Based Consent is a Meme

[Deleted member 35171]

Consent is when one person voluntarily agrees to the proposal or desires of another. Sexual consent is an agreement between participants to engage in sexual activity. Consent should be clearly and freely communicated.

There is no free will. Everything is deterministic. You either do have sex or you don't.
Humans, especially as children, are programmable robots. How society programs them forms the basis of their thought and actions thus their "free" will.

In a healthy society, women raised and educated since birth to see it their moral duty to have sex with their husbands and birth the new generation will "freely" submit and gladly fulfill their role. Everyone is happy.

In "liberal" "democracy" they are raised to be chad-only hypergamous degenerate whores, taught to use pussy privilege wherever applicable, exploit and monetize male loneliness for easy money, fuck a different chad every other weekend, end up as roastie 30yo whores only to find a betabuxx cuck to leech off of while they cheat on him with Steve from accounting. The ones who can afford to be single mothers (aka "strong" and "independent"} will find a chad to impregnate them. In the end neither non-chad men nor these "free" women will ever be truly satisfied.

In both societies women are "freely" making these choices. The only differences are the social programming and the outcome.

 

[BrettyBoy]

‘Consent’ is to keep undesired men being good little asexual boys while whores continue to take cock from desired men.

 

[Despondent Dreamer]

Well I agree with the title anyway, but I would say that the problem with consent could be summarized by calling it a selectively applied and arbitrary value, a value which even it's advocates dismiss whenever it suits them.

 

[Mainländer]

I've debunked the "consent" argument here (related to underage people at least) in the past, but my thread was reported by agecucks and deleted.

In a nutshel, if someone under age X is considered unable to consent, they're logically unable to consent with way more things than just sex/relationships, and adults still push a ton of those things onto them. So it's obviously not a matter of whether or not they're able to consent, but rather if the things pushed onto them are good for them or not.

And channeling a young sexually developed person's sexuality to a marriage instead of letting it free for fornication and adultery to happen is evidently something good and positive for society.

1 Timothy 5:14

King James Bible
I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.

 

[JoeBruhcel]

‘Consent’ is to keep undesired men being good little asexual boys while whores continue to take cock from desired men.

 

[Deleted member 36666]

Teens hate inkwels too, the point is kinda moot

 

[Deleted member 35171]

Teens hate inkwels too, the point is kinda moot

Those teens are also born in libcuck soyciety so YOUR point is moot.

Have you taken a time machine back a million years to when humans were hunter gatherers? did teens hate incels back then too? did incels even exist considering the fact that monogamy was heavily enforced in hunter gatherer societies?

Inceldom isn't a law of nature. It isn't natural for us to be incels. Inceldom is a direct result of this diseased liberal culture.

 

[wintersnow]

One of the lamest arguments I've seen in regards to the age of consent goes like this, "in case the age of consent was lower a 50-year-old man would prey on 14-year-old girls and nobody would say anything because it's legal".

This is ridiculous for several reasons. First of all, they use extremes to cause emotional impact. "A 50-year-old man with a 14-year-old girl? Oh my God, that's absurd". Despite the fact that 14-year-olds are not children and can perfectly consent, how many couples with that age difference would you expect to see daily? Not much since most couples that have a large age gap are somewhere in the 15-16 to 25-30 range.

Second of all, if a 50-year-old man had no consent to engage in a sexual relation with a 14-year-old girl, he would be considered a rapist. Not because she's 14, but because she said no. Note how this doesn't come down to age, but the act of forcing someone to do what they don't want.

 

[Deleted member 36666]

Those teens are also born in libcuck soyciety so YOUR point is moot.

Have you taken a time machine back a million years to when humans were hunter gatherers? did teens hate incels back then too? did incels even exist considering the fact that monogamy was heavily enforced in hunter gatherer societies?

Inceldom isn't a law of nature. It isn't natural for us to be incels. Inceldom is a direct result of this diseased liberal culture.

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of men never had any descendants, historically speaking, and it's not exclusive to humans

 

[Deleted member 35171]

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of men never had any descendants, historically speaking, and it's not exclusive to humans

Genetic data shows that phenomenon started with the rise of agriculture. Neither agriculture nor modern liberalism is our natural state.
Before that, there is a one to one ratio of male and female ancestors.

 

[GhostedPhantom]

Before that, there is a one to one ratio of male and female ancestors.

That seems wrong. The natural state of a lot of mammals is for the weakest males to die off either due to the environment or due to competing males (or in the case of humans - tribes) killing them. If I remember correctly, what happened at the advent of agriculture is that foids left their hunter gatherer men and flocked to the farmers, creating a bottleneck in the genetic lineage, but that shouldn't have continued happening after all people transitioned to agriculture.

 

[Deleted member 35171]

Here's the data:

If I remember correctly, what happened at the advent of agriculture is that foids left their hunter gatherer men and flocked to the farmers, creating a bottleneck in the genetic lineage, but that shouldn't have continued happening after all people transitioned to agriculture.

What actually happened was agriculture lead to the privatization of land leading to the rise of very powerful (male) landowners leading to a small minority of men monopolizing all the foids

 

[GhostedPhantom]

Here's the data:

Why do the two graphs show different data? Is the one on the left the number of men who have procreated and the one on the right - the number of women who have procreated?

What actually happened was agriculture lead to the privatization of land leading to the rise of very powerful (male) landowners leading to a small minority of men monopolizing all the foids

Yes, the naturally occurring hierarchical structure of large societies probably really is a reason for foids to be hoarded by fewer men, especially in the previous paradigm where foids were a commodity instead of being treated as if they're human beings.

