Communism and Incels

[banabortionrapelegal]

Courtesy of Terrence McKenna: In the matriarchy-dominated epochs of pre-history, a tribe would convene for these lunar love festivals once a month when women were most fertile. Women wouldn't know who exactly impregnated them, but it didn't really matter because all men would contribute to the raising of all offspring. This set-up is contrasted with the patriarchy models of enforced monogamy we have today. Honestly, which is better for incels? I'd argue that incels do worse in an enforced monogamy configuration, as cucking becomes the default outcome and still not every man gets a woman. In the pre-history love fests where everyone fucks everyone else, cucking is taken as an a priori truth and there is no ego division between the incel and the Chad. He is just a man that bangs his fellow tribewoman as a natural right of being a tribe member.

You know what that means guys...It's time to go full commie.

 

[6'5incel]

gtfo communist pig

 

[BansBandit]

So chad can flip burgers and make the same wage as my decade long doctorate program? Then i cant even moneymaxx or statusmaxx

Fucking commies gas them all

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Wasnt the historical rates of having a child extremely low for ancient men? Like 1 in 20 or whatever?

This strongly contradicts hypergamy theory which is well supported.

 

[builderseed]

just be a bolshevik theory

 

[Yokoten]

So chad can flip burgers and make the same wage as my decade long doctorate program? Then i cant even moneymaxx or statusmaxx

Fucking commies gas them all

The true recipe for suicide.

 

[banabortionrapelegal]

You basically trade sexual access of your fellow tribe women in exchange for being a productive, upstanding member of the tribe.

 

[Not_Important]

Communists constantly preach about "women's liberation" and invented the concept of feminism.
I got kicked out of leftist subcircles for not conforming to their gynocentric views.
If you support communists, you don't belong here.

 

[banabortionrapelegal]

Wasnt the historical rates of having a child extremely low for ancient men? Like 1 in 20 or whatever?

This strongly contradicts hypergamy theory which is well supported.

I think during the crazy cataclysm 10,000 years ago they were able to map the genome and found that there were 17 women for every 1 man. It's like all the alphas built a Noah's ark, took all the fertile women and animals on board and let the betas drown.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

I think during the crazy cataclysm 10,000 years ago they were able to map the genome and found that there were 17 women for every 1 man. It's like all the alphas built a Noah's ark, took all the fertile women and animals on board and let the betas drown.

You just debunked your own thread.

 

[banabortionrapelegal]

There's also a Spartan element of self-improvement built into these ancient societies. They stoned deformed babies and shit so their people were more pure.

 

[Deleted member 1060]

What the fuck communism has to do with orgy? Mariana trench level low IQ post.

 

[banabortionrapelegal]

What the fuck communism has to do with orgy? Mariana trench level low IQ post.

It's a free love communist set-up. All the men share sexual access with all the women. Boundaries between incel and Chad, Becky and Stacy are eliminated.

 

[Deleted member 1060]

It's a free love communist set-up. All the men share sexual access with all the women. Boundaries between incel and Chad, Becky and Stacy are eliminated.

Why the fuck all these degenerates like terrence cuck-kena mixes up sex with socialism? wtf?

Communists constantly preach about "women's liberation" and invented the concept of feminism.
I got kicked out of leftist subcircles for not conforming to their gynocentric views.
If you support communists, you don't belong here.

Socialist concept of "women's liberation" means women need to work to get the fucking money. Also wage (rate) should be same for both men and women. And every fucking healthy adult needs to work (no beta bucks/sugardaddying). If women can't work as much as men, she will be paid less (i.e. accordingly). No fucking tutorial shit. It has nothing to do with whoring around and riding cocks.

Socialism has nothing to do with feminism, liberalism or multiculturalism. In fact, socialist economy is more strict than capitalist economy. Lookism (and degeneracy) is the direct byproduct of capitalist economy.

 

[banabortionrapelegal]

Why the fuck all these degenerates like terrence cuck-kena mixes up sex with socialism? wtf?

Would you agree that the status quo (enforced monogamy, cuckdom) is a losing game for incels to play? Why not submit to the matriarchy and at least have a chance at getting pity sex during an orgy?

 

[Deleted member 1060]

Would you agree that the status quo (enforced monogamy, cuckdom) is a losing game for incels to play? Why not submit to the matriarchy and at least have a chance at getting pity sex during an orgy?

