Toxic Femininity Common fallacies feminists use against men

[buried_alive]

As we all know feminism is all about manipulating society to get even more advantages to women while destroying men's lives. Here are some fallacies they commonly use:

• Apex fallacy: using men at the top, which are a minority, as a basis to define how men's lives are, while conveniently forgetting that most men have awful lives, much worse than women;
• Cherry picking: choosing specific facts to drive feminism while the reality is completely different. This is used on statistics, people and just about anything that could give them and advantage;
• Motte and bailey fallacy: using a reasonable and moderate points to drive an extremist one. A very famous one is "Feminism helps men too.", meanwhile feminist politicians are passing laws that screw men;
• No true scotsman: this is when they try to "exclude" the more radical feminists from their movement to gain support. When some feminist says "kill all men!" others will say "she's not a real feminist";
• Strawman: misrepresenting the opposing argument to easily dismantle it. Telling a feminist you don't support feminism will most likely get a response, like "why do you hate?". The truth is that being against feminism doesn't necessarily mean you hate women;
• Ad hominem: attacking the person instead of the person's argument to discredit it and dismiss it. "Shut up, incel!".

Feminism uses many more fallacies and manipulation tactics than these, but these seem the most common. The movement is entirely based and dependent on twisting the truth, lying, and refusing to accept criticism.

 

[Govid_Dorious]

 

[Tarquinius]

The movement is entirely based and dependent on twisting the truth, lying, and refusing to accept criticism.

This. Good thread.

 

[Govid_Dorious]

worth a must-read

 

[Indari]

top 10 classic woman moments

 

[buried_alive]

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[Govid_Dorious]

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tag the jannies

 

[buried_alive]

Could you sticky this thread? @PPEcel @proudweeb

 

[Namtriz912]

I like how concise this is! Thank you for this post

 

[mlcurrycel]

worth a must-read

 

[mlcurrycel]

As we all know feminism is all about manipulating society to get even more advantages to women while destroying men's lives. Here are some fallacies they commonly use:

• Apex fallacy: using men at the top, which are a minority, as a basis to define how men's lives are, while conveniently forgetting that most men have awful lives, much worse than women;
• Cherry picking: choosing specific facts to drive feminism while the reality is completely different. This is used on statistics, people and just about anything that could give them and advantage;
• Motte and bailey fallacy: using a reasonable and moderate points to drive an extremist one. A very famous one is "Feminism helps men too.", meanwhile feminist politicians are passing laws that screw men;
• No true scotsman: this is when they try to "exclude" the more radical feminists from their movement to gain support. When some feminist says "kill all men!" others will say "she's not a real feminist";
• Strawman: misrepresenting the opposing argument to easily dismantle it. Telling a feminist you don't support feminism will most likely get a response, like "why do you hate?". The truth is that being against feminism doesn't necessarily mean you hate women;
• Ad hominem: attacking the person instead of the person's argument to discredit it and dismiss it. "Shut up, incel!".

Feminism uses many more fallacies and manipulation tactics than these, but these seem the most common. The movement is entirely based and dependent on twisting the truth, lying, and refusing to accept criticism.

I learnt about motte and bailey from the famous Radicalising the Romanceless blog post. It's incredibly applicable to how feminists argue. "Toxic Masculinity" is the most egregious example.

 

[PersonalityChimp]

High IQ

 

[Govid_Dorious]

worth a must-read

Could you sticky this thread? @PPEcel @proudweeb

I like how concise this is! Thank you for this post

This. Good thread.

