Despite High IQ heavily correlating with belief in racial equality and support for homosexuality, I and my father are the exact opposite

[Horatio Alger]

I always found it endlessly fascinating that despite the endless publications of the correlation between high IQ and liberalism, both me and my father possess some or several beliefs that could be construed as far right (not conservatism).

Perhaps this is due to a lifetime of living in a different environment/culture??? (while that is the case for my father, I grew up in the modern West, so perhaps not)

Perhaps it is due to a rare genetic mutation that increases intelligence while simultaneously increasing ethnic tribalism (Similar to Ashkenazi Jews lol) + obsession with reproduction in tandem (explains homophobia since it lowers fertility)???


My IQ: +152 (+3.43 SD)

based on a composite score of nonverbal childhood cognitive test score + ASVAB army GT composite score

I am very homophobic and racist (not IRL obviously), desiring nothing but the establishment of a ruthless, global apartheid/eugenicist regime and the internment of all homosexuals into work camps based off of the Chinese treatment of Uyghurs (outright extermination would be economically wasteful)


My father's IQ: lower than 175 (<5 SD) 150-160 (3.33-4 SD)???

His score on the mathematics section of one of the world's hardest college admission test equated to a spectacular 1 in 3.5 MILLION level, which equated to a math IQ of 175: a whopping 5 standard deviations above the mean.

However, he is not as verbally gifted, being around my mother's level (anywhere from 120-130 in verbal IQ), so estimated composite IQ of 153-159???


My father would be considered very homophobic and racist by the standards of modern society: thinking homosexuality is a genetic dead end and that some races are genetically superior to others, although he wouldn't even begin to contemplate the extreme measures I would take due to being overly compassionate and selfless relative to the vast majority of other humans


@DarthBurritoBastard @pedrolopezwasright @Castaway @DarkStar @HeinzKell

 

[BurntIvoryKingcel]

No IQ or racism for your face.

 

[Sir Waco]

No IQ or racism for your face.

 

[Horatio Alger]

No IQ or racism for your face.

My father was a HTN mogger in his youth

 

[BurntIvoryKingcel]

My father was an HTN mother in his youth

and you're a high tier incel

 

[Horatio Alger]

and you're a high tier incel

???
Do you mean LTN?

 

[BurntIvoryKingcel]

???
Do you mean LTN?

condolences

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

I always found it endlessly fascinating that despite the endless publications of the correlation between high IQ and liberalism, both me and my father possess some or several beliefs that could be construed as far right (not conservatism).

Perhaps this is due to a lifetime of living in a different environment/culture??? (while that is the case for my father, I grew up in the modern West, so perhaps not)

Perhaps it is due to a rare genetic mutation that increases intelligence while simultaneously increasing ethnic tribalism (Similar to Ashkenazi Jews lol) + obsession with reproduction in tandem (explains homophobia since it lowers fertility)???


My IQ: +152 (+3.43 SD)

based on a composite score of nonverbal childhood cognitive test score + ASVAB army GT composite score

I am very homophobic and racist (not IRL obviously), desiring nothing but the establishment of a ruthless, global apartheid/eugenicist regime and the internment of all homosexuals into work camps based off of the Chinese treatment of Uyghurs (outright extermination would be economically wasteful)


My father's IQ: lower than 175 (<5 SD) 150-160 (3.33-4 SD)???

His score on the mathematics section of one of the world's hardest college admission test equated to a spectacular 1 in 3.5 MILLION level, which equated to a math IQ of 175: a whopping 5 standard deviations above the mean.

However, he is not as verbally gifted, being around my mother's level (anywhere from 120-130 in verbal IQ), so estimated composite IQ of 153-159???


My father would be considered very homophobic and racist by the standards of modern society: thinking homosexuality is a genetic dead end and that some races are genetically superior to others, although he wouldn't even begin to contemplate the extreme measures I would take due to being overly compassionate and selfless relative to the vast majority of other humans


@DarthBurritoBastard @pedrolopezwasright @Castaway @DarkStar @HeinzKell

liberal beliefs come from being groomed in institutions, they are not innate to high IQ people

recall the goofy 'babies are racist' articles

 

[LUCK]

Any study relating to IQ and politics are usually heavily cherrypicked or leaves out a few details on purpose.

For example in the USA, most southern right wing states are very poor with little higher education available. Meanwhile in big cities like Cicago, NYC and California, colleges are basically everywhere.

It says more about race and infrastructure rather than politics once you dive a little deeper.

 

[Horatio Alger]

liberal beliefs come from being groomed in institutions, they are not innate to high IQ people

recall the goofy 'babies are racist' articles

The researchers found that both IQ scores and polygenic scores were significant predictors of political orientation. This pattern held true even when controlling for various socioeconomic factors.

