Blackpill Daily Reminder: Patriarchy doesn't change human nature. It controls it

[Uglyman]

Even if there was a patriarchical system and ugly subhumans like us were granted wives, we would still be incels. Why? Because:

1.We got married due to a specific societal conditioning that benefits unattractive males

2.We barely got only 1 femoid even with this subhuman friendly system. 1 is so close to 0.

3.Our wives would not be truly attracted to us. They would still crave better looking males and they will still want to slut around like degenerate whores.

In other words, patriarchy is a big cope. You are not truly winning. It is very evident that women can be attracted to men.

Look at all these happy couples walking around holding hands and doing PDA. You will never have that even with a patriarchical system. You will never have a girl feel legit attraction for you.

You can control her nature, opress her hypergmous and polyamorous instincts, but she will still want to be degenerate even if she can't. Its hardcoded in her brain, it can't be changed. Your marriage will be just play pretend.

 

[Jockcel]

We need to retake control of women before they do any more damage.

 

[incelgration]

Bullshit.

1.We got married due to a specific societal conditioning that benefits unattractive males
It benefits everybody: protects female from their own feral nature and from players who just wants use them for sex and discard.
It protects male as they get young not promiscuous wife (preferable virgin). It has been proven that wifes with low n-count rarely divorce their husbands. Now even Chads struggle to find quality girl for marriage.

2.We barely got only 1 femoid even with this subhuman friendly system. 1 is so close to 0.
I would be perfectly happy with 1 young, virgin women. I would be able to finally stop thinking about sex, how lonely I am and how fucked society is and able to do more important things that benefits society as a whole.

3.Our wives would not be truly attracted to us. They would still crave better looking males and they will still want to slut around like degenerate whores.
Not true - in patriarchy people looksmatch so you don't have to deal with 1-5 women who were fucked by thirsty 7-10 Chad and thinks she deserves alpha.

Moreover in patriarchy looks are not everything - women need to take into consideration her partner personality, and his potential status. Marrying handsome drug dealer would social suicide for her.

You can control her nature, opress her hypergmous and polyamorous instincts, but she will still want to be degenerate even if she can't. Its hardcoded in her brain, it can't be changed. Your marriage will be just play pretend.
People nature can and should be restrained. Without it society would just fall apart. Which is actually happening.

 

[Red Shambhala]

You can control her nature, opress her hypergmous and polyamorous instincts, but she will still want to be degenerate even if she can't. Its hardcoded in her brain, it can't be changed. Your marriage will be just play pretend.

Many of us here are immigrants ... and so I'm pretty sure that many of us know marriages between our parents and grandparents who weren't/aren't exactly that great. But it feels to me that these marriages are still more stable than the unstable lifestyle of incels and women stabbing each other in the back to get that one high-status Chad.

Also, forced monogamy favors equality of partners: with enforced monogamy women tend to get their looks match and their social status match. If her parents work are, say, working class active in restaurants and hotels or whatever, she will most probably get a man of a roughly similar social status.

As for people bonding with each other: I believe this is generally not as "romantic" as Hollywood has made people believe with people falling in love etc. If you fuck a woman a couple of times and make her pregnant, there will be a bond developing eventually. This is why forced marriages, contrary to Western stereotypes, are often reasonably happy.

The operative word in all of that is "reasonably" of course. Sure, it's not Hollywood but the alternatives are, for most people, worse.

 

[Uglyman]

Bullshit.

1.We got married due to a specific societal conditioning that benefits unattractive males
It benefits everybody: protects female from their own feral nature and from players who just wants use them for sex and discard.
It protects male as they get young not promiscuous wife (preferable virgin). It has been proven that wifes with low n-count rarely divorce their husbands. Now even Chads struggle to find quality girl for marriage.

2.We barely got only 1 femoid even with this subhuman friendly system. 1 is so close to 0.
I would be perfectly happy with 1 young, virgin women. I would be able to finally stop thinking about sex, how lonely I am and how fucked society is and able to do more important things that benefits society as a whole.

3.Our wives would not be truly attracted to us. They would still crave better looking males and they will still want to slut around like degenerate whores.
Not true - in patriarchy people looksmatch so you don't have to deal with 1-5 women who were fucked by thirsty 7-10 Chad and thinks she deserves alpha.

Moreover in patriarchy looks are not everything - women need to take into consideration her partner personality, and his potential status. Marrying handsome drug dealer would social suicide for her.

You can control her nature, opress her hypergmous and polyamorous instincts, but she will still want to be degenerate even if she can't. Its hardcoded in her brain, it can't be changed. Your marriage will be just play pretend.
People nature can and should be restrained. Without it society would just fall apart. Which is actually happening.

Society isn't falling apart. Lol at this cope. you feel that way because you are losing.

Women are hypergamous bey default. The whole looksmatching concept is told from your perspective. Women always felt looksmatched to chad. Even in the days of patriarchy, only the top 15% of males would be called attractive.

And you speak of marriage as in some form of a contract not a result of genouine attraction. In patriarchy, women would have to marry based on socioeconomical benefiting not on love. Marriage is reduced to a business deal AKA a cope.

 

[incelgration]

Society isn't falling apart. Lol at this cope. you feel that way because you are losing.
Currently in long term everyone is loosing: women as they ride cock carousel and then cannot find anybody to have children with, men as they cannot find quality wife. Family as basic unit of society is destroyed. Now you can "win" just short term pleasure if you are women or in top 20% men.

And you speak of marriage as in some form of a contract not a result of genouine attraction. In patriarchy, women would have to marry based on socioeconomical benefiting not on love. Marriage is reduced to a business deal AKA a cope.
And this is what marriage should be. Most advanced civilization has been build around this concept. Without patriarchy we just revert to fucking stone age.

