Discussion Define the line between incel and fakecel and who’s allowed to use the site.

[vippnor]

I think the line between incel and fakecel is getting very blurry and needs to be properly defined. Users like @Therapywasawaste could get cheated on today and be lonely the rest of his life but we will hate him forever because he’s a “fakecel. It’s almost like how being born blind is better than becoming blind at some point in your life. He’ll know what it’s like and could never touch it again. I understand nobody here wants users mogging them but I think we can confidently say at least 30-40% of this forum regularly lies to seem more incel/truecel. Or just lies about their inceldom altogether. The forum rules genuinely encourage larp. There’s another demographic of users here who are experiencing a pussy drought and will reside here until Becky finally starts snapping back. When I joined this forum users were always talking about how this website is filled with fakecels and larpers and those were the days when the manosphere was more of a niche topic… imagine how it is now that the manosphere has entered the mainstream. I’ve seen threads from here on tiktok, ig reels, twitter (X). Of course nobody here will willingly admit to larping but let’s be serious please? I fully believe once a man is blackpilled a part of him will stay that way forever no matter how much his life improves or worsens.

 

[SupremeAutist]

everyone but me is fakecel

 

[Darth Aries]

The line is getting into a relationship or having sex, I am yet to attain either of those things.

 

[vippnor]

The line is getting into a relationship or having sex, I am yet to attain either of those things.

So if you decided tomorrow night to go to the bar and some drunken looksmatch slut stumbled her way from the bar with you back into your room. Would you delete your account here/request a ban? Or act as if nothing happened?

 

[SupremeAutist]

So if you decided tomorrow night to go to the bar and some drunken looksmatch slut stumbled her way from the bar with you back into your room. Would you delete your account here/request a ban? Or act as if nothing happened?

If that happened to me I'd definitely request a ban here. I wish something like that could happen to me

 

[Darth Aries]

So if you decided tomorrow night to go to the bar and some drunken looksmatch slut stumbled her way from the bar with you back into your room. Would you delete your account here/request a ban? Or act as if nothing happened?

I would 1000% delete my account. I’m only here because it’s all I have.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

If you were ever super lonely for your whole life, ascending can fix a lot, but there will always be a hole in your soul. Even rehab room admits this. And I agree. I’m a complete KHHV at around 20, and I know even if I ascended, I’d never fully be normal. Plus, if I ever broke up with a potential girlfriend, I might never get another like you said.

Right now I’m used to being an incel since it’s all I’ve known, and I cope like crazy with hobbies and this forum. In fact, almost all of my spare money goes towards funding my car hobby. And most of my free time is on this forum or cooming.

If I ascended and got a taste of love, cuddles, and sex for a decent amount of time, I genuinely might kill myself instead of being able to cope

 

[vippnor]

I would 1000% delete my account. I’m only here because it’s all I have.

But that experience you hypothetically had gave you nothing. When you woke up the next morning everything is still the exact same

 

[vippnor]

If that happened to me I'd definitely request a ban here. I wish something like that could happen to me

What would you do then? Be a non virgin incel?

 

[vippnor]

If I ascended and got a taste of love, cuddles, and sex for a decent amount of time, I genuinely might kill myself instead of being able to cope

Exactly.

 

[SupremeAutist]

Be a non virgin incel?

No such thing. If I have sex not including escortcelling I'm no longer incel

 

[KFM]

I think the line between incel and fakecel is getting very blurry and needs to be properly defined. Users like @Therapywasawaste could get cheated on today and be lonely the rest of his life but we will hate him forever because he’s a “fakecel. It’s almost like how being born blind is better than becoming blind at some point in your life. He’ll know what it’s like and could never touch it again. I understand nobody here wants users mogging them but I think we can confidently say at least 30-40% of this forum regularly lies to seem more incel/truecel. Or just lies about their inceldom altogether. The forum rules genuinely encourage larp. There’s another demographic of users here who are experiencing a pussy drought and will reside here until Becky finally starts snapping back. When I joined this forum users were always talking about how this website is filled with fakecels and larpers and those were the days when the manosphere was more of a niche topic… imagine how it is now that the manosphere has entered the mainstream. I’ve seen threads from here on tiktok, ig reels, twitter (X). Of course nobody here will willingly admit to larping but let’s be serious please? I fully believe once a man is blackpilled a part of him will stay that way forever no matter how much his life improves or worsens.

