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Discord is spyware

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Spyware Level: EXTREMELY HIGH


Discord is spyware because it collects all information that passes through its communication platform. As Discord is a centralized communication platform, all communications have to go through Discord's official servers, where all of that information can potentially be recorded. The vast majority of said information has been confirmed to be recorded, such as all communications between users. Discord has also been confirmed to use other spyware features such as various forms of telemetry. Discord's main source of income is from investment, from which it has received over $279.3 million dollars[4]. Discord cannot be built from source and the source code for Discord is unavailable.

Discord does not make its source code available


It is impossible to download and examine Discord's source code, which means that it is impossible to prove that Discord is not spyware. Any program which does not make its source code available is potential spyware.

Discord confirms that it collects large amounts of sensitive user data


Discord explicitly confirms in its privacy policy[1] that it collects the following information:

  • IP Address
  • Device UUID
  • User's e-mail address
  • All text messages
  • All images
  • All VOIP data (voice chat)
  • Open rates for e-mail sent by Discord

Discord does not explictly confirm that it collects this information, but still collects it:

  • Logs of all of the other programs that are open on your computer

The implications of this information can be broken down like this: By recording your IP address, Discord can track your general location (about as precise as which county you are in). Discord can also tell which devices you use, as it uniquely identifies each device, and how much you use those devices, as it can record your device usage habits (since Discord is usually open in the background so that it can receive messages). Discord also records every single interaction you have with other users through its service. This means that Discord is confirmed to log every conversation that you have through Discord, and record everything that you say on Discord, and view all images that you send through Discord. Therefore, none of your interactions on Discord are private. Discord's privacy policy also contains several occurrences of phrases such as "including but not limited to," which is an explicit confirmation that Discord contains more spyware features that are not disclosed to the user.

Discord contains features which allow integration with other spyware platforms


Discord contains the opt-in spyware feature known as "social media integration." This allows you to sync your persistent user identity on Discord with your persistent user identity on other spyware platforms, such as Facebook and Twitter. In its privacy policy[1], Discord has confirmed that if you opt in to this spyware feature, Discord will obtain an undisclosed amount of access to information obtained about you by the spyware platforms that you choose to sync with.

Discord contains a process logger


Discord has been confirmed to monitor the open processes on your operating system. This is a spyware feature known as a "process logger" that is generally used to record your program usage habits. This was confirmed by the CTO of Discord in a Reddit thread.[2] In the same thread, the CTO also confirms that this spyware feature is mandatory and cannot be turned off. The CTO and a Discord engineer go on to claim that Discord does not use the process logger to send records of the open processes on the user's computer; however, this is not verifiable as the truth. What we do know is that Discord contains a process logger and sends encrypted packets to its master servers, meaning that it is impossible to prove that Discord is not sharing the information collected by its process logger. This shouldn't be able to happen on the web browser client for Discord.

Discord tries to force some users to give their Telephone numbers


Discord will lock users out of it's service and will not allow them to continue using it without giving their phone number or contacting Discord support. This kind of feature is designed to extract very personal information out of it's users (phone numbers). The criteria for locking out users isn't known.
discord phone verification

Discord's main source of investment comes from it's data collection potential


Discord has exclusively relied on the information that it collects from users to generate investment without any user monetization for the first three years of operation (5/13/2015 to 1/23/2017). This means that its main financial incentive is to collect user data, with other sources of income being secondary. Discord managed to sustain 4.2 million concurrent users on its network[3] without any income other than investments. This because it gets almost all of its money from investment, which is driven by its potential as a data mining (spyware) platform. Discord has raised $279.3 million dollars in investment[4] since 2012. Discord has 130 million users[7], which means that it can collect an immense amount of data using its spyware platform.

Discord will have a strong incentive to sell user information after investments stop


It's unknown whether Discord currently is or isn't selling user information. Currently Discord has been able to consistently raise new invesment capital, which is at a level where it could reasonably be covering all of its operating costs. However, Discord, like any other company, is not going to exist in a constant state of increased investments. When Discord has to transition away from an investment-financed business model to a revenue model that exclusively relies on generating revenue from the users of the platform. When Discord stops receiving new investments, and investors want a return on their investments, Discord is going to have a very strong incentive to sell user information.
This is the most reliable potential revenue source for Discord- in that, no matter what happens with their other revenue sources, Discord will awalys be able to sell the information of it's users. It has 130 million users[7], and all of the infrastructure already exists to sell their information. It's not something that may or may not work- it's not known whether or not Discord is already selling user information, but if they weren't already, and decided too, this model would definitely work since it relies on already existing users and information that Discord already has. If Discord gets into financial trouble, and the other revenue sources don't generate enough revenue, Discord will probably have too begin selling user information if it isn't already.

Discord is going to need too generate a larger amount of revenue than merely its operating costs as a company, because it needs to pay back it's investors. Remember, Discord has raised $279.3 million dollars[4]. This is all money that it needs to pay back several times over. This is why Discord's attempts at alternate sources of revenue, like Discord Nitro[5] and the Discord Games Store, probably wont be enough to meet this obligation. There isn't really any information on how much money Discord is making from either of these, there's only speculation because this isn't public information.

Discord receives government requests for your information


Discord has confirmed in an email correspondence[6] that it does receive government requests for information. So, we know that the government potentially has access to all of the information that Discord collects about you. You can read a copy of the email image posted in the source here in case the link there dies.

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It’s been known for a while, they get money from selling shit to feds.

Most tech companies do this
 
They give all your info to the feds.
 
Discord is normalfag shit. I get that incels are lonely, but whatever.
 