Within families, a sibling with a higher IQ or more favorable polygenic scores for intelligence was more likely to lean towards liberal political beliefs compared to their sibling. This was consistent across both biological and adoptive families.

 

[Horatio Alger]

liberal beliefs come from being groomed in institutions, they are not innate to high IQ people

recall the goofy 'babies are racist' articles

I do agree that the relationship between intelligence and political beliefs change between time periods and would have been different if WW2 had gone differently,

HOWEVER, your own argument indicates that high IQ people are particularly susceptible to the corrosive influence of liberal ideology in the current era (something I and my father are immune to)

 

[Horatio Alger]

Any study relating to IQ and politics are usually heavily cherrypicked or leaves out a few details on purpose.

For example in the USA, most southern right wing states are very poor with little higher education available. Meanwhile in big cities like Cicago, NYC and California, colleges are basically everywhere.

It says more about race and infrastructure rather than politics once you dive a little deeper.

I do agree that the relationship between intelligence and political beliefs change between time periods and would have been different if WW2 had gone differently,

HOWEVER, your own argument indicates that high IQ people are particularly susceptible to the corrosive influence of liberal ideology in the current era (something I and my father are immune to)

 

[Horatio Alger]

@Fat Link , please move this to either the Lounge or Politics, Philosophy & Religion

 

[Horatio Alger]

@Fat Link , please move this to either the Lounge or Politics, Philosophy & Religion

Thanks @Fat Link

 

[4sez]

Liberalism is a degenerate, depraved ideology that rides off the backs of soylent men, retarded white women, and faggots.

 

[Fat Link]

Thanks @Fat Link

Yeah, no problem homie.

 

[PLA1092]

Brutal IQmog. Are you a richfag ?

 

[Horatio Alger]

Brutal IQmog. Are you a richfag ?

No, middle class.

If my father has been just a bit more selfish and not his usual selfless self, I would have been a richfag

 

[VeryNiceGuy]

Liberals are a bunch of faggots

 

[PLA1092]

No, middle class.

If my father has been just a bit more selfish and not his usual selfless self, I would have been a richfag

Planning to quantmaxx if you're working towards a math degree ? Insane pay if you genuinely have genius level IQ

 

[Koomersarj]

The researchers found that both IQ scores and polygenic scores were significant predictors of political orientation. This pattern held true even when controlling for various socioeconomic factors.

Within families, a sibling with a higher IQ or more favorable polygenic scores for intelligence was more likely to lean towards liberal political beliefs compared to their sibling. This was consistent across both biological and adoptive families.

Does this necessarily mean that people with IQs in the superior range are more likely to be left-wing though? The impression I got was that racism/homophobia was like a bell curve, with both the dumbest and smartest people being racist or homophobic, and left-wingers being overwhelmingly average in intelligence

 

[Horatio Alger]

Planning to quantmaxx if you're working towards a math degree ? Insane pay if you genuinely have genius level IQ

I might go back to University after tech school

 

[Horatio Alger]

Planning to quantmaxx if you're working towards a math degree ? Insane pay if you genuinely have genius level IQ

My father's math IQ is probably +1.5 SD higher than mine

 

[Scatius Deletus]

Billons must read

 

[Horatio Alger]

Does this necessarily mean that people with IQs in the superior range are more likely to be left-wing though? The impression I got was that racism/homophobia was like a bell curve, with both the dumbest and smartest people being racist or homophobic, and left-wingers being overwhelmingly average in intelligence

Yeah. The evidence suggests that people around 1 to 2 standard deviations above the mean (superior range) are more likely to be liberal.

However, you could be half right, with the ACTUAL smart people (+3-4 SD above the mean), being more likely to be racist/homophobic

Unfortunately, confirming this would require a study with a sample size in the millions (since people four standards above the mean are essentially unicorns)

I prefer to think that I and my father are the exceptions to the rule due to an as of yet undiscovered, extremely rare genetic mutation (admittedly just speculation on my part) that increases both intelligence and in-group bias substantially

 

[Horatio Alger]

JFL

 

[Scatius Deletus]

JFL

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[blackpillednigga]

IQ measures pattern recognition, spacial awareness, memorization, and verbal stuff. it has nothing to do with politics. the unabomber had a 160 iq but his political views were deranged and schizo

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

I do agree that the relationship between intelligence and political beliefs change between time periods and would have been different if WW2 had gone differently,

HOWEVER, your own argument indicates that high IQ people are particularly susceptible to the corrosive influence of liberal ideology in the current era (something I and my father are immune to)

It's also in the interest of the leftwing movement to report that liberal beliefs are inevitable for someone who is high IQ, 'facts' like this should be scrutinized.