If ur not khhv kys

 

[vippnor]

No such thing. If I have sex not including escortcelling I'm no longer incel

So if the rest of your life went how it did prior to you having sex you still wouldn’t consider yourself an incel?

 

[vippnor]

If ur not khhv kys

Joined Friday at 8:41 PM

 

[KFM]

Joined Friday at 8:41 PM

Been in BP spaces almost 5 years I think I'm allowed to speak on this

 

[Mecoja]

From my perspective even being seen as a human by a female is unimaginable, so if the sexhavers get fucked over i dont care. Not KHHV, go fuck yourself.

 

[pixy.BLACKED]

I think the line between incel and fakecel is getting very blurry and needs to be properly defined.

It is properly defined

Rule explanation: What it means to be an incel on incels.is so that you may join our site.

Our community’s unique definition of the term and word “incel” is not exactly the same as what you might find in the normie world or in a dictionary.

For us an incel is a male who has never had a romantic, voluntary, unpaid sexual relationship with a human female ever in his entire life and no romance whatsoever in his entire life with a human female, so this means to join up here and not be banned you must never of had a girlfriend or wife nor even a fling or one night stand, as that too can be based in a type of fleeting romantic love or passion.

The community has also repeatedly voted that so called “escortcels” ie men who have paid sex with prostitutes whether on a regular basis, once in a while or whenever the mood strikes may also be considered incels and join the community since our userbase as a majority agrees that romantic pair bonding is what separates the normies and the Chads ie sex havers from we incels and not simply sex itself.

Once a person is able (if ever) to obtain a woman’s love and affection and voluntary sexual intercourse from her, that man has “ascended” meaning they have leveled up beyond incel status and now become a normie or a Chad.

Rules and FAQ

Welcome! This is a forum for male involuntary celibates, single men who have trouble finding a significant other. MEMBERSHIP Incel (Allowed): A man (18+) who desires a romantic relationship but is unable to enter one. Women and LGBT Individuals (Not allowed): Banned on sight, no...

incels.is

TLDR: The line is if you've had unpaid sex or not. There is no in between, end of story. There are plenty of other sites you can go to if you're blackpilled but have had sex but this place is not one of them.

 

[vippnor]

It is properly defined

Rules and FAQ

Welcome! This is a forum for male involuntary celibates, single men who have trouble finding a significant other. MEMBERSHIP Incel (Allowed): A man (18+) who desires a romantic relationship but is unable to enter one. Women and LGBT Individuals (Not allowed): Banned on sight, no...

incels.is

TLDR: The line is if you've had unpaid sex or not. There is no in between, end of story. There are plenty of other sites you can go to if you're blackpilled but have had sex and this is not one of them.

Yeah no shit my guy

 

[Mecoja]

If ur not khhv kys

Based.

 

[TheJester]

The line is getting into a relationship or having sex, I am yet to attain either of those things.

This. Honestly escortmaxxers are fakecel to me as well.

 

[pixy.BLACKED]

Yeah no shit my guy

They why did you make this thread?

 

[vippnor]

TLDR: The line is if you've had unpaid sex or not. There is no in between, end of story. There are plenty of other sites you can go to if you're blackpilled but have had sex but this place is not one of them.

Hence why it encourages larp.

 

[Darth Aries]

But that experience you hypothetically had gave you nothing. When you woke up the next morning everything is still the exact same

No, I’d have gained the knowledge that I am capable of doing the same with more women. I’ve tried approaching women and it hasn’t gone in my favor yet.

 

[vippnor]

They why did you make this thread?

I think it should be changed.

