Dating anything below our race is not ascension for White men

[vermilion]

I have no intention to take cheap shots at ethnics. This is not meant to be a mocking thread. Be civil.

Statistically speaking, White women are the most desirable on the planet, hence everybody wants a piece of them.

While ethnics claim we just have to be White in order to attract ethnic chicks, it is extremely humiliating for any White folk to date down his race knowing that our women are the most desirable.

It is not ascension to give up on race and culture so as to get laid and possibly have mixed-race children with no sense of belonging. This implies we are losers who could not compete with other men for our fellow countrywomen and resorted to foreigners out of desperation.

Think of it this way: you are a soccer enthusiast who only plays against High School students because you know competing with Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi is beyond your talents.

 

[Deleted member 38936]

over for huwite men

 

[Deleted member 36465]

As a curry myself, I refuse to date sheboons.

 

[Zer0/∞]

Not even Korean noodlestacy?

 

[mentally lost cel 1]

I have no intention to take cheap shots at ethnics. This is not meant to be a mocking thread. Be civil.

Statistically speaking, White women are the most desirable on the planet, hence everybody wants a piece of them.

While ethnics claim we just have to be White in order to attract ethnic chicks, it is extremely humiliating for any White folk to date down his race knowing that our women are the most desirable.

It is not ascension to give up on race and culture so as to get laid and possibly have mixed-race children with no sense of belonging. This implies we are losers who could not compete with other men for our fellow countrywomen and resorted to foreigners out of desperation.

Think of it this way: you are a soccer enthusiast who only plays against High School students because you know competing with Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi is beyond your talents.

Daring anything below your average girl is shit

 

[Undervalued]

Literally, a volcel what the hell is this thread. You can get laid without having children it isn't a must.

 

[worthlessloser26]

Like my white dad who had to resort to marrying a brown Mestiza and had me, a bastard with no sense of belonging to either group. Brutal

 

[vermilion]

Literally, a volcel what the hell is this thread. You can get laid without having children it isn't a must.

It's not ascension nonetheless. Besides, contrary to what's popularly claimed here, marriage has its benefits. Almost no man can make it to his 70's or 80's without a woman by his side, which is part of the reason celibates tend to die early. Lack of sex and companionship.

Now, isn't it humiliating to date down your race for the sole purpose of getting laid, especially being aware of the fact that the only way for you to ever have a family like everybody else is to accept that your children are going to be racially and culturally different from the rest of the population?

 

[Undervalued]

It's not ascension nonetheless. Besides, contrary to what's popularly claimed here, marriage has its benefits. Almost no man can make it to his 70's or 80's without a woman by his side, which is part of the reason celibates tend to die early. Lack of sex and companionship.

Now, isn't it humiliating to date down your race for the sole purpose of getting laid, especially being aware of the fact that the only way for you to have a family like everybody else is to accept that your children are going to be racially and culturally different from the rest of the population?

I can tell that you are young wait a few decades, JFL, and you'll be much more desperate. Fuck identity and culture you're literally punishing yourself for no reason. If your son is Chad even the most racist girl will pull the panties to the side.

Also, this forum is an involuntary celibate forum I'll be seriously surprised if you don't get a warning for this.

 

[lemon21]

Dude, there's some top tier noodles/ethnic foids who will reject below-average white males, sorry to dissapoint but the copium was too strong on this one. JBW works, but it's really limited

 

[vermilion]

I can tell that you are young wait a few decades, JFL, and you'll be much more desperate. Fuck identity and culture you're literally punishing yourself for no reason.

I'm not punishing myself. I haven't received indicators of interest from any woman. My point, which you consistently fail to understand, is that it's not ascension to date below your race.

Also, this forum is an involuntary celibate forum I'll be seriously surprised if you don't get a warning for this.

The moderators aren't stupid. They know what I meant.

 

[vermilion]

Dude, there's some top tier noodles/ethnic foids who will reject below-average white males, sorry to dissapoint but the copium was too strong on this one. JBW works, but it's really limited

You didn't disappoint me. You disappointed any firm believer of Just Be White. I'm merely pointing out that dating below our racial standards is not really ascension. If your sole purpose is to feel sexual pleasure, go and meet up with escorts. It's the same thing in the end of the day.