Everything you do online can easily be seen by your service provider, the government and the website that you access. Big companies like facebook, youtube, google are probably working together to create a complete profile of everything you have ever done, said and seen on the internet.
 
Discord is soyware
 
Discord is soyware
high q tbh

It really shouldn't come as a surprise that (((they're))) spying on you. I think they're too afraid to do anything at this current moment though
 
that's what you get for using proprietary software
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All free softwares spies on you and sell the data to companies for advertising. It's called big data.
 
All free softwares spies on you and sell the data to companies for advertising. It's called big data.
free as in free beer, not free as in freedom
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All free softwares spies on you and sell the data to companies for advertising. It's called big data.
this should be common sense, any non p2p website is going to collect data, even in a p2p server, i could still run bots to collect data
Protonmail and Tutanota are free and they don't spy on you. It's not about cost but about practices.
 
Based RMS. I can't live up to his principles, though. My computer runs proprietary software even though I'd prefer it didn't.
It's impossible to run only free software, though. Every hard drive has proprietary firmware, for example.
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Protonmail and Tutanota are free and they don't spy on you. It's not about cost but about practices.
I don't trust Protonmail, tbh.
 
i legit deleted it just today dedly srs
 
Protonmail and Tutanota are free and they don't spy on you. It's not about cost but about practices.
are you sure, if the have the key for your data, they could be easily decrypted in a nano second
 
btw is steam spyware?
 
It's impossible to run only free software, though. Every hard drive has proprietary firmware, for example.
Well, that's true. There are some steps I could take to reduce my "exposure" to free software, though. I could switch to a free software only version of GNU/Linux like Trisquel. It's mostly the inconvenience that's stopping me. RMS does all his computing on a T400s with Trisquel and libreboot. I can't live up to that standard.

are you sure, if the have the key for your data, they could be easily decrypted in a nano second
Sure, in the end you have to take them at their word. My point was that price isn't what makes something spyware or not. It's the behavior of the service itself. There are free services which are more than likely not spyware, and there are paid services which are spyware.
 
Well, that's true. There are some steps I could take to reduce my "exposure" to free software, though. I could switch to a free software only version of GNU/Linux like Trisquel. It's mostly the inconvenience that's stopping me. RMS does all his computing on a T400s with Trisquel and libreboot. I can't live up to that standard.


Sure, in the end you have to take them at their word. My point was that price isn't what makes something spyware or not. It's the behavior of the service itself. There are free services which are more than likely not spyware, and there are paid services which are spyware.
if you want to avoid spyware 100% would be better to just use Tor or SSH tunneling to navigate the web, and encrypt your entire hard drive
 
if you want to avoid spyware 100% would be better to just use Tor or SSH tunneling to navigate the web
Tor is not enough. The best way to download Cheese Pizza browse the internet would be Tor + a paid VPN, but the VPN provider would still be able to know what you do. The only solution is to live in a isolated cave.
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Given the history of bans I'm amazed that there is still an official .is Discord. Quite disappointing, frankly.
 
Tor is not enough. The best way to download Cheese Pizza browse the internet would be Tor + a paid VPN, but the VPN provider would still be able to know what you do. The only solution is to live in a isolated cave.
nah, Tor is pretty safe by itself, the issue is that people still know that you are using tor, but if you are not a idiot, you are probaly pretty safe with tor alone.
Given the history of bans I'm amazed that there is still an official .is Discord. Quite disappointing, frankly.
i'm quite amazed there's still a community here
 
nah, Tor is pretty safe by itself, the issue is that people still know that you are using tor, but if you are not a idiot, you are probaly pretty safe with tor alone.
Safety ≠ privacy.
 
Safety ≠ privacy.
you can dowload tails, if you want privacy so much, and connect thought ssh tunneling thought some SIM card to avoid ISP espying on yah, and ecrypt everyhing Vera Crypt, this is as close from getting privacy you can
 
Everything you do online can easily be seen by your service provider, the government and the website that you access. Big companies like facebook, youtube, google are probably working together to create a complete profile of everything you have ever done, said and seen on the internet.
one is literally owned by the other
 
Everything you do online can easily be seen by your service provider, the government and the website that you access. Big companies like facebook, youtube, google are probably working together to create a complete profile of everything you have ever done, said and seen on the internet.
Tax Collectors and Marketing companies have a lot of interest on this data
 
@itsogrecel jfl Imagine they open our convo and see this

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So what?
I want to go to jail, I want to be a burden to the system and will do everything I can to be more of a burden
 
Tax Collectors and Marketing companies have a lot of interest on this data

Just look up "google admits to spying" for countless examples. I wouldn't care so much if it was purely for marketing, but that data is collected and manipulated for political reasons (in addition to marketing)
 
Just look up "google admits to spying" for countless examples. I wouldn't care so much if it was purely for marketing, but that data is collected and manipulated for political reasons (in addition to marketing)
texman want to know how much your earns, how much you spent, so he can go and get your money to pay for wahmen abortion
 
Who cares tbh why would they want track a loser like me
 
texman want to know how much your earns, how much you spent, so he can go and get your money to pay for wahmen abortion

based and high IQ


that is also why they want to ban cash in a lot of countries
 
Discord is for cucks
 
based and high IQ


that is also why they want to ban cash in a lot of countries
governament banning cash for some centralised form of money would be lifefuel, i cant even imagine the ridiculous amount of hackers that would put billions on their back accounts :feelskek:

and i doubt anyone in congress would be high iq enough to use cryptocurrency
 
Who cares tbh why would they want track a loser like me
to get your tax money, see if you planing a "revolt" agains (((them)))
 
I honestly feel bad for any feds whos job is to spy on ugly virgins all day.
 

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