 

[I Gotta Survive]

I think the line between incel and fakecel is getting very blurry and needs to be properly defined. Users like @Therapywasawaste could get cheated on today and be lonely the rest of his life but we will hate him forever because he’s a “fakecel. It’s almost like how being born blind is better than becoming blind at some point in your life. He’ll know what it’s like and could never touch it again. I understand nobody here wants users mogging them but I think we can confidently say at least 30-40% of this forum regularly lies to seem more incel/truecel. Or just lies about their inceldom altogether. The forum rules genuinely encourage larp. There’s another demographic of users here who are experiencing a pussy drought and will reside here until Becky finally starts snapping back. When I joined this forum users were always talking about how this website is filled with fakecels and larpers and those were the days when the manosphere was more of a niche topic… imagine how it is now that the manosphere has entered the mainstream. I’ve seen threads from here on tiktok, ig reels, twitter (X). Of course nobody here will willingly admit to larping but let’s be serious please? I fully believe once a man is blackpilled a part of him will stay that way forever no matter how much his life improves or worsens.

I am blackpilled and I know even if I somehow ascended, I will never view humanity through the same lens as when I was a child. Also, I used to have 3-4 female friends but now I don't talk to them. I have the personality, and I am not neurodivergent (probably a little shy). Only thing that keeps me from ascending is my height and yes even if I somehow found that unicorn, I will still be alone because that void in your heart that comes into existence for being alone for years on end will never be filled.

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

- Incel: Can't get a woman romantically or sexually interested in him, can only get sex via paying a prostitute.

- Fakecel: Can romantically and sexually attract a woman.

I mean, it's really not that blurry.

So if you decided tomorrow night to go to the bar and some drunken looksmatch slut stumbled her way from the bar with you back into your room. Would you delete your account here/request a ban? Or act as if nothing happened?

There's no way that could've happened to me, but if it did, I'd immediately delete my account and low-key start wondering whether I haven't died and gone to heaven for me to actually somehow become attractive to women.

But that experience you hypothetically had gave you nothing. When you woke up the next morning everything is still the exact same

It would give me more than I've gotten in over two decades of loneliness and absolutely nothing would be the same, because I would know that it is possible for me to attract a woman.

The line is getting into a relationship or having sex, I am yet to attain either of those things.

If that happened to me I'd definitely request a ban here. I wish something like that could happen to me

 

[Sonicfancel]

everyone but me is fakecel

 

[vippnor]

- Incel: Can't get a woman romantically or sexually interested in him, can only get sex via paying a prostitute.

- Fakecel: Can romantically and sexually attract a woman.

I mean, it's really not that blurry.


There's no way that could've happened to me, but if it did, I'd immediately delete my account and low-key start wondering whether I haven't died and gone to heaven for me to actually somehow become attractive to women.


It would give me more than I've gotten in over two decades of loneliness and absolutely nothing would be the same, because I would know that it is possible for me to attract a woman.

I think for individuals who are truly sub 4/10 sex is almost 100 percent built on luck. You may never get “lucky” again. It might be impossible for you to attract a woman. You will not be able to consistently attract any women at all but because you had sex with a blacked out foid your life changes?

 

[vippnor]

- Incel: Can't get a woman romantically or sexually interested in him, can only get sex via paying a prostitute.

- Fakecel: Can romantically and sexually attract a woman.

I mean, it's really not that blurry.


There's no way that could've happened to me, but if it did, I'd immediately delete my account and low-key start wondering whether I haven't died and gone to heaven for me to actually somehow become attractive to women.


It would give me more than I've gotten in over two decades of loneliness and absolutely nothing would be the same, because I would know that it is possible for me to attract a woman.

I worked at a bar a little bit during the fall semester and can confidently say that at least 40 percent of this forums user base could ascend.

 

[pixy.BLACKED]

Hence why it encourages larp.

I kind of get what you're getting at but I'd rather have larpers here that are forced to not speak on their experiences rather than opening the pandora's box of letting people who "got lucky" in. The thing about braggers/larpers is if you given them a inch, they'll take a mile and they'll no doubt see this as a loop hole to gloat about their romantic success to the guys who haven't had any here.

