. Forgetting about you, the guy who gave her 100s of $$$ for existing. And youre going to tell me donating to twitch streamers is cucked but you arent. Jfl at you

 

[Robtical]

Its funny how you guys are all about accepting "black pills" but you deny the obvious ones, women as a product/object are worth more than men, always have been, always will be

Sexbots and artificial wombs will replace the sub6 foids soon.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You are so delusional to write something like this. You are proud of getting your dick sucked by a girl you paid 100s of $$$. Stop trying to normalise cuckoldry

Not proud, satisfied, only retards like yourself are obsessed with pride and living up to some standard of "honor", you are ironically projecting right now, the only one concerned with pride right now is you

When you fuck a prostitute youre paying some random girl to exist for a couple hours

Tell yourself whatever you need to sleep at night JFL, this sentence reads like something a mentally challenged child would type up, she's "just existing for a couple of hours", seriously, look at the mental gymnastics and word games you have to string together to even try to argue your position, your response sounds like some kind of tautological experiment related to quantum mechanics

"She's just existing for a couple of hours bro?"

When I go to a bakery, is the baker "just existing"?

If you go to a store the cashier who gets paid based on your purchases exerts less physical effort than a whore you'll fuck, so are they being paid to "exist for a couple of hours"?

You guys just selectively apply your logic, and that's because you have your pride rooted in sex but you think nothing about food, go back a few thousand years, men put way more pride in their ability to hunt and keep their family and village fed, but since we have the convenience of grocery stores, none of that shit matters anymore

Its the same with the convenience of whores, you don't have to "woo" anybody to stick your dick in their holes and then be on your way

You guys need to stop being so egotistical, its a very ironic mindset for an incel


Its funny how you don't see you helping make someone a millionaire (something that is relatively new to human history) as cucked


But helping a whore become make a few ten's of thousands (of which you are a fraction) and her actually fucking you is cucked

soon

Century =/= Soon

 

[Robtical]

And dont try tell me "all relationships are betabux" because i know youre a coping retard. When you 'betabux' a girl, she is YOUR girlfriend. She is exclusive to you and doesnt fuck other men (unless she cheats obviously). When you fuck a prostitute youre paying some random girl to exist for a couple hours. Then she goes on to fuck another guy and another. Forgetting about you, the guy who gave her 100s of $$$ for existing. And youre going to tell me donating to twitch streamers is cucked but you arent. Jfl at you

In these cucked times 99% of non-chad betabuxxers get cheated on or consistently denied sex. In those cases escortceling is way better, until you can find a young non-rostie wife who will be faithful and give you unlimited sex just for betabuxxing.

 

[NEETard]

Tell yourself whatever you need to sleep at night JFL, this sentence reads like something a mentally challenged child would type up, she's "just existing for a couple of hours", seriously, look at the mental gymnastics and word games you have to string together to even try to argue your position, your response sounds like some kind of tautological experiment related to quantum mechanics

"She's just existing for a couple of hours bro?"

When I go to a bakery, is the baker "just existing"?

If you go to a store the cashier who gets paid based on your purchases exerts less physical effort than a whore you'll fuck, so are they being paid to "exist for a couple of hours"?

You are coping extremely hard or just brainwashed. You dont like when I say "youre paying a girl to exist", but thats what youre doing. She could give you the best sex ever but at the end you just paid her to exist.

Im wrong and these prostitutes are actually working for your money? Well pay a man to suck your dick. Id pay a man to do any job so i dont see the problem if youre paying for the service. You'll probably say "im not gay so i wouldnt pay a man" and thats where youre a cuck. You pay a woman for being a woman.

Prostitution is female dominated industry and as a cuck you are supporting that industry.

In these cucked times 99% of non-chad betabuxxers get cheated on or consistently denied sex. In those cases escortceling is way better, until you can find a young non-rostie wife who will be faithful and give you unlimited sex just for betabuxxing.

99% of relationships have the male getting no sex? Please show me some proof of this besides your own delusional coping bullshit other copers here have reinfornced into your brain. There is no reason to argue with a retard like you who thinks 99% of men IN RELATIONSHIPS arent getting sex. Jfl. You are that stupid.

 

[Robtical]

99% of relationships have the male getting no sex? Please show me some proof of this besides your own delusional coping bullshit other copers here have reinfornced into your brain. There is no reason to argue with a retard like you who thinks 99% of men IN RELATIONSHIPS arent getting sex. Jfl. You are that stupid.

Betabuxxers who get starfish sex once a month from a rostie who cheats on them with chads every week on "girl's night out" might as well mean they're not getting any sex. Jfl at retards like you who think there's still a good chance to betabux your looksmatch as a non-chad, and not get cheated on or constantly denied sex.

 

[NEETard]

Betabuxxers who get starfish sex once a month from a rostie who cheats on them with chads every week on "girl's night out" might as well mean they're not getting any sex. Jfl at retards like you who think there's still a good chance to betabux your looksmatch as a non-chad, and not get cheated on or constantly denied sex.

