codecels what do you code for?

[Billowel]

thinking of trying to learn programming(i am low iq but still),but i am honestly worried about the ethics side of it.What do you guys code for?
@DepravedAndDeprived

i know you have read uncle ted works.you think working in programming is dangerous in terms of ethics?

 

[incelerated]

I've never had a coding job I just do it as a hobby.

How can it be unethical btw?

 

[based_meme]

thinking of trying to learn programming(i am low iq but still),but i am honestly worried about the ethics side of it.What do you guys code for?
@DepravedAndDeprived

Mostly code maintenance and debugging for enterprise software (in-house programs companies/organizations would use for their tasks). I'm like the middle man between the front end and the back end. Boring and tedious, but mostly simple. An AI could probably do what I do, but then I'd do something else anyway if it could.

i know you have read uncle ted works.you think working in programming is dangerous in terms of ethics?

It depends on the kind of software you are trying to create.

Pretty much. Writing C++ code for missile fire control systems that bomb third world villages? Unethical. Writing Java code to build Android apps like MyFitnessPal? Perfectly ethical. (Just don't create another society-degrading app like tinder.)

 

[Billowel]

Mostly code maintenance and debugging for enterprise software (in-house programs companies/organizations would use for their tasks). I'm like the middle man between the front end and the back end. Boring and tedious, but mostly simple. An AI could probably do what I do, but then I'd do something else anyway if it could.



Pretty much. Writing C++ code for missile fire control systems that bomb third world villages? Unethical. Writing Java code to build Android apps like MyFitnessPal? Perfectly ethical. (Just don't create another society-degrading app like tinder.)

i am curious about coding,as it seems to be one of the few jobs you can do from home.I just don't want to somehow end up working on some degenerate shit show.

i am low iq,so there is that too.

sorry man,but could you give me some examples of what i will most likely encounter as a codecel? if it's mostly possibly degenerate and ethically questionable or wrong, i won't really consider doing it.

It depends on the kind of software you are trying to create.

can you explain more brocel?

 

[based_meme]

i am curious about coding,as it seems to be one of the few jobs you can do from home.I just don't want to somehow end up working on some degenerate shit show.

i am low iq,so there is that too.

sorry man,but could you give me some examples of what i will most likely encounter as a codecel? if it's mostly possibly degenerate and ethically questionable or wrong, i won't really consider doing it.

That's the wonderful thing about software. It can be about anything, just like when you write in spoken language. The industry is very broad.

The part that most people find challenging is the idea of abstracting something, then writing the code for that thing. All code is just writing a series of sequential instructions. Let's suppose that you want to create a program (a well-defined set of instructions) for a human to do a particular task or set of tasks. In real life we call that a job. The "program" is the list of tasks and the training (code functions) you get for how things are around the workplace (algorithms).

But let's say that you want to create those same tasks for the same job, but simulated in a digital environment (video game, is a good example). You would be required to create well-defined space of objects and functions that interact with each other and carry out the tasks.

Let's say that the entire job in question is the following:

"Carry the boxes that arrive in the truck in the back of the warehouse and put them on the shelves inside the warehouse. Use the roller tray for unloading the boxes from the truck. When you place them on the shelf use this sticker gun to number them."

Merchandiser is the name of program for the human job of stocking shelves. The above is the actual program written in plain English.

If you were asked to create a program that simulated this, how do you think you would go about doing it?

Well, there's a formal and structured way of doing that. You would pick a programming paradigm that would be best for completing the task at hand (object-oriented would arguably be best here), then you would design the code and plan how everything would work and how the pieces would come together, and then finally you pick a language, IDE, and framework you're familiar with to write it out. That's where things like design patterns and good code practices come in.

The concepts of programming are easy to learn. Variables, functions, loops, logic (if statements, conditionals), objects, recursion, pointers etc. It's how you use them that differentiates a good programmer from a mediocre one from a bad one.

About the ethics, that's factored in when you look at the intent of the software. You can write code for pacemakers to save lives, or you can write code to crash hospital systems and cause the deaths of people.

 

[Billowel]

That's the wonderful thing about software. It can be about anything, just like when you write in spoken language. The industry is very broad.

The part that most people find challenging is the idea of abstracting something, then writing the code for that thing. All code is just writing a series of sequential instructions. Let's suppose that you want to create a program (a well-defined set of instructions) for a human to do a particular task or set of tasks. In real life we call that a job. The "program" is the list of tasks and the training (code functions) you get for how things are around the workplace (algorithms).

But let's say that you want to create those same tasks for the same job, but simulated in a digital environment (video game, is a good example). You would be required to create well-defined space of objects and functions that interact with each other and carry out the tasks.