 

[Neucher The Kanga]

everyone but @Animecel2D and me is a fakecel

 

[vippnor]

I kind of get what you're getting at but I'd rather have larpers here that are forced to not speak on their experiences rather than opening the pandora's box of letting people who "got lucky" in. The thing about braggers/larpers is if you given them a inch they'll take a mile and they'll no doubt see this as a loop hole to gloat about their romantic success to the guys who haven't had any here.

I don’t think any bragging should be allowed but don’t you think it would be constructive if incels that ascended were here to tell you what worked for them?

 

[vippnor]

everyone but @Animecel2D and me is a fakecel

Oh boy I’ve got news for you…

 

[Neucher The Kanga]

Oh boy I’ve got news for you…

did he ascend or what

 

[pixy.BLACKED]

I don’t think any bragging should be allowed but don’t you think it would be constructive if incels that ascended were here to tell you what worked for them?

Sure, they should be free to do that in their good bye threads. Personally I hate it when mods lock, delete, or otherwise disrupt those threads and hard ban the users so you can't DM them because it hurts potential discussion that should be had on this forum.

 

[vippnor]

did he ascend or what

No he’s an incel saint

 

[Neucher The Kanga]

No he’s an incel saint

He'll probably ascend before he reaches 1m posts

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

Imagine not being KHHV in 2025

 

[VideoGameCoper]

This. Honestly escortmaxxers are fakecel to me as well.

Nah. If you gotta PAY FOR SEX, you are 100% incel. Having to pay for sex is so ridiculously sad when it’s just a natural human thing everyone should have.

It’s akin to being an orphan from your birth date to adulthood and paying a woman who doesn’t give a fuck about you to act like a mother to you for brief moments

 

[TheJester]

Nah. If you gotta PAY FOR SEX, you are 100% incel. Having to pay for sex is so ridiculously sad when it’s just a natural human thing everyone should have.

It’s akin to being an orphan from your birth date to adulthood and paying a woman who doesn’t give a fuck about you to act like a mother to you for brief moments

The glorification by paying a female lots of money for nothing basically is what i consider a form of simping

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

I think for individuals who are truly sub 4/10 sex is almost 100 percent built on luck.

Cool. Then we can define this forum as a place for the guys who have never "gotten lucky." I'm about to be 27 in a few weeks and am just as much of a KHHV as I was as a child, meanwhile a lot of the banned members are completely normal teenagers who have gotten laid even sooner than most men will, yet I'm supposed to believe that they are basically the same as me, no difference in attractiveness or anything, and that the same would've happened to me if only I was in their place, and we should share this forum because they might not get their dicks wet again.

You may never get “lucky” again. It might be impossible for you to attract a woman. You will not be able to consistently attract any women at all but because you had sex with a blacked out foid your life changes?

Not even a blacked out foid would want me. Trust me, I have been around drunk women, both in HS and currently now in college.

Also, let's turn this around. You're saying that those guys might've gotten lucky once and may never again, but what if they will "get lucky" again? Talking specifically about @Therapywasawaste, there's absolutely nothing unusual about an 18-year-old having only had one girlfriend so far, if anything it might be a better position to be in than the average 18-year-old has right now. We can believe that it was somehow just a "fluke" and that those guys are totally never going to get laid again, but what if they do? What if they just find other girlfriends? Are we going to have guys here who have had two romantic partners in their lives in here along with wizards, pretending that they are the same?

Remember that there is a much bigger difference between 0 and 1 then there is between 1 and 2. As in, "it never happened" and "it happened once" are much further apart than "it happened once" and "it happened twice". If this forum allows in men who have had one girlfriend so far, what reason would there be to keep out those who have had two? Or three?

Sorry, but sometimes a line simply has to be made. Remember that the average man has only about 5 sex partners in his life, and if that hack NuancePill and other copers like him are right and the studies they show are actual, then there might be about twenty or thirty times more men who have had only one or two girlfriends then there are virgins. Should all of them just be classified as incels and allowed here?

I worked at a bar a little bit during the fall semester and can confidently say that at least 40 percent of this forums user base could ascend.