 

[Castaway]

A person's political beliefs are determined by their knowledge and experiences, reflected by their environment, rather than by their intelligence, which reflects their genetics. Personality, which is genetic, also influences the formation of political beliefs more than intelligence: individuals with masculine personalities are more likely to be right-wing than individuals with feminine personalities, who are more likely to be left-wing. Individuals with high IQs are more likely to grow up in wealthier households and communities and to end up in the world's top universities, which are hotbeds of far-left political activity and discourse, so it makes sense that individuals with high IQs are more likely to lean left.

 

[Horatio Alger]

IQ measures pattern recognition, spacial awareness, memorization, and verbal stuff. it has nothing to do with politics. the unabomber had a 160 iq but his political views were deranged and schizo

It is correlated with politics , indicating the high IQ are especially susceptible to liberal ideology in this day and age

 

[Allah (Real)]

My IQ: +152 (+3.43 SD)

based on a composite score of nonverbal childhood cognitive test score + ASVAB army GT composite score

I am very homophobic and racist (not IRL obviously), desiring nothing but the establishment of a ruthless, global apartheid/eugenicist regime and the internment of all homosexuals into work camps based off of the Chinese treatment of Uyghurs (outright extermination would be economically wasteful)

WTF are you doing on this forum bro, put that IQ into good use.

High IQ is correlated with "liberalism" but its not like there aren't exceptions. Given a large enough sample of course there are exceptions.

Also why are you homophobic, gay people don't really affect you negatively at all. Eugenics is also stupid since you would need to wage a permanent war on what you consider bad genes, its not a one and done thing.

 

[4sez]

Also why are you homophobic, gay people don't really affect you negatively at all.

So you support faggotry?

 

[Horatio Alger]

WTF are you doing on this forum bro, put that IQ into good use.

High IQ is correlated with "liberalism" but its not like there aren't exceptions. Given a large enough sample of course there are exceptions.

Also why are you homophobic, gay people don't really affect you negatively at all.

Since both me and my dad are racist AND homophobic (My father rarely talks about both topics without my prompting) and I was sympathetic to fascism and ruthless acts of state sanctioned terror even at a young age (I supported developmental dictatorships and ruthless crackdowns on protests since middle school), I presume that we are exceptions due to a rare genetic mutation.

Homosexuals affect me negatively since they have reduced fertility, meaning homosexuals of my race (those closest to me genetically) will not pass down their genes, thus further endangering group survival

 

[Allah (Real)]

So you support faggotry?

live and let live, it doesn't harm my self interest

 

[4sez]

live and let live, it doesn't harm my self interest

Islam is cucked.

 

[Allah (Real)]

Homosexuals do affect me negatively since they have reduced fertility, meaning homosexuals of my race (those closest to me genetically) will not pass down their genes, thus further endangering group survival

are you like pronatalist or something, like do you think people should have as many children as possible. thats pretty rare in these spaces

 

[Horatio Alger]

It's also in the interest of the leftwing movement to report that liberal beliefs are inevitable for someone who is high IQ, 'facts' like this should be scrutinized.

That's true, but hundreds of publications have replicated the data, and it would be disingenuous to claim all of them are leftwing ideologues

 

[Horatio Alger]

WTF are you doing on this forum bro, put that IQ into good use.

There is a nifty thing called free time. I'm not a NEET anymore and I'm going back to school

 

[4sez]

There is a nifty thing called free time. I'm not a NEET anymore and I'm going back to school

What are you majoring in?

 

[4sez]

live and let live, it doesn't harm my self interest

So, you support pedophilia.

 

[Horatio Alger]

are you like pronatalist or something, like do you think people should have as many children as possible. thats pretty rare in these spaces

Well, I think only people of good constitution should breed, and everyone else should be phased out of the gene pool either through sterilization or outright extermination to improve our racial stock (homosexuals since they lower fertility; the low IQ, mentally ill, and the weak since they are not only a genetic drag, but a financial one imposed on the state)

 

[Allah (Real)]

So, you support pedophilia.

no, because I was a child once too

 

[Allah (Real)]

Well, I think only people of good constitution should breed, and everyone else should be phased out of the gene pool either through sterilization or outright extermination to improve our racial stock (homosexuals since they lower fertility; the low IQ, mentally ill, and the weak since they are not only a genetic drag, but a financial one imposed on the state)

As a sub-5 this is against your self interest, I don't know why would you support this unless its for the greater good or something

 

[Horatio Alger]

A person's political beliefs are determined by their knowledge and experiences, reflected by their environment, rather than by their intelligence, which reflects their genetics. Personality, which is genetic, also influences the formation of political beliefs more than intelligence: individuals with masculine personalities are more likely to be right-wing than individuals with feminine personalities, who are more likely to be left-wing. Individuals with high IQs are more likely to grow up in wealthier households and communities and to end up in the world's top universities, which are hotbeds of far-left political activity and discourse, so it makes sense that individuals with high IQs are more likely to lean left.