 

[Nihilistic Lowlife]

If you white you should only date white dont go for noodle they overated

 

[Deleted member 41220]

Ascension happen only with foids that are somewhat human looking ... zoophilia doesn't count and is a crime

 

[Undervalued]

I'm not punishing myself. I haven't received indicators of interest from any woman. My point, which you consistently fail to understand, is that it's not ascension to date below your race.


The moderators aren't stupid. They know what I meant.

That's your own opinion, not an objective fact. Constant genuine love/sexual attraction from multiple women is the definition of ascension it doesn't matter what race they are.

There was a couple of Chadlites on this forum that's why I'm skeptical of users who make these types of threads.

Lastly, if you've never tried ethnic foids and won't then you are a standardcel/volcel.

 

[lemon21]

You didn't disappoint me. You disappointed any firm believer of Just Be White. I'm merely pointing out that dating below our racial standards is not really ascension. If your sole purpose is to feel sexual pleasure, go and meet up with escorts. It's the same thing in the end of the day.

You're like the countless amount of ridiculous posters that think BlackPill is some kind of forbidden knowledge, ascension is SEX there's nothing praiseworthy or incredible about it, it's one of the most mundane things in the earth. Wether you get sex by whatever means is irrelevant, why this is better than a hooker you ask? At least there's a certain attraction, with a hooker most of the times they won't be attracted to you. and people need to feel validated, friends, family, spouse. Those things help a person feel good about themselves

 

[vermilion]

That's your own opinion, not an objective fact. Constant genuine love/sexual attraction from multiple women is the definition of ascension it doesn't matter what race they are.

There was a couple of Chadlites on this forum that's why I'm skeptical of users who make these types of threads.

Lastly, if you've never tried ethnic foids and won't then you are a standardcel/volcel.

Most people would argue that having sex with landwhales is not ascension.

Likewise, my point is that dating women below your race is not ascension either.

It's a hypothetical scenario, of course.

And if you can't have a family or fit in with the rest of society, is that really ascension?

Would you date a Black landwhale if you had the chance?

Guess you're a volcel then.

 

[Deleted member 41220]

Most people would argue that having sex with landwhales is not ascension.

Likewise, my point is that dating women below your race is not ascension either.

It's a hypothetical scenario, of course.

And if you can't have a family or fit in with the rest of society, is that really ascension?

Would you date a Black landwhale if you had the chance?

Guess you're a volcel

Bro beastiality =/= ascending ... this shit is ethically wrong and disgusting

 

[vermilion]

You're like the countless amount of ridiculous posters that think BlackPill is some kind of forbidden knowledge

You're not very smart or interesting either. No offense.

ascension is SEX

Disputable. Would you "ascend" with Black landwhales from the ghetto? Sure, you're not an incel anymore if you attract such women, but it's not ascension either.

Ascension is fitting in with the rest of society. Do average White men need to date down their race to fit in? No, because there's nothing off about them. That's my point.

and people need to feel validated, friends, family, spouse. Those things help a person feel good about themselves

Those things you've just mentioned are ascension. Moving to a third world country to have sex with ugly ethnic women is not, as you're abandoning race, culture and nationality for a piece of pussy.

 

[Undervalued]

You didn't disappoint me. You disappointed any firm believer of Just Be White. I'm merely pointing out that dating below our racial standards is not really ascension. If your sole purpose is to feel sexual pleasure, go and meet up with escorts. It's the same thing in the end of the day.

There is a reason why I believe in JBW.

Gentlemen, give it up for @itsOVER

He is gonna be father to a 3rd child from yet another foid. Truly a success story and a life and hope fuel for incels. a tinder slut he hooked up with now knocked up, another delusional self hating gook who thinks itsover gonna be a virtuous european father...only to get her ass ditched...

incels.is

A 4/10 turbomanlet white guy slays hard in SEA without money.

Most people would argue that having sex with landwhales is not ascension.

Likewise, my point is that dating women below your race is not ascension either.

It's a hypothetical scenario, of course.

And if you can't have a family or fit in with the rest of society, is that really ascension?