Let's say that the entire job in question is the following:

"Carry the boxes that arrive in the truck in the back of the warehouse and put them on the shelves inside the warehouse. Use the roller tray for unloading the boxes from the truck. When you place them on the shelf use this sticker gun to number them."

Merchandiser is the name of program for the human job of stocking shelves. The above is the actual program written in plain English.

If you were asked to create a program that simulated this, how do you think you would go about doing it?

Well, there's a formal and structured way of doing that. You would pick a programming paradigm that would be best for completing the task at hand (object-oriented would arguably be best here), then you would design the code and plan how everything would work and how the pieces would come together, and then finally you pick a language, IDE, and framework you're familiar with to write it out. That's where things like design patterns and good code practices come in.

The concepts of programming are easy to learn. Variables, functions, loops, logic (if statements, conditionals), objects, recursion, pointers etc. It's how you use them that differentiates a good programmer from a mediocre one from a bad one.

About the ethics, that's factored in when you look at the intent of the software. You can write code for pacemakers to save lives, or you can write code to crash hospital systems and cause the deaths of people.

you think it's possible for me as man who wants to follows christ and be a christrian without staining himself in sin,to be able to work and have a decent selection of jobs that don't involve me selling my soul to sin? i don't know the jobmarket or what most people are trying to write program for(every facet of society uses some type of software at this point),and i am afraid of not being able to get jobs because most are questionable.

sorry if my question sounds stupid,i just want to know what i am getting into.

 

[based_meme]

you think it's possible for me as man who wants to follows christ and be a christrian without staining himself in sin,to be able to work and have a decent selection of jobs that don't involve me selling my soul to sin? i don't know the jobmarket or what most people are trying to write program for(every facet of society uses some type of software at this point),and i am afraid of not being able to get jobs because most are questionable.

sorry if my question sounds stupid,i just want to know what i am getting into.

BRUH

Just fucking learn programming and how to write code, and then decide for yourself if this is unethical for you to do. Think of it like writing. You first learn how to write, and then you decide what to write. You can write blasphemous things, or you can write things that help bring people closer to God, to use your domain subject.

I'm going to give you some tough love here and tell you that if you were unable to get the general gist of what I said in my last post, specifically the analogy of writing and also how/when ethics is applied, then you will have a very tough time programming and probably shouldn't do it in a professional capacity.

I know how to drive, write, and fight, but that doesn't mean that I should become a race car driver, a novelist, or a prize fighter, respectively. It's the same with coding. You can learn to code, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to be a software developer. (Did you understand the three examples? All three are professions, but the fundamentals of what they do can be learned without becoming a professional.)

 

[Billowel]

BRUH

Just fucking learn programming and how to write code, and then decide for yourself if this is unethical for you to do. Think of it like writing. You first learn how to write, and then you decide what to write. You can write blasphemous things, or you can write things that help bring people closer to God, to use your domain subject.

I'm going to give you some tough love here and tell you that if you were unable to get the general gist of what I said in my last post, specifically the analogy of writing and also how/when ethics is applied, then you will have a very tough time programming and probably shouldn't do it in a professional capacity.

I know how to drive, write, and fight, but that doesn't mean that I should become a race car driver, a novelist, or a prize fighter, respectively. It's the same with coding. You can learn to code, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to be a software developer. (Did you understand the three examples? All three are professions, but the fundamentals of what they do can be learned without becoming a professional.)

i am stupid,but i don't think my stupidity is interfering with our conversation.i was just asking if the market is heavily oriented towards degeneracy,and you seem to think that it is so open as a field,that you can just programn a time machine to save the world if it's necessary and get paid for it massively.

i don't even know what caused you to stress so much but whatever.

 

[based_meme]

i am stupid,but i don't think my stupidity is interfering with our conversation.

I didn't say that it was interfering, but yes, I was implying that you might not be smart enough for it. No offence, brocel.

I'm not nearly tall enough to play professional basketball. If I asked somebody over the internet if I can make it in the NBA or other leagues and they learned that I was 5'5", they would tell me to focus on other things.

i was just asking if the market is heavily oriented towards degeneracy,and you seem to think that it is so open as a field,that you can just programn a time machine to save the world if it's necessary and get paid for it massively.

I don't know. How do you quantify degeneracy, especially in a field of work? The porn industry is degenerate, but that's by design and even then it's hard to precisely quantify its degeneracy. Is a gangbang scene more or less degenerate than a 1-on-1 blowjob scene? More? How much more? Less? How much less? The same? How do you figure?