Then that's some butt-fucking orgy cult, it's has nothing to do with socialist/communist economy. Yea sure I will join if you can arrange such group.

Are your from inceltears boyo? You are equating orgy with (((communism))) and trying to bait us? Did not work, go back to your shit-hole.

 

[Legionarivs]

Today unfortunately we don't have patriarchy anymore, when we had it every man could settle with a woman e build a family even if he was ugly. Matriarchy and more power to women can only increase submission and segregation for incels.

 

[Flabcel Repulsive]

OP is right there is not a one single way to conceptualize matriarchy.

I've always been surprised at anti-feminist people ranting on about "the matriarchy" like it would be this one thing and only could mean the rule of hypergamous feminism. It's a misused word, tbh.

It's on the contrary quite easy in fact to conceptualize a matriarchal system that's something like this huge German dominatrix establishment of towering bizarre ladies and leather masked groweling slaves, where all males are reduced to a plain level of equal sexual access, and hinges on this principle. It's probably the only way a matriarchal system could be self-sustainable in the long run, in fact.

Then that's some butt-fucking orgy cult, it's has nothing to do with socialist/communist economy. Yea sure I will join if you can arrange such group.

Such ideas actually predate Marx, who made socialism to be all about economic forces in a dialectic/historical context.

Is there an economy of material goods and is there a sexual economy? Sure there is. Ever read Charles Fourier? To people like him it was obvious there couldn't be material access egalitarianism without sexual access egalitarianism. (Note that we are not discussing the practical feasibilty of such ideas of utopian socialism here, only that there are precedents.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Fourier

 

[Eternaldarkness]

There was no incels in the Soviet Union tbh.

 

[leftyincel]

VERY few guys here would fare well with trad-con pariarchal shit, cuz first off most of us would be disqualified for being NEET or underemployed, maybe it'd help future generations, but not us

 

[randomguy1235]

Fucking commies gas them all

 

[Legionarivs]

There was no incels in the Soviet Union tbh.

Soviet Union was patriarchy as fuck, I don't know how this fake correlation between matriarchy and communism came out. Maybe they confused real socialism with the pro-feminism social democratic liberalism of (((Bernie Sanders))) and company lulz
Besides that, matriarchal societies are very weak: matriarchals proto-Europeans were destroyed and subjogated by patriarchal Indo-Europeans, and today only the few matriarchal societies that still survive are only some tribal clans of savages who have to buy medicines and stuff from First World countries just to survive haha

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Then that's some butt-fucking orgy cult, it's has nothing to do with socialist/communist economy. Yea sure I will join if you can arrange such group.

Nah in a certain way it has. He is talking about anarchoprimitivism, I guess, like executed by numerous southern american tribes today. It kinda works, at least on small scale and in a homogenous society.

So chad can flip burgers and make the same wage as my decade long doctorate program? Then i cant even moneymaxx or statusmaxx

Cope. Chad doesn't need it and women are still more attracted to him anyway. In a communist / socialist society you would get at least proper nutrition, healthcare, social status, surgeries and hormonescreening at a young age without wagecucking. You would get paid for your educational career as well and same wage for everyone is liberal propaganda anyway.

Soviet Union was patriarchy as fuck, I don't know how this fake correlation between matriarchy and communism came out. Maybe they confused real socialism with the pro-feminism social democratic liberalism of (((Bernie Sanders))) and company lulz
Besides that, matriarchal societies are very weak: matriarchals proto-Europeans were destroyed and subjogated by patriarchal Indo-Europeans, and today only the few matriarchal societies that still survive are only some tribal clans of savages who have to buy medicines and stuff from First World countries just to survive haha

WTF? SU was egalitarian. It was just as in Scandinavia today with women feeling comfortable in or used to their traditional roles and kept working in them.

You just debunked your own thread.

Maybe this was pre civilzed times though and his described type of society had still to evolve.

 

[YungCell]

gtfo communist pig

So chad can flip burgers and make the same wage as my decade long doctorate program? Then i cant even moneymaxx or statusmaxx

Fucking commies gas them all

Every commie legitametly should be shot dead if they believe that all humans should have the exact same assets despite how much they contribute to society.

IE: Genius Incel gets same wage and mentally retarded Chad.