A big minority is still a minority. If we opened the flodgates to normies who "just got lucky once bro, trust me, it could never happen again to a truecel like me bro," then that percentage would at least double.

Imagine not being KHHV in 2025

Nah. If you gotta PAY FOR SEX, you are 100% incel.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

The glorification by paying a female lots of money for nothing basically is what i consider a form of simping

Paying to fuck a whore is the same as paying to drive a supercar. It’s ridiculously expensive it you do it because it’s fun.

 

[vippnor]

This. Honestly escortmaxxers are fakecel to me as well.

Gotta be ragebait

 

[vippnor]

Cool. Then we can define this forum as a place for the guys who have never "gotten lucky." I'm about to be 27 in a few weeks and am just as much of a KHHV as I was as a child, meanwhile a lot of the banned members are completely normal teenagers who have gotten laid even sooner than most men will, yet I'm supposed to believe that they are basically the same as me, no difference in attractiveness or anything, and that the same would've happened to me if only I was in their place, and we should share this forum because they might not get their dicks wet again.


Not even a blacked out foid would want me. Trust me, I have been around drunk women, both in HS and currently now in college.

Also, let's turn this around. You're saying that those guys might've gotten lucky once and may never again, but what if they will "get lucky" again? Talking specifically about @Therapywasawaste, there's absolutely nothing unusual about an 18-year-old having only had one girlfriend so far, if anything it might be a better position to be in than the average 18-year-old has right now. We can believe that it was somehow just a "fluke" and that those guys are totally never going to get laid again, but what if they do? What if they just find other girlfriends? Are we going to have guys here who have had two romantic partners in their lives in here along with wizards, pretending that they are the same?

Remember that there is a much bigger difference between 0 and 1 then there is between 1 and 2. As in, "it never happened" and "it happened once" are much further apart than "it happened once" and "it happened twice". If this forum allows in men who have had one girlfriend so far, what reason would there be to keep out those who have had two? Or three?

Sorry, but sometimes a line simply has to be made. Remember that the average man has only about 5 sex partners in his life, and if that hack NuancePill and other copers like him are right and the studies they show are actual, then there might be about twenty or thirty times more men who have had only one or two girlfriends then there are virgins. Should all of them just be classified as incels and allowed here?


A big minority is still a minority. If we opened the flodgates to normies who "just got lucky once bro, trust me, it could never happen again to a truecel like me bro," then that percentage would at least double.

I understand what you’re saying but my point is that users here are being dishonest about their experience and personally I believe it’d improve forum discourse if there was no reason to lie. Obviously bragging shouldn’t be allowed but those who have had “fluke” experiences are still one of us.

 

[Skelly]

Been in BP spaces almost 5 years I think I'm allowed to speak on this

yeah bro ive been lurking since 2001

 

[Biowaste Removal]

Low IQ post, you obviously aren't fully blackpilled if that's what you think the life of a "fakecel" is like.

 

[Anthrofurrcel]

Incel: tries approaching foids and has several experiences of brutal rejection
Fakecel: has never even tried, is 5'8 and says he's incel because he's non-nt and had a toilet call him ugly in elementary school

 

[AlexDelarge]

So if you decided tomorrow night to go to the bar and some drunken looksmatch slut stumbled her way from the bar with you back into your room. Would you delete your account here/request a ban? Or act as if nothing happened?

thats the whole point if that happens to you you are a fakecel

no amount of alcohol or any other substance could make any (literally any) foid in the world even want to hug me let alone have sex with me

 

[Ahnfeltia]

The line is getting into a relationship or having sex

I concur. OP makes a valid point, but this is probably the only remotely practicable criterion. I think it's also the one that's currently in effect.

So if you decided tomorrow night to go to the bar and some drunken looksmatch slut stumbled her way from the bar with you back into your room. Would you delete your account here/request a ban? Or act as if nothing happened?

Many users mightn't come forward, but the honorable thing would be to do so.

 

[KFM]

yeah bro ive been lurking since 2001

Bros exaggerating