@PPEcel @proudweeb

 

[AsakuraHao]

also this

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuGLJPKY1oc

 

[Incedel]

I learnt about motte and bailey from the famous Radicalising the Romanceless blog post. It's incredibly applicable to how feminists argue. "Toxic Masculinity" is the most egregious example.

exactly the use the pretense that they are attacking negative aspect of masculinity when in reality the goal is demonize masculinity itself as toxic, which is why all leftist man are soyboy faggots

 

[mlcurrycel]

exactly the use the pretense that they are attacking negative aspect of masculinity when in reality the goal is demonize masculinity itself as toxic, which is why all leftist man are soyboy faggots

Shaming men into being controlled
Feminists have replaced tradcons.
"Positive Masculinity" has replaced chivalry (being a workhorse and guard dog)
"Toxic Masculinity" has replaced the Christian admonishment of pride and praise of submisiveness and forgiveness
"Listen and Believe" has replaced "faith in God"
At least the religious believe in monogamy, no matter how weakly. Paternalism over women is better than "allyship" under women.

I used to be a traditional Christian, and then a radical feminist. I'm dissatisfied with both.

 

[Incedel]

Shaming men into being controlled
Feminists have replaced tradcons.
"Positive Masculinity" has replaced chivalry (being a workhorse and guard dog)
"Toxic Masculinity" has replaced the Christian admonishment of pride and praise of submisiveness and forgiveness
"Listen and Believe" has replaced "faith in God"
At least the religious believe in monogamy, no matter how weakly. Paternalism over women is better than "allyship" under women.

I used to be a traditional Christian, and then a radical feminist. I'm dissatisfied with both.

Yeah, reeks of slave morality, where virtue and subservience to the cause are one and the same, but at least with religion you get something out of it like no whores but with feminism you just lose

 

[mlcurrycel]

Yeah, reeks of slave morality, where virtue and subservience to the cause are one and the same, but at least with religion you get something out of it like no whores but with feminism you just lose

tbh Christianity has too much forgiveness to control hypergamy and pre-marital sex.
I'm ignorant on Islam but I believe either four male eye witnesses or evidence such as a baby is required to prosecute pre-marital sex.
We need something new.

 

[Incedel]

tbh Christianity has too much forgiveness to control hypergamy and pre-marital sex.
I'm ignorant on Islam but I believe either four male eye witnesses or evidence such as a baby is required to prosecute pre-marital sex.
We need something new.

I'm sure old christianity were more strict, there were always whores in low class areas in giant cities (first phase globohomo) but more rural areas were pretty strick about slamming sluts. Islam in some areas are very strict but the pressure the west is putting out is getting them to change slowly, we at least still have FGM to limit hypergamy, but they can still own property which sucks, honesly if america and the west started to fail it would really hamper the spread of feminism and allow a new male based systems to start rising again.

 

[mlcurrycel]

I'm sure old christianity were more strict, there were always whores in low class areas in giant cities (first phase globohomo) but more rural areas were pretty strick about slamming sluts. Islam in some areas are very strict but the pressure the west is putting out is getting them to change slowly, we at least still have FGM to limit hypergamy, but they can still own property which sucks, honesly if america and the west started to fail it would really hamper the spread of feminism and allow a new male based systems to start rising again.

If America started to fail? It's on it's deathbed.
We need to revive patriarchy harder than Ancient Rome. Grow in the shadows and wait for the other shoe to drop.

 

[Balding Subhuman]

Faulty generalization: assuming that because men are more violent overall, men also must be more violent with their wives and girlfriends than women with their boyfriends and husbands. Studies show that women are actually more violent towards their partners than men. Studies have showed that women are also more violent towards children and elderly people than men.

 

[buried_alive]

I learnt about motte and bailey from the famous Radicalising the Romanceless blog post. It's incredibly applicable to how feminists argue. "Toxic Masculinity" is the most egregious example.

What a brutal article. And it's from 2014. The shitshow of misandry has only intensified since then. Here's the link to it: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/

 

[buried_alive]

Faulty generalization: assuming that because men are more violent overall, men also must be more violent with their wives and girlfriends than women with their boyfriends and husbands. Studies show that women are actually more violent towards their partners than men. Studies have showed that women are also more violent towards children and elderly people than men.