 

[grimreaperec8]

A special report from caveman grug: genetic homogenization through breeding cults and moonlit orgies lead to two things;
One, grug of tribe observe suspicious number of longnose, dark, and weak babies. grug no like, grug become suspicious.
grug and friends kill off all males in tribe not look white, all longnose, all dark to ensure dumb orgy foids not make any mistake
Two, grug of tribe observe dramatic increase in strange rashes of genital regions among tribespeople. Grug put two and two.
After many moonless nights in deep sleep, grug get four. It female fault! female do some bad thing, still breed with wrong male.
Spirits angry! grug and friends convince female no more orgy, back to traditional mating ritual, mate for life.

 

[Deleted member 1060]

OP is right there is not a one single way to conceptualize matriarchy.

I've always been surprised at anti-feminist people ranting on about "the matriarchy" like it would be this one thing and only could mean the rule of hypergamous feminism. It's a misused word, tbh.

It's on the contrary quite easy in fact to conceptualize a matriarchal system that's something like this huge German dominatrix establishment of towering bizarre ladies and leather masked groweling slaves, where all males are reduced to a plain level of equal sexual access, and hinges on this principle. It's probably the only way a matriarchal system could be self-sustainable in the long run, in fact.




Such ideas actually predate Marx, who made socialism to be all about economic forces in a dialectic/historical context.

Is there an economy of material goods and is there a sexual economy? Sure there is. Ever read Charles Fourier? To people like him it was obvious there couldn't be material access egalitarianism without sexual access egalitarianism. (Note that we are not discussing the practical feasibilty of such ideas of utopian socialism here, only that there are precedents.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Fourier

Those libertarian socialist who equate sex with material goods are nothing but deluded impostors. Their main motive is "shagging pussy", all their narratives come from that goal. What they are trying to argue is like sex is a commodity just like a bike, so in a utopian socialist setting, if everyone has the right to access a bike (made by another person/party) then every one should have access to a pussy as well.

This is utter bs. A bike is a commodity because you need to put work and process raw materials to make a bike, and in return you get service from it (value). But a pussy is not. If you follow the same bs argument then I can argue that even a human being is a commodity, so I can swap myself with anyone else and claim that I actually did all the work that he did. Now give me my NEETbux.

Yes, I read some libertarian socialist crap, not from Fourier's, but yeah their arguments directly contradict the definition of commodity/goods and value of a commodity.

 

[Legionarivs]

WTF? SU was egalitarian. It was just as in Scandinavia today with women feeling comfortable in or used to their traditional roles and kept working in them.

Nope, women had just the same rights about work, in communist families the head of the house was always the man, unless he was dead or absent. The whole "Scandinavia" thing is just (((leftist))) propaganda to make real socialism look more like their shitty political agenda.
My father travelled in soviet Poland with friends in '70s-80's and he said me that there they were welcomed in the house of a Polish man who brutally beated his wife in front of them just because she cooked vegetables and not meat for dinner, making him look like poor in front of his new friends. If this isn't patriarchy, then I don't know what it is lulz

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Every commie legitametly should be shot dead if they believe that all humans should have the exact same assets despite how much they contribute to society.

IE: Genius Incel gets same wage and mentally retarded Chad.

He gets as much as he needs to lead a good life and develop himself. Money is a cope. Once your needs are covered you can cope as much as you want bur you won't become happier. Money would just be a bonus if surpluses are reached and not reinvested.
Communism is mainly about workspace democracy and avoiding the system to drift into oligarchy and wageslavery like right now.

Nope, women had just the same rights about work, in communist families the head of the house was always the man, unless he was dead or absent. The whole "Scandinavia" thing is just (((leftist))) propaganda to make real socialism look more like their shitty political agenda.
My father travelled in Poland with friends in '70s-80's and he said me that there they were welcomed in the house of a Polish man who brutally beated his wife in front of them just because she cooked vegetables and not meat for dinner, making him look like poor in front of his new friends. If this isn't patriarchy, then I don't know what it is lulz

Well, as we all now the SU had problems to unify everone under their political ideology, especially in Poland.

The endgoal of communism (including vanguard communism, socialism and anarchism) is a classless, stateless and moneyless society.

 

[Vodaccenu]

Let's seize the means of pussy

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Those libertarian socialist who equate sex with material goods are nothing but deluded impostors. Their main motive is "shagging pussy", all their narratives come from that goal. What they are trying to argue is like sex is a commodity just like a bike, so in a utopian socialist setting, if everyone has the right to access a bike (made by another person/party) then every one should have access to a pussy as well.