 

[Uglyman]

Society isn't falling apart. Lol at this cope. you feel that way because you are losing.
Currently in long term everyone is loosing: women as they ride cock carousel and then cannot find anybody to have children with, men as they cannot find quality wife. Family as basic unit of society is destroyed. Now you can "win" just short term pleasure if you are women or in top 20% men.

And you speak of marriage as in some form of a contract not a result of genouine attraction. In patriarchy, women would have to marry based on socioeconomical benefiting not on love. Marriage is reduced to a business deal AKA a cope.
And this is what marriage should be. Most advanced civilization has been build around this concept. Without patriarchy we just revert to fucking stone age.

But short term pleasure is what we are meant for. Life is all about instant gratification. Women are perfectly happy riding the cock carousel and chads are happy to be part of it.

Marriage in religion was all about two people wanting to bond their lives together. Also, advanced civliazation was built on tremendous sacrifices from both men and women. Men died in wars, women sacrificed their freedom. Your advanced civilization is a product of pain.

 

[oldcel75]

Bullshit.
3.Our wives would not be truly attracted to us. They would still crave better looking males and they will still want to slut around like degenerate whores.
Not true - in patriarchy people looksmatch so you don't have to deal with 1-5 women who were fucked by thirsty 7-10 Chad and thinks she deserves alpha.

Why do you think that people were looksmatched? It was arranged marriages that were sometimes decided by the parents when the bride and groom were 6 months old or in other cases in according to 10000s reasons like social and business connections. People were paired in an artificial way and actually were locked into a marriage prison for 40 years with people they hate. I don't know from where are you, maybe you never saw a real trad patricalchal culture and how it works.

 

[incelgration]

I don't know from where are you, maybe you never saw a real trad patricalchal culture and how it works.

I lived in country where there were no prearranged marriages, but women and men has been tought to marry young and not be promiscuous. Sluts and spinsters were shamed.
Now it caught western disease and it is shit as everywhere else.
Also I know few Indian couples from prearranged marriages which are pretty happy. Of course it won't work in 100% cases but I think it is better than what we have now.

 

[oldcel75]

I lived in country where there were no prearranged marriages, but women and men has been tought to marry young and not be promiscuous. Sluts and spinsters were shamed.
Now it caught western disease and it is shit as everywhere else.

I guess it's USSR or other EE country in the era of communism. It was not patriarchal.
Sluts and spinsters were shamed, but it still existed in huge amounts, and the divorces sky-rocketed.

 

[incelgration]

I guess it's USSR or other EE country in the era of communism. It was not patriarchal.
Sluts and spinsters were shamed, but it still existed in huge amounts, and the divorces sky-rocketed.

Yes EE country but not in era of communism, but before. It was patriarchal thanks to church. Divorces were shamed and did skyrocketed only after adopting western lifestyle. Basically feminism is modern communism.

 

[DeepSea]

Why do you think that people were looksmatched? It was arranged marriages that were sometimes decided by the parents when the bride and groom were 6 months old or in other cases in according to 10000s reasons like social and business connections.

Arranged marriage is not the same as forced marriage. In a patriarchal society, women are usually allowed by their fathers to reject suitors that they dislike or hate. It is very rare for fathers to completely disregard their daughters' feelings or force them to marry against their will. Most fathers would never forcibly marry off their daughters because it obviously isn't in their interest to make them miserable.

People were paired in an artificial way and actually were locked into a marriage prison for 40 years with people they hate. I don't know from where are you, maybe you never saw a real trad patricalchal culture and how it works.

Research shows that even in today's world where women are constantly tempted by feminist degeneracy, the average level of marital satisfaction is the same in both arranged marriages and in love marriages. If the "marital-prison" situation was commonplace, arranged marriages would be less happy on average than love marriages. That just isn't the case. Most women are naturally passive and will happily settle for the best they can get if they're denied the opportunity to fornicate with Chads. Sure, women married to sub 8 men in a patriarchal society will still fantasize about Chad, but who cares? It's also common for men who are married to sub-4 women to fantasize about Stacy. If adultery is illegal and severely punished, the vast majority of women will never dare to act on their desires.

 

[oldcel75]

Arranged marriage is not the same as forced marriage. In a patriarchal society, women are usually allowed by their fathers to reject suitors that they dislike or hate. It is very rare for fathers to completely disregard their daughters' feelings or force them to marry against their will. Most fathers would never forcibly marry off their daughters because it obviously isn't in their interest to make them miserable.

Yes, they may be allowed to reject 1/10, but not a 3/10, because of the social pressure. The patriarch father did not give much weight to their daughters desires. In arab societies they are killing them with knifes.

Research shows that even in today's world where women are constantly tempted by feminist degeneracy, the average level of marital satisfaction is the same in both arranged marriages and in love marriages. If the "marital-prison" situation was commonplace, arranged marriages would be less happy on average than love marriages. That just isn't the case. Most women are naturally passive and will happily settle for the best they can get if they're denied the opportunity to fornicate with Chads. Sure, women married to sub 8 men in a patriarchal society will still fantasize about Chad, but who cares? It's also common for men who are married to sub-4 women to fantasize about Stacy. If adultery is illegal and severely punished, the vast majority of women will never dare to act on their desires.

Who cares? I care. I don't want to live with a woman that fantasize about other men. I'm not a cuck. She needs to love and desire only me.

 

[oldcel75]

So in other words you want a girl who's going to convincingly pretend to only love and desire you. Fortunately, girls have evolved to be capable of feigning that type of devotion.

No, I want her to actually love me. But since I'm not chad, there is no chance for it, so I will not get married.