Would you date a Black landwhale if you had the chance?

Guess you're a volcel then.

You're straw-manning dude there are some solidly attractive ethnic women, of course, they aren't as attractive as some white women.

 

[vermilion]

There is a reason why I believe in JBW.

Tell him to move back to the UK and try his luck with the average women there.

He was a virgin until the age of 23 because he couldn't fit in with the rest of society. He resorted to travelling to a third world ghetto in order to score some ugly ethnic chicks. You proved my point. That's not ascension.

You're not ascending if you have to leave race, culture and nationality behind for some piece of pussy.

A 4/10 turbomanlet white guy slays hard in SEA without money.

That's your opinion; not an objective fact.

Hey, this is exactly how you talk. Funny, isn't it?

You're straw-manning dude there are some solidly attractive ethnic women, of course, they aren't as attractive as some white women.

Missed the point again, buddy.

 

[coping_manlet]

Depends on the ethnicity. Going to rural somolia and ascending with some half chimp lady who’s tits are saggier than a baggy of water is not true ascension.

however there’s some beaner and noodle Stacey’s I wouldn’t mind seeding

 

[MACHETE]

whitcel crying " i can get a woman , just not a white one"

whitecelz are a fucking joke

 

[vermilion]

whitcel crying " i can get a woman , just not a white one"

whitecelz are a fucking joke

I can get no woman. That's not my point either, by the way.

 

[oldcel75]

Where do we draw the line? A doctor who dates a nurse is also not ascending? A 140 iq dating 100?

 

[vermilion]

Where do we draw the line? A doctor who dates a nurse is also not ascending? A 140 iq dating 100?

Doctors and nurses belong to the same society. So do individuals with different IQs.

Races belong to different societies with distant cultures and genes.

Think of it this way: when you buy a new car, you're upgrading. When you buy an old car, you're downgrading. What kind of "ascension" makes you resort to categories below your level?

 

[Undervalued]

Tell him to move back to the UK and try his luck with the average women there.

He was a virgin until the age of 23 because he couldn't fit in with the rest of society. He resorted to travelling to a third world ghetto in order to score some ugly ethnic chicks. You proved my point. That's not ascension.

You're not ascending if you have to leave race, culture and nationality behind for some piece of pussy.


That's your opinion; not an objective fact.

Hey, this is exactly how you talk. Funny, isn't it?


Missed the point again, buddy.

Let's keep this civil I'm enjoying this conversation. 5'6 is turbomanlet tier what makes you think he didn't try in the UK with average women. You are projecting, I sincerely doubt he cares about his race, culture, and national identity so in his mind he is scoring. Also, his living conditions aren't a terrible transition for a 23-year-old virgin on a NEETbux (government welfare).

Ultimately, you can have your own opinion I'm not trying to bash you here I'm just giving you my perspective.

 

[vermilion]

Let's keep this civil I'm enjoying this conversation.

Fine.

5'6 is turbomanlet tier what makes you think he didn't try in the UK with average women.

He was an incel at the age of 23. Only lost his virginity in Southeast Asia because he couldn't fit in with the rest of society, otherwise he wouldn't feel the need to travel to a third world country in order to get laid in the first place. See what I meant? He didn't ascend; he downgraded. Crawled on his knees for a piece of ethnic pussy.

He's 5'7", by the way. And his looks have severely improved.

Reminder - if you've never been lean, you don't know wtf you look like and you can't claim to be deformed or recessed or any other BS (my pics inside)

A few things before we begin: 1) I'm not asking for ratings here, not the point of the thread. 2) I don't care if you mog me or I mog you. Again, not the point, broseph. 3) The point is to show, with pictures, that if you're a fatcel, skinnyfatcel, or simply have never been to low bodyfat...

looksmax.org

You are projecting, I sincerely doubt he cares about his race, culture, and national identity so in his mind he is scoring.

It's not ascension either way.

Did you know he travelled to Eastern Europe in search for better looking girls because, in his words, having Southeastern Asian girlfriends was depressing? Even he knew he downgraded.

Also, his living conditions aren't a terrible transition for a 23-year-old virgin on a NEETbux.