This is utter bs. A bike is a commodity because you need to put work and process raw materials to make a bike, and in return you get service from it (value). But a pussy is not. If you follow the same bs argument then I can argue that even a human being is a commodity, so I can swap myself with anyone else and claim that I actually did all the work that he did. Now give me my NEETbux.

Yes, I read some libertarian socialist crap, not from Fourier's, but yeah their arguments directly contradict the definition of commodity/goods and value of a commodity.

Well not all libertarian socialists are the same. It is an umbrella term.

 

[Deleted member 1060]

Nah in a certain way it has. He is talking about anarchoprimitivism, I guess, like executed by numerous southern american tribes today. It kinda works, at least on small scale and in a homogenous society.

Yes, there are many tribal societies that practice those kind of stuffs. I think that's why they still live in the stone age, may be butt-fucking-anarchist-orgy is applicable to small and primitive society who even did not developed the sense of "ownership" yet. But it's not going to work on a group of people went through multiple phases of urban civilization.

 

[Legionarivs]

Well, as we all now the SU had problems to unify everone under their political ideology, especially in Poland.

However this patriarchal mentality was and is well spreaded in all Eastern European countries that were under Soviet rule, in my opinion is not a coincidence if feminism and shit like that spreaded a lot in Western capitalist countries, while having a very little diffusion in communist and ex-communist countries.
However I'm not a commie as I said, more in the Fascist field.

 

[Deleted member 1060]

Every commie legitametly should be shot dead if they believe that all humans should have the exact same assets despite how much they contribute to society.

IE: Genius Incel gets same wage and mentally retarded Chad.

No commie believes that all human should have the exact same assets despite how much contribute to the society, you are talking about utopian communism, this is a theoretical "idea", that's why it's called "utopian".

Read about "scientific socialism".

Well not all libertarian socialists are the same. It is an umbrella term.

May be, what I tried to mean was socialism has nothing to do with butt-fucking-massive-orgy, these two are completely unrelated.

Yes, you can still have a butt-fucking-massive-orgy in a socialist economy (if the culture/law allows) as just like in a capitalist economy. The only difference would be in a capitalist country you might need to buy a ticket to join but in the other case you won't.

 

[YungCell]

He gets as much as he needs to lead a good life and develop himself. Money is a cope. Once your needs are covered you can cope as much as you want bur you won't become happier. Money would just be a bonus if surpluses are reached and not reinvested.
Communism is mainly about workspace democracy and avoiding the system to drift into oligarchy and wageslavery like right now.

Well, as we all now the SU had problems to unify everone under their political ideology, especially in Poland.

The endgoal of communism (including vanguard communism, socialism and anarchism) is a classless, stateless and moneyless society.

Literally living is a cope, I want to cope as much as I want with the money I earn, it's bad enough taxes help Stacys and Chad's but under commuinism they would always have as much money as me ontop of having there looks. That type of society sounds like a hell where we are all identical worker slaves, I know individuality is a cope but I will keep mine until I die and go back to the greater consciousness.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Literally living is a cope, I want to cope as much as I want with the money I earn, it's bad enough taxes help Stacys and Chad's but under commuinism they would always have as much money as me ontop of having there looks. That type of society sounds like a hell where we are all identical worker slaves, I know individuality is a cope but I will keep mine until I die and go back to the greater consciousness.

But it doesn't work and it won't make you happier or why do you think people try to rake in more and more? According to newest studies at 70000$ it's over. Society would be much more stable if money would be fairly distributed to begin with and you wouldn't have to wageslave that much as you would earn the full value of your labor without the elite talking the surplus. Taxes help everyone (in theory, government is currently cucked, so yeah). The benefit of a more efficient economy and less propagation of consumerism would result in more free time and money overall as well.
As it's a trying to achieve a classless society you would have to get compensated for your bad looks as much as possible and get tax founded treatment and hormone screening at a young age. In some scoial democratic countries there are already state paid prostitutes for disabled people. Could be an option for oldcels.

Socialism is honestly the best thing for incels (for all) imho, but people are far to manipulated anyway. So it probably won't happen in our lifetime, if ever, looking at the current rate oligarchic facism is taking over. But it does no harm to be informed and maybe some things can be achieved, at least something. Worker rights etc didn't develop out of thin air as well.

 

[oldcel75]

There was no incels in the Soviet Union tbh.