 

[Deleted member 35171]

Why do the two graphs show different data? Is the one on the left the number of men who have procreated and the one on the right - the number of women who have procreated?

Yes. There is a one to one ratio until 8000 years ago.
It is estimated that agriculture was invented around 10,000 to 7000 years ago.

Yes, the naturally occurring hierarchical structure of large societies probably really is a reason for foids to be hoarded by fewer men, especially in the previous paradigm where foids were a commodity instead of being treated as if they're human beings.

Foids are a commodity even today, hoarded by a small minority of men. The reason you're incel is the very same reason why this rich chad can get away with raping 4 teens (and go on to fuck/impregnate even more)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/17/newyork-christopher-belter-rape-probation/

 

[GhostedPhantom]

Yes. There is a one to one ratio until 8000 years ago.
It is estimated that agriculture was invented around 10,000 to 7000 years ago.

The ratio was more like 1 man for every 3 women because the Y axes are scaled differently. It did take a huge hit after the advent of agriculture, although the ratio seems to have recovered for the most part.

Foids are a commodity even today, hoarded by a small minority of men. The reason you're incel is the very same reason why this rich chad can get away with raping 4 teens.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/17/newyork-christopher-belter-rape-probation/

Christopher may have raped 4 JBs and got away with it (although he is demonized as a result) but he isn't a Chad. An actual Chad would have consensual sex with twice as many and even if he raped them, he wouldn't be demonized as much as that. Nowadays it's Chad who hoards the most foids because foids are given the ability to choose whom to fuck and they don't care about money because they can earn their own.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

thread was reported by agecucks and deleted

we still have agecucks

 

[Deleted member 35171]

The ratio was more like 1 man for every 3 women because the Y axes are scaled differently. It did take a huge hit after the advent of agriculture, although the ratio seems to have recovered for the most part.

Overall throughout the course of human civilization (since about 10,000 years ago) the ratio has been 1 to 2.

But at the very starting point, where you see that huge dip in the male graph, at about 8000 years ago, the ratio was as bad as 17 women to only 1 man.
These rural local landowner warlords were literally swimming in pussy.

Christopher may have raped 4 JBs and got away with it (although he is demonized as a result) but he isn't a Chad. An actual Chad would have consensual sex with twice as many and even if he raped them, he wouldn't be demonized as much as that. Nowadays it's Chad who hoards the most foids because foids are given the ability to choose whom to fuck and they don't care about money because they can earn their own.

You should know better than this.
All sex can be considered rape or consensual depending on what the women will claim afterwards. In this case, since he was a rich kid, these women were salty he didn't commit and they made rape-ccusations to receive some kind of compensation.
I disagree that he wasn't a chad. He's very good looking, has mad money and is high status.

 

[BrettyBoy]

It’s mostly those types that are obsessed with ‘consent’.

 

[nystagmuscel]

‘Consent’ is to keep undesired men being good little asexual boys while whores continue to take cock from desired men.

 

[GhostedPhantom]

You should know better than this.
All sex can be considered rape or consensual depending on what the women will claim afterwards. In this case, since he was a rich kid, these women were salty he didn't commit and they made rape-ccusations to receive some kind of compensation.
I disagree that he wasn't a chad. He's very good looking, has mad money and is high status.

I wouldn't be surprised if the accusations are false like you said, as is usually the case.

He's a Chad only if he's tall enough and with a good frame to make up for his sub-Chad face. He does seem to be tall but still, foids would throw themselves at Chad for free without accusing him of anything.

 

[MentalistKebab]

Lmao, shitty argument. With a logic like this you can only make the point that you would be happy to live without a women if you were indoctrinated to it.

Cant stand to fascists (in literal definiton) and sociologs tbh ngl.

There are better arguments than simply claiming "we all are a result of our environment, thus everything would be fixed if we brainwashed kids from early age".

 

[Lonely4Ever]

There is no free will. Everything is deterministic. You either do have sex or you don't.
Humans, especially as children, are programmable robots. How society programs them forms the basis of their thought and actions thus their "free" will.

In a healthy society, women raised and educated since birth to see it their moral duty to have sex with their husbands and birth the new generation will "freely" submit and gladly fulfill their role. Everyone is happy.

In "liberal" "democracy" they are raised to be chad-only hypergamous degenerate whores, taught to use pussy privilege wherever applicable, exploit and monetize male loneliness for easy money, fuck a different chad every other weekend, end up as roastie 30yo whores only to find a betabuxx cuck to leech off of while they cheat on him with Steve from accounting. The ones who can afford to be single mothers (aka "strong" and "independent"} will find a chad to impregnate them. In the end neither non-chad men nor these "free" women will ever be truly satisfied.

In both societies women are "freely" making these choices. The only differences are the social programming and the outcome.

"Humans, especially as children, are programmable robots." Yes this is the real nightmare of IncelTears, the fact that Anyone can program a child... heeheehee So they make a bunch of shitty counter-arguments to make it unfathomable.

"In "liberal" "democracy" they are raised to be chad-only hypergamous degenerate whores, taught to use pussy privilege wherever applicable, exploit and monetize male loneliness for easy money, fuck a different chad every other weekend." This is why it's essentially impossible to be pro-west/America and simultaneously Blackpilled.

 

[FuRed]

Here's the data:

What actually happened was agriculture lead to the privatization of land leading to the rise of very powerful (male) landowners leading to a small minority of men monopolizing all the foids

No that isn't what happened idiot, what happened was warlords and warriors such as Ghenghis Khan slaughtered rival men by the thousands and sired children with dozens of even hundreds of women. For this reason something like 1 in 50 people on the planet can directly trace their blood back to Khan.

And if we went back to these times something tells me you wouldn't make the cut priest cel