Ultimately, you can have your own opinion I'm not trying to bash you here I'm just giving you my perspective.

No, you said I'm not on the side of objective facts. Don't act friendly now. You tried to corner me and it didn't work. Come on, be passive-aggressive. I'm not scared of you.

 

[nice_try]

Moron tier thread.

Anybody who has been incel for long enough would not set such ridiculous standards, ever.
As an incel you're not in the position to set standards like this.
It's like a starving person refusing to eat because he only wants to eat premium kobe beef. It doesn't make sense at all and is completly moronic.

It is not ascension to give up on race and culture so as to get laid

Yes it is. Educate yourself and read the incel wiki, greycel.
Getting a girl (no matter what race) IS ASCENSION.

"ascending or ascension, means escaping inceldom, typically by forming a reciprocal romantic bond with someone."

Deincelization

Deincelization or deincelification, a.k.a ascending or ascension, means escaping inceldom, typically by forming a reciprocal romantic bond with someone. It is the...

incels.wiki

As a curry myself, I refuse to date sheboons.

Curries are below blacks, you're literally the lowest of the low, sorry bro.

 

[vermilion]

Moron tier thread.

I know you feel above everyone else for being an old school member on this forum, but my thread is far from moronic, as I pointed out some interesting things about this so-called "ascension", as you guys put it.

I don't expect you to be humble enough to admit that, though. You're a very confrontational person with an insufferable personality.

I note you're in your 30's so I have some empathy for the ongoing struggle. Keep it up.

Anybody who has been incel for long enough would not set such ridiculous standards, ever.
As an incel you're not in the position to set standards like this.
It's like a starving person refusing to eat because he only wants to eat premium kobe beef. It doesn't make sense at all and is completly moronic.

You can have sex with non-Whites. That does not mean you fit in with the rest of society. So it's not "ascension" as you guys put it.

A betabuxer might have sex with his post-wall hag, but that does not mean he has ascended. It's a fake ascension if you have to downgrade, get it?

 

[Undervalued]

Fine.


He was an incel at the age of 23. Only lost his virginity in Southeast Asia because he couldn't fit in with the rest of society, otherwise he wouldn't feel the need to travel to a third world country in order to get laid in the first place. See what I meant? He didn't ascend; he downgraded. Crawled on his knees for a piece of ethnic pussy.

He's 5'7", by the way. And his looks have severely improved.

Reminder - if you've never been lean, you don't know wtf you look like and you can't claim to be deformed or recessed or any other BS (my pics inside)

A few things before we begin: 1) I'm not asking for ratings here, not the point of the thread. 2) I don't care if you mog me or I mog you. Again, not the point, broseph. 3) The point is to show, with pictures, that if you're a fatcel, skinnyfatcel, or simply have never been to low bodyfat...

looksmax.org

It's not ascension either way.

Did you know he travelled to Eastern Europe in search for better looking girls because, in his words, having Southeastern Asian girlfriends was depressing? Even he knew he downgraded.


No, you said I'm not on the side of objective facts. Don't act friendly now. You tried to corner me and it didn't work. Come on, be passive-aggressive. I'm not scared of you.

Even a good face cannot save you at 5'7 in the UK. I predict he will fail in Eastern Europe if he tries again.

Objectively, ascension is getting non-paid sex/love from the opposite gender I'm still keeping my stance on that. Needless to say, you don't need to be scared of me this is an Incel forum my opinion shouldn't hold any weight.

Again, he isn't downgrading in anything except perhaps living standards. I now understand he may not have liked East Asian girls, but going from a virgin at 23 years old to having semi-regular sex can't possibly be classed as downgrading.

A similar example is a fat Tyrone, who doesn't like white girls but gets semi-regular sex with them having lost weight, do you think that isn't an ascension.

Wants =/= need argument basically. You think ascension is getting girls you want and I think ascension is getting semi-regular sex from any decently attractive girls.

 

[Undervalued]

@vermilion

The initial cost of his trip to SEA isn't crawling considering the many average dates normies have without guaranteed sex after.