Because during ww2 (ВОВ) a whole generation of alpha males was wiped out.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

What the fuck communism has to do with orgy? Mariana trench level low IQ post.

CommieTears cucks GTFO! The Kingdom of Incelabad is a republican monarchy with AnCap tendencies... It's legal to rape anyone with pink hair in my kingdom...

 

[Deleted member 1060]

Literally living is a cope, I want to cope as much as I want with the money I earn, it's bad enough taxes help Stacys and Chad's but under commuinism they would always have as much money as me ontop of having there looks. That type of society sounds like a hell where we are all identical worker slaves, I know individuality is a cope but I will keep mine until I die and go back to the greater consciousness.

If we had an ideal communist society, dating, sex, looks won't be used as a commodity/capital, marriage now is a form of "business" in the west. There won't be any porn, club, bar, prostitute, makeup, IG, FB, validations, designer clothes, all kind of stuffs that support degeneracy. Degeneracy basically is a system of money making machine, it fuels the sex/look/vanity based capitalist economy. Degeneracy is the direct by product of capitalist system.

US and western europe had heavily injected degeneracy into the soviet youth that lead to distrust in their system and eventually collapsed (there were also other factors but degeneracy is one of them). West german porns, films, magazines, fashion were one of the many reasons of the fall of Berlin wall. South korean kpoop and soap opera encourages north korean women to defect. Just watch some interviews of those defectors, they unironically mention south korean soap opera. There are millions of ukranian whores now migrated to dubai working as a prostitute, which was unbelievable during the soviet era.

Just look at the history.

Women in soviet union:

Russian whores now:

 

[BornAnUglyMale]

Average men not being able to get sex regularly (and chads getting all the chicks) isn’t based on their efforts or the notion of “opportunity of outcome.”
It’s literally based on looks.

The whole “associate commies with incels” is a psyop used by monarchist groups right now to tarnish the image of the left. They are literally using us as guinea pigs.

 

[KingChemist]

 

[banabortionrapelegal]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

If women stayed in the kitchen instead of chasing those dollaz, they would get piped down better.

 

[Legionarivs]

I have just read a foid (or a cuck) who wrote in IT that USSR was not patriarchal but "feminist and stuff" just because there abortion was legal and women had right to vote. Well, but who were the head of the houses there? Men.
And who occupied ALL the key roles in army, government and Communist Party in every Soviet country? Still men :^).
Then always about communism, who said that mass immigration was bad because it led to the creation of an "industrial reserve army" that help capitalists to mantain a low salary for workers? Marx and Engels.
Who said also that homosexuality is a "bourgeois vice"? Always Marx and Engels.
And who wrote that feminism was wrong because it was only divisive for the working class? Lenin.
Rose Luxemburg was even kicked out from the International for that lulz
And who sent (((trotskists))) and gays to gulag? Stalin.
Today "communist" libertarian radical chics don't get at all that in USSR, or in every communist country, they would be sent to gulag or death penalty.

 

[jerrycan dan]

How much do you wanna bet the shit OP is talking about never happened, and archeologists with no evidence except for old skeletons who think Europe was some moon-worshiping matriarchy in prehistoric times are just talking out of their asses? Imagine genuinely believing cavewomen weren't begging to be subordinate to Ug Thundercock in 12,000 BC.

 

[banabortionrapelegal]

How much do you wanna bet the shit OP is talking about never happened, and archeologists with no evidence except for old skeletons who think Europe was some moon-worshiping matriarchy in prehistoric times are just talking out of their asses? Imagine genuinely believing cavewomen weren't begging to be subordinate to Ug Thundercock in 12,000 BC.

Perhaps they were begging for Ug Thundercock, but uncertain paternity is basically the only tool women have to corral male aggression. If there's a 10% chance the baby just born in your tribe is your DNA, you're a lot less likely to kill it than if you were 100% certain you weren't the father. That doesn't necessarily mean that women will spread their pussy around evenly, but a large enough percentage of men have to have skin in the game in order to not go apeshit. Put in other terms, roving bands of unattached males are a lot more likely to sow chaos in a given tribe. Women collectively reign in male aggression via uncertain paternity. The same male aggression that causes war allows for patriarchy to build civilization. It's like oxygen. You need to it breathe but its technically poison that slowly kills you over 75-100 years. Damned double edged swords.