That's true.

Also the reason why many intellectuals supported either fascism or communism during the 1930s, before the final triumph and ideological hegemony (or so it seems) of liberalism after WW2 and the cold war.


The high IQs probably lean left in this day and age due to exposure to environments of far left activity and discourse.


But it is interesting that I turned out as a fascist despite lifelong exposure to liberal ideology in the schools I go to and my fellow peers (my father is apolitical)

 

[Horatio Alger]

As a sub-5 this is against your self interest, I don't know why would you support this unless its for the greater good or something

It is for the greater good. Plus it is also in my interest since by ensuring the survival and prosperity of my race, I'll ensure that my genes survive (since those of my race resemble me genetically for the most part)

 

[doasyouwill]

I always found it endlessly fascinating that despite the endless publications of the correlation between high IQ and liberalism, both me and my father possess some or several beliefs that could be construed as far right (not conservatism).

Perhaps this is due to a lifetime of living in a different environment/culture??? (while that is the case for my father, I grew up in the modern West, so perhaps not)

Perhaps it is due to a rare genetic mutation that increases intelligence while simultaneously increasing ethnic tribalism (Similar to Ashkenazi Jews lol) + obsession with reproduction in tandem (explains homophobia since it lowers fertility)???


My IQ: +152 (+3.43 SD)

based on a composite score of nonverbal childhood cognitive test score + ASVAB army GT composite score

I am very homophobic and racist (not IRL obviously), desiring nothing but the establishment of a ruthless, global apartheid/eugenicist regime and the internment of all homosexuals into work camps based off of the Chinese treatment of Uyghurs (outright extermination would be economically wasteful)


My father's IQ: lower than 175 (<5 SD) 150-160 (3.33-4 SD)???

His score on the mathematics section of one of the world's hardest college admission test equated to a spectacular 1 in 3.5 MILLION level, which equated to a math IQ of 175: a whopping 5 standard deviations above the mean.

However, he is not as verbally gifted, being around my mother's level (anywhere from 120-130 in verbal IQ), so estimated composite IQ of 153-159???


My father would be considered very homophobic and racist by the standards of modern society: thinking homosexuality is a genetic dead end and that some races are genetically superior to others, although he wouldn't even begin to contemplate the extreme measures I would take due to being overly compassionate and selfless relative to the vast majority of other humans


@DarthBurritoBastard @pedrolopezwasright @Castaway @DarkStar @HeinzKell

I can relate to this. The correlation is probably merely relates to higher rates of education which exposes them to more liberal material. My father and I are both engineers. I opted to take a Mensa IQ test in a psych class and scored 134 which is about +2.27 SD. I have always been as racist as my father.

 

[m3nt4Lbl0ck3d]

I can relate to this. The correlation is probably merely relates to higher rates of education which exposes them to more liberal material. My father and I are both engineers. I opted to take a Mensa IQ test in a psych class and scored 134 which is about +2.27 SD. I have always been as racist as my father.

This is pretty much what I'm trying to say, and he is either severely misunderstanding me or doing it deliberately. Look at the state of indoctrination as far as liberalism goes in schools and universities now. If it's going to get them jobs and well paid of course they're going to submit and apply their capacity of knowledge towards more socially accepted avenues. That in itself is high IQ - doesn't mean that High IQ people can't choose to be blissfully ignorant to the consequences of their own benefits. Not everyone is going to selectively choose to be a social martyr. Not with the way this world tries to cancel everyone who doesn't conform to the status quo.

 

[Horatio Alger]

This is pretty much what I'm trying to say, and he is either severely misunderstanding me or doing it deliberately. Look at the state of indoctrination as far as liberalism goes in schools and universities now. If it's going to get them jobs and well paid of course they're going to submit and apply their capacity of knowledge towards more socially accepted avenues. That in itself is high IQ - doesn't mean that High IQ people can't choose to be blissfully ignorant to the consequences of their own benefits. Not everyone is going to selectively choose to be a social martyr. Not with the way this world tries to cancel everyone who doesn't conform to the status quo.

Do you understand the meaning of correlation?

All I'm saying is that those with High Iqs are more likely to be left leaning in the current era (is, not set in stone)

 

[m3nt4Lbl0ck3d]

Do you understand the meaning of correlation?

All I'm saying is that those with High Iqs are more likely to be left leaning in the current era (is, not set in stone)

I know what you're saying, I'm merely trying to explain why that's the case or add an extension to what you're saying with my own opinion on the matter. Not sure why you had to define what correlation means like it isn't an abstract term depending on what the lines are being crossed through comparison. Also, reiterating with asking if I know what "correlation" means when the word has been used several times by myself and you is just being condescending. Now I'm starting to wander if you even are high IQ. How's that for condescending. Would you like me to google define it for you and share it here also?