 

[Deleted member 40767]

Statistically speaking, White women are the most desirable on the planet, hence everybody wants a piece of them.

yes your right this is based we all are competing for white women and if you as a white male have to go to another country to date a curry or noodlewhore then you have failed as a white man. Its not racist its simply the facts would you rather have a blond hair blue eyes white stacy or a darkskin black hair fat curry? the answer seems obvious

people only date down or date other races out of desperation not out of personality or some other bullshit

 

[nice_try]

I know you feel above everyone else for being an old school member on this forum

You think you know, but you don't. Because there are plenty of users around here that I respect very much and don't see myself above them at all. You're basically just making a false accusation about me here, which shows that you a disingenuous user.

as I pointed out some interesting things about this so-called "ascension", as you guys put it.

Interesting in your mind, maybe. For most of us, it's really not. For us, the term ascension means getting a gf and that's it. It's even written in the incel wiki like that. There is no need for your pseudo intellectual thesis of what ascension is, because every incel on this forum already knows what it is: Getting a gf / having [UWSL]consensual sex.[/UWSL]

[UWSL]Side note: I can already tell you're an infiltrator by how you try to change basic incel definitions and calling us "you guys". Lets hope moderators catch on quickly.[/UWSL]

You're a very confrontational person with an insufferable personality.

I'm not at all confrontational towards a large amount of good people on this forum.
So you're making a false accusation about me again here, which just shows that in fact you are the one with the insufferable personality.
I don't really know why you drag down the discussion to a personal level and make false claims about my personality when I did nothing to you except pointing out obvious illogics.

I note you're in your 30's so I have some empathy for the ongoing struggle. Keep it up.

I don't need your empathy, I'm doing very well for myself, probably better than you ever will, but thanks, I guess.

You can have sex with non-Whites. That does not mean you fit in with the rest of society. So it's not "ascension" as you guys put it.

I don't know in which society you live, but where I live you would fit in perfectly with dating a non-white girl, so your argument is completly pointless.

Most people would argue that having sex with landwhales is not ascension.

Likewise, my point is that dating women below your race is not ascension either.

You struggle to apply basic logic.
Having sex with a landwhale is not ascension, because a landWHALE doesn't resemble a human female. Hence the name landWHALE. A landwhale is basically a glob of fat that doesn't look like a human female and that can't take care of itself like a human female. A landwhale is not a human female, therefore it's not ascension.

Having sex with a women of a different race who looks good and takes care of herself is ascension because even if the race is different she's still a human female.

 

[MACHETE]

Doctors and nurses belong to the same society. So do individuals with different IQs.

Races belong to different societies with distant cultures and genes.

Think of it this way: when you buy a new car, you're upgrading. When you buy an old car, you're downgrading. What kind of "ascension" makes you resort to categories below your level?

You got no female whatsoever
Upgrade? You get some


Inceldom

Upgrade? You fuck a 6-7 ethnic beckie

 

[vermilion]

You think you know, but you don't.

Dude, I get it.

You have been banned from this forum once and spent your whole life being mistreated by people around you.

But that doesn't make it right to call other people moronic out of the blue.

You feel powerful and intimidating behind a keyboard, but that's just a projection of your real life insecurities.

By the way, the wiki you posted gave two different definitions of ascension, so that means definitions are disputable.

 

[vermilion]

High iq thread

JBW sadly does not apply to cumskin foids

In fact, I'd argue that white women have higher standards for their men than any other race of woman

Most white women are chad only, which leaves a lot of whitecels to rot. Tell us to go to SEA is retarded and should be a bannable offense tbh

A smart comment. Thanks.

 

[MACHETE]

>6/7
>becky

choose one nigger

No

 

[Undervalued]

yes your right this is based we all are competing for white women and if you as a white male have to go to another country to date a curry or noodlewhore then you have failed as a white man. Its not racist its simply the facts would you rather have a blond hair blue eyes white stacy or a darkskin black hair fat curry? the answer seems obvious

people only date down or date other races out of desperation not out of personality or some other bullshit

Why give such a ridiculous example? A SEA Stacy vs White Stacy are similar to most of us who got nothing from Western women. Someone who never had a long-term relationship shouldn't be holding such high standards you'd be shooting yourself in the foot. In fact, many of us would take facially ugly girls as we don't have the luxury of choice.