Keep telling yourself being incel is normal to make yourself feel better about being an ugly virgin loser

 

[Robtical]

Keep telling yourself being incel is normal to make yourself feel better about being an ugly virgin loser

As a non-chad, being an escortcel is better than being a betabuxxer who gets cucked 99% of the time.

 

[DepressionTookMyIQ]

I think escortcelling is based. It is betabuxxing without the bullshit. And it also gives my life a meaning, very nice.

Based greycel, don't mind the haters.

 

[Rambocel]

There bodies are worth more than a man's, don't you understand something as simple as supply and demand, you might as well say:
"Paying more fore diamonds just validates them as somehow worth more than copper"

Everything about a woman's body is rarer than a man's

Men produce millions of sperm and they can get a woman pregnant even in their 90's (in some cases), the male libido is very high, meaning sex is more likely to take place if initiated

Women start becoming infertile in their 30's and don't produce very many eggs at all, the female libido is lower, so sex is less likely to take place if initiated

One man can impregnate many women, but if you have a bunch of men and one woman, she can only produce one child per man per year

Rarity = Worth More

Its funny how you guys are all about accepting "black pills" but you deny the obvious ones, women as a product/object are worth more than men, always have been, always will be



Yeah, that's totally the vibe I was getting with my cock down that whores throat, I could just feel the confidence and power welling up in her eyes, tbh I felt really inferior and cucked after that (so many retards on this site man)

Diamonds are objectively worthless. Copper is the backbone of many elements of society.

Men's reproductive material is exponentially more potent than a female but that doesn't matter when you're talking about an autonomous being. In nature there isn't really much of a difference. Women can only have so many kids, men can only afford to father so many kids. And pregnancy doesn't happen right away a lot of times. Some people have to try for years to get it to work. It's the acts of sex that count in quality over the quantity of sperm a man can make.

You're mistaken on female libido. The human female is regarded as the most sexual being on this planet and just like a lot of foidery, society doesn't acknowledge it and it's regularly just thrown out there than men are most sexual. Men are made to make the advances but foids can be the true whores. They can have sex literally indefinitely in one go (if they dry out they can use lube) where as sex for men is actual work. You can't just keep blowing loads without some recovery time.

There is also estimated to be slightly more women in the world. Not that it really matters because this is not how breeding works at all now. There is no dominate man who impregnates a whole tribe of women who stay faithful to him. Bastard, hoodrat kids happen yes but rarely is this guy going to be in any position of authority. He's going to be running from the law for child support after just a few.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

He is fucking retarded. I guess he will never have sex then. I swear incels on this site have no logic. You watch porn and dont say thats cucked when you’re literally watching chad fuck a girl, but its cucked to actually directly pay for sex jfl at this forums logic

this forum is full of ugly men. ugliness correlates with stupidity. It's no wonder people on this site like OP are so retarded

 

[NEETard]

As a non-chad, being an escortcel is better than being a betabuxxer who gets cucked 99% of the time.

Where is your proof on this 99% of the time bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating what other retards here told you?

 

[Robtical]

Where is your proof on this 99% of the time bullshit? Or are you just regurgitating what other retards here told you?

It's from my own observations. Almost every non-chad betabuxxer I see is getting cucked or denied sex, unless he's very rich or with a foid way below his looksmatch.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You dont like when I say "youre paying a girl to exist"

I don't care if you say that, my point is that the sentence doesn't even make sense, what the hell do you even mean by the sentence, it literally makes no sense, are you arguing that "having sex" is "existing" to women?

She could give you the best sex ever but at the end you just paid her to exist

Do you see the irony in saying this after telling me I'm the prideful one, like I said before, you are projecting, why is your ego staked so strongly in your ability to attract women?

"You could get the best meal ever at a restaurant but at the end of the day, you paid someone to do what they do for family members for free"

YES, I don't get your point idiot, you retards selectively apply this logic, if you applied it to other aspects of life - clothing, housing, food, etc, it immediately becomes clear how ridiculous the argument is

Im wrong and these prostitutes are actually working for your money? Well pay a man to suck your dick. Id pay a man to do any job so i dont see the problem if youre paying for the service. You'll probably say "im not gay so i wouldnt pay a man" and thats where youre a cuck.

I'm done on that one, I can't even take you seriously after that, you just seem like a troll at this point

 

[Deleted member 19971]

Prostitution fuels further degeneracy and makes life even easier for females, especially with the rise of the internet they can sell their bodies to more clients.

Not to mention women don't even need to become prostitutes anymore, just go on OnlyFans and sell erotic clothed pictures and you'll be earning thousands.

 

[Deleted member 4999]

this forum is full of ugly men. ugliness correlates with stupidity. It's no wonder people on this site like OP are so retarded

Why do you have that German troll posters profile picture

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Why do you have that German troll posters profile picture

for the lulz

 

[BlkPillPres]

Prostitution fuels further degeneracy and makes life even easier for females, especially with the rise of the internet they can sell their bodies to more clients

Paying women to actually fuck you =/= Paying women to send you "raunchy pics"

Its like comparing going to a restaurant to be served food to eat, and purchasing the food network tv channel

Not to mention women don't even need to become prostitutes anymore, just go on OnlyFans and sell erotic clothed pictures and you'll be earning thousands.