Based and a really common fallacy too. It can be applies to almost everything feminists say about men, like "All men are rapists".

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

worth a must-read

 

[Govid_Dorious]

@Intellau_Celistic

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

@Intellau_Celistic

View: https://vocaroo.com/1cxdOchJJ2pq

 

[proudweeb]

Could you sticky this thread? @PPEcel @proudweeb

 

[ezio6]

Title should’ve been “common fallacy WOMEN use against men”

Very water basic blackpill knowledge tbh

 

[mlcurrycel]

Faulty generalization: assuming that because men are more violent overall, men also must be more violent with their wives and girlfriends than women with their boyfriends and husbands. Studies show that women are actually more violent towards their partners than men. Studies have showed that women are also more violent towards children and elderly people than men.

Men are violent to other men to impress women

Nearly all non-reciprocal domestic violence is female on male

 

[mlcurrycel]

Title should’ve been “common fallacy WOMEN use against men”

Very water basic blackpill knowledge tbh

It's important to hydrate any newcels

 

[based_meme]

View: https://vocaroo.com/1cxdOchJJ2pq

I had no idea you were a tranny.

 

[JestER]

Good morning

 

[Michael15651]

Good morning

 

[Fallenleaves]

View: https://vocaroo.com/1cxdOchJJ2pq

Preach it brother.

 

[D.R.]

Apex fallacy: using men at the top, which are a minority, as a basis to define how men's lives are, while conveniently forgetting that most men have awful lives, much worse than women;

They look at the minority of chad males that they feel raw sexual desire towards and because average and below average males are also called men, they think they're guilty by association, I think that's what a lot of feminism is as well, they get pumped and dumped by chad, now they want to let out their frustration on males below them in the sexual hierarchy. Alpha chad is privileged, so therefore we're somehow all privileged assholes and our lives should be ruined.

Chad fucked her in the ass and dumped her, but she won't confront a dominant chad, she's going to let her frustrations out on some average beta and tell him to stop watching evil misogynistic porn (depicting things that chad did to her asshole), he's also a man so he must be a privileged piece of shit!

 

[cvh1991]

As we all know feminism is all about manipulating society to get even more advantages to women while destroying men's lives. Here are some fallacies they commonly use:

• Apex fallacy: using men at the top, which are a minority, as a basis to define how men's lives are, while conveniently forgetting that most men have awful lives, much worse than women;
• Cherry picking: choosing specific facts to drive feminism while the reality is completely different. This is used on statistics, people and just about anything that could give them and advantage;
• Motte and bailey fallacy: using a reasonable and moderate points to drive an extremist one. A very famous one is "Feminism helps men too.", meanwhile feminist politicians are passing laws that screw men;
• No true scotsman: this is when they try to "exclude" the more radical feminists from their movement to gain support. When some feminist says "kill all men!" others will say "she's not a real feminist";
• Strawman: misrepresenting the opposing argument to easily dismantle it. Telling a feminist you don't support feminism will most likely get a response, like "why do you hate?". The truth is that being against feminism doesn't necessarily mean you hate women;
• Ad hominem: attacking the person instead of the person's argument to discredit it and dismiss it. "Shut up, incel!".

Feminism uses many more fallacies and manipulation tactics than these, but these seem the most common. The movement is entirely based and dependent on twisting the truth, lying, and refusing to accept criticism.

Good post/well explained. You’re right I’ve seen this countless times.

 

[buried_alive]

They look at the minority of chad males that they feel raw sexual desire towards and because average and below average males are also called men, they think they're guilty by association, I think that's what a lot of feminism is as well, they get pumped and dumped by chad, now they want to let out their frustration on males below them in the sexual hierarchy. Alpha chad is privileged, so therefore we're somehow all privileged assholes and our lives should be ruined.

Correct. Apex fallacy is the base of feminism. It wouldn't exist without it.


I'd like to add another fallacy, the False dilemma: if you're against feminism you don't support gender equality.