Using your logic a lifetime of Inceldom is preferable to having semi-regular sex with a skinny non-white girl. Increasingly, you don't have to leave the country to get ethnic girls due to the multi-cultural nature of Western countries. Physically attractive girls exist in all races.

 

[Deleted member 40767]

In fact, many of us would take facially ugly girls as we don't have the luxury of choice.

yes but Im just saying if your white and you cant get white girls you failed

if your ethnic and you can get white girls by definition you won

if your ethnic and you can get your ethnic looksmatch you won

 

[nice_try]

But that doesn't make it right to call other people moronic out of the blue.

You have to read more carefully then. Nowhere did I call you moronic, I wrote that the thread is moronic, following with an explanation of why I think that is.
Somehow you took that personally and dragged the discussion down to a personal level by insulting my personality.

You have been banned from this forum once and spent your whole life being mistreated by people around you.
You feel powerful and intimidating behind a keyboard, but that's just a projection of your real life insecurities.

You really have to stop making false assumptions about me and my life ... you look retarded doing that.
You have no idea who I am, what I do or how I feel, so why make these pointless accusations that are basically all wrong?
Why be so personal? What's your problem?

 

[Deleted member 40767]

Using your logic a lifetime of Inceldom is preferable to having semi-regular sex with a skinny non-white girl.

let me just tell you flat out Im racist I prefer white over any other shitskins even though I am a HAPPA and Im only half white

 

[vermilion]

Why be so personal? What's your problem?

My problem is: you're the only one who does that. Two or three members disagreed with me. Okay. But you were the only one jumping down my throat and calling my thread moronic. Calling me a greycel (basically pointing out my lack of status on the forum).

So let's say you acted in good faith. You came off as some passive-aggressive, arrogant cunt nonetheless so you might want to work on how you approach things, maybe? Or perhaps you're too good for that. You're too good to take other people's observations about you into consideration.

But that's it. That's just how you come off to me: as an arrogant asshole. Now you might want to work on that or not. It's up to you, man.

 

[nice_try]

Two or three members disagreed with me. Okay. But you were the only one jumping down my throat and calling my thread moronic. Calling me a greycel (basically pointing out my lack of status on the forum).

So let's say you acted in good faith. You came off as some passive-aggressive, arrogant cunt nonetheless so you might want to work on how you approach things, maybe?

Hm, I can see what you mean. I'm old and not used to people being offended so easiely on the internet but I guess you're right. I will try to tone it down a bit in the future. Thanks for the insight.

I still disagree with the thread and will gladly accept a cute asian girl as my gf

 

[kanyepilled]

@kanyepilled no wonder you’re here

honestly i just find brown women attractive

maybe it's conditioning but idc

 

[oldcel75]

Doctors and nurses belong to the same society. So do individuals with different IQs.

Races belong to different societies with distant cultures and genes.

An intelligent American have much more common with an intelligent Norwegian than with a white trash from the appalachies.

Think of it this way: when you buy a new car, you're upgrading. When you buy an old car, you're downgrading. What kind of "ascension" makes you resort to categories below your level?

I don't have a car. That's the issue. We are "carfree" people here. Even an old car is better than walking 10 miles to work, I'm upgrading from walking to a car.

 

[Undervalued]

Doctors and nurses belong to the same society. So do individuals with different IQs.

Races belong to different societies with distant cultures and genes.

Think of it this way: when you buy a new car, you're upgrading. When you buy an old car, you're downgrading. What kind of "ascension" makes you resort to categories below your level?

Many traditional races like ''Mongoloid'', ''Caucasoid'', ''Negroid'' have big internal divergences (Koreans vs Filipinos / Finns vs Greeks etc). It is never as simple as that.

 

[kanyepilled]

An intelligent American have much more common with an intelligent Norwegian than with a white trash from the appalachies.

intelligent white person has more in common with an intelligent white person than they do an unintelligent white person, unsurprisingly (an intelligent american could only be a white person)

 

[Cristo]

I feel the same. I would never accept anything other than a European foid.

 

[NoLooksNoLife]

As a rice myself, I refuse to date sheboons.