 

[VST]

Communist females will just get us to slave away 80h+ per week while they have orgies with Chads.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

@Legionarivs
Feminism didn't spread because communism had an already established non toxic rational form of it. Sure not everone has probably embraced it and yes mentalities don't change in a blink and the structural realities carry over even after political changes. Don't forget half of the military aparatus stemmed from tsarist times and without social engineering chances are most people will just stay in the traditional trodden pathes. A lot of officials later weren't probably even communist just careerists or quiet oppositionists as well. You can't purge "wrongthink", no matter how much a Stalin wished.

I think this has moslty to do with local differences. From my experience older russian women I met were pretty much emancipated (and quite bossy on top towards their husbands, tbh ), as far as I could tell. I also saw historical accounts of this gender relation. Could have been idelaized intellectual narrative though.

Scandinavia was just a current example for women staying in certain fields, no matter if it is biological, conditioned or structural and not for socialism per se.

Gays were commonly seen as ill in these times or as some kind or late roman decadence by the left. But that changed after Marx as well.

You can critcize immigration for different reason and have different solutions for the same "problem".

Stalin was just a paranoid dick at that point tbh. No idea what Trotzky has to do with this topic. I don't think he plan to establish the todays feminist extremist form in capitalist countries at his time.

Just because it is dividing the working class doesn't mean they thougt it is wrong per se. It was just a tactical focus. No war but the classwar, ehh? Bourgeois feminism was is a liberal movement anyway.

The internationale was basically dead, she wasn't kicked out. Just take a look at the fucking spd at that time and still today.

Todays non larping communist are pretty much true to the core ideals imho. Political maldevelopments in the twentiest century are subject to discussion.

@chudur-budur
Do you remember the thread with the link to a reddit post, where I think it was an anthropologist or psychologist argued, that rape is basically a social construct? In a late stage communist society sex could be decommodified through education akin to these native communities, if this is true. Just a theoretical idea.

 

[VisVoi]

I would much rather remain an incel than embrace communism or matriarchy.

 

[Deleted member 1060]

[USER=1060]@chudur-budur
Do you remember the thread with the link to a reddit post, where I think it was an anthropologist or psychologist argued, that rape is basically a social construct? In a late stage communist society sex could be decommodified through education akin to these native communities, if this is true. Just a theoretical idea.

No, I am not aware of such stuff, looks like an interesting read. I am not a big fan of rape though. Do you have any link?

 

[inklingPro 1980]

So chad can flip burgers and make the same wage as my decade long doctorate program? Then i cant even moneymaxx or statusmaxx

Fucking commies gas them all

I support UBI. So obviously I support some level of socialism. I don't think sane people want fast food workers to make big money. Living wage yes. But you're taking it way out there.

But it doesn't work and it won't make you happier or why do you think people try to rake in more and more? According to newest studies at 70000$ it's over. Society would be much more stable if money would be fairly distributed to begin with and you wouldn't have to wageslave that much as you would earn the full value of your labor without the elite talking the surplus. Taxes help everyone (in theory, government is currently cucked, so yeah). The benefit of a more efficient economy and less propagation of consumerism would result in more free time and money overall as well.
As it's a trying to achieve a classless society you would have to get compensated for your bad looks as much as possible and get tax founded treatment and hormone screening at a young age. In some scoial democratic countries there are already state paid prostitutes for disabled people. Could be an option for oldcels.

Socialism is honestly the best thing for incels (for all) imho, but people are far to manipulated anyway. So it probably won't happen in our lifetime, if ever, looking at the current rate oligarchic facism is taking over. But it does no harm to be informed and maybe some things can be achieved, at least something. Worker rights etc didn't develop out of thin air as well.

Hey. So you support ubi too. I see it as a coming necessity. It's going to be ubi or a dysphoric nightmare.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

No, I am not aware of such stuff, looks like an interesting read. I am not a big fan of rape though. Do you have any link?

https://incels.is/threads/trauma-from-rape-is-a-social-construct.60135/

I support UBI. So obviously I support some level of socialism. I don't think sane people want fast food workers to make big money. Living wage yes. But you're taking it easy out there.

UBI has nothing to do with socialism. It doesn't solve the underlying inherent problems of capitalism.

I would much rather remain an incel than embrace communism or matriarchy.

I can only recommend you to look more into it. Sounds dumb at first, but it is the only political system that makes sense in the long run.