So now your argument makes even less sense, you are all over the place, of what relevance is this to men who pay women to actually fuck them, it literally has nothing to do with the argument

 

[NEETard]

I'm done on that one, I can't even take you seriously after that, you just seem like a troll at this point

Did you really just call me a troll because you couldnt refute my point?

Now I know youre not brainwashed and are just in denial. You know youre a cuck. Ive proven you to being a cuck. You dont want to admit youre a cuck, so you just change what cuck means.

Its funny how you are supposedly the 'high iq' user on this forum but when backed into a corner resort to denial and coping.

 

[Deleted member 19971]

Paying women to actually fuck you =/= Paying women to send you "raunchy pics"

When I said "especially with the rise of the internet they can sell their bodies to more clients." I meant the prostitution websites, not websites like OnlyFans.

Back in the day women had to stand at the side of the street, now they can just sign up to prostitution websites.

So now your argument makes even less sense, you are all over the place, of what relevance is this to men who pay women to actually fuck them, it literally has nothing to do with the argument

I just threw that in there as an extra blackpill.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Women can only have so many kids, men can only afford to father so many kids

Your argument doesn't make any sense, in nature there is not "fathering", there's no police to force you to pay child support, you are making a naturalistic argument within the context of civilization, at that point it doesn't make sense

In the "real world" (outside of men with guns forcing you to "follow laws"), a man could go from community to community impregnating random women and then leave to a new one, that pregnant woman under normal circumstances will carry that pregnancy to term (9 months of time lost)

And pregnancy doesn't happen right away a lot of times. Some people have to try for years to get it to work.

The exception to the rule doesn't disprove the rule

It's the acts of sex that count in quality over the quantity of sperm a man can make

Most men are fertile enough to get a woman pregnant, its not rocket science

You're mistaken on female libido. The human female is regarded as the most sexual being on this planet and just like a lot of foidery, society doesn't acknowledge it and it's regularly just thrown out there than men are most sexual. Men are made to make the advances but foids can be the true whores. They can have sex literally indefinitely in one go (if they dry out they can use lube) where as sex for men is actual work. You can't just keep blowing loads without some recovery time

The ability to last longer and have more sex is not the same thing as having a greater desire to have sex, you are falsely conflating these concepts

Its like you're arguing that a marathon runner loves running more than a 100m sprinter because they "run longer", duration has nothing to do with desire, its a scientific fact that women's libidos are lower than men's, its related to testosterone

Heck there's a known phenomenon coined as "Lesbian bed death" (look it up), women lose interest in sex as they get older, their libidos are low to begin with and they get lower with age

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Im wrong and these prostitutes are actually working for your money? Well pay a man to suck your dick. Id pay a man to do any job so i dont see the problem if youre paying for the service. You'll probably say "im not gay so i wouldnt pay a man" and thats where youre a cuck. You pay a woman for being a woman.

unironically reported

 

[NEETard]

unironically reported

Nowhere does that comment break the rules

 

[BlkPillPres]

Did you really just call me a troll because you couldnt refute my point?

pay a man to suck your dick. Id pay a man to do any job so i dont see the problem if youre paying for the service. You'll probably say "im not gay so i wouldnt pay a man" and thats where youre a cuck. You pay a woman for being a woman

My wealthmaxxing is progressing really well right now and I'll probably be finished by next year, and the closer I get to my goal, the less I feel like tolerating trolls and larps on this site, you may think this shit is funny but it really isn't, and I'm tired of all of you guys

Anybody who paints themselves to be an obvious troll and becomes irritating will just be blocked at this point in my life

Saying - "you have to fuck guys else you're cucked" is too obvious of a troll, next time tone it down

Sorry I have to block you, good luck with trolling

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Nowhere does that comment break the rules

you recommended someone to pay a dude for sex. that's gay

 

[NEETard]

you recommended someone to pay a dude for sex. that's gay

Just purposely misinterpret comments bro! Youll always win arguments that way.

Its honestly sad the way you 2 act so you can always be right. Purposely misinterpreting comments so you can call me a troll so you can dismiss my arguments because "this guys a troll hes wrong i win"

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Just purposely misinterpret comments bro! Youll always win arguments that way.

Its honestly sad the way you 2 act so you can always be right. Purposely misinterpreting comments so you can call me a troll so you can dismiss my arguments because "this guys a troll hes wrong i win"

your entire argument is stupid as shit.

 

[Robtical]

Not to mention women don't even need to become prostitutes anymore, just go on OnlyFans and sell erotic clothed pictures and you'll be earning thousands.

Most of the men who pay for that are either from places where prostitution is illegal, or they're so low t they're not able to get actual hookers because they're afraid of them.