What does it mean to be "heavily oriented towards degeneracy"? Do you mean if they're actively encouraging developers to write software that promotes degeneracy? If so, then it depends on the jobs within the industry. The video game industry is getting over-the-top woke and infested with liberal SJW faggotry. We see it quite regularly in big AAA titles.

i don't even know what caused you to stress so much but whatever.

I wasn't stressed. What gives you that idea?

 

[based_meme]

I steal bash scripts from github and modify them to do shitty tasks i have to do.

WTF, nigger? You scrapped your post count too? Is this supposed to be a cool new .is trend?

 

[racoon4]

Writing C++ code for missile fire control systems that bomb third world villages? Unethical

it's perfectly ethical if they're bombing niggers

 

[Angry_runt]

Everything I can get paid for, I'm not picky.

When I don't have paying clients, then it's games.

 

[based_meme]

What are you talking about? i'm a new user.

 

[Billowel]

I didn't say that it was interfering, but yes, I was implying that you might not be smart enough for it. No offence, brocel.

I'm not nearly tall enough to play professional basketball. If I asked somebody over the internet if I can make it in the NBA or other leagues and they learned that I was 5'5", they would tell me to focus on other things.


I don't know. How do you quantify degeneracy, especially in a field of work? The porn industry is degenerate, but that's by design and even then it's hard to precisely quantify its degeneracy. Is a gangbang scene more or less degenerate than a 1-on-1 blowjob scene? More? How much more? Less? How much less? The same? How do you figure?

What does it mean to be "heavily oriented towards degeneracy"? Do you mean if they're actively encouraging developers to write software that promotes degeneracy? If so, then it depends on the jobs within the industry. The video game industry is getting over-the-top woke and infested with liberal SJW faggotry. We see it quite regularly in big AAA titles.


I wasn't stressed. What gives you that idea?

neh man,i am fine with being recommended to do something else,you just seemed stressed in your posts.i mean i doubt i could do coding,as i have been trash at maths continuously ,but eitherway,programming is something to consider,especially as an incel. anyway,won't bother you anymore.

 

[based_meme]

neh man,i am fine with being recommended to do something else,you just seemed stressed in your posts.

I'm honestly not stressed.

What keeps giving you the impression that I am? It's just my personality (KEK). In real life I hardly feel stress.

i mean i doubt i could do coding,as i have been trash at maths continuously ,but eitherway,programming is something to consider,especially as an incel.

You don't need to be good at math to do programming. You need to be good at logic. 99% of programming is nothing more complex than basic arithmetic.

You need math for computer science, however. The only times you need math for programming is when you're building programs or tools for mathematicians/statisticians, scientists and engineers. And that's going to be advanced math. You need to understand the mathematical functions and how to call them from a built-in library.

The following is a great source to get an idea of the math:

https://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/spr10/cos433/mathcs.pdf

This book is for algorithms and is more advanced:

Download "Algorithms: A Top-Down Approach"

Note that you'll practically never use the math above in your day to day programming.

anyway,won't bother you anymore.

You're not bothering me. If you were, I'd tell you to fuck off.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

It's how you use them that differentiates a good programmer from a mediocre one from a bad one.

*whistles and walks away*

you think it's possible for me as man who wants to follows christ and be a christrian without staining himself in sin,to be able to work and have a decent selection of jobs that don't involve me selling my soul to sin? i don't know the jobmarket or what most people are trying to write program for(every facet of society uses some type of software at this point),and i am afraid of not being able to get jobs because most are questionable.

sorry if my question sounds stupid,i just want to know what i am getting into.

Just learn to code, apply for jobs, and research the companies you apply at ahead of time to see if they're unethical to you. That's literally all you have to do. XYZ company you feel has unethical policies or an unethical CEO, but ABC company does not? Apply at ABC, forget about XYZ.

 

[based_meme]

*whistles and walks away*

Yeah, I know it's a touchy subject. I won't argue with you.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

Yeah, I know it's a touchy subject. I won't argue with you.

Oh, I just meant I'm one of the bad ones, or at most mediocre, because I don't know how to use the concepts I've learned.

 

[based_meme]

Oh, I just meant I'm one of the bad ones, or at most mediocre, because I don't know how to use the concepts I've learned.

Oh, OK. What makes for good or bad programmers is a sensitive subject, and programmers tend to be a neurotic bunch (not me, I couldn't give a shit, just make the code readable).

 

[bigantennaemay1]

Oh, OK. What makes for good or bad programmers is a sensitive subject, and programmers tend to be a neurotic bunch

Yeah, so I've noticed.

not me, I couldn't give a shit, just make the code readable

Well, if anything, the shit I write is pretty readable, I think. At least, back when I had co-workers, and not just the committee of managers I seem to have today, they were able to follow it all just fine, for the most part.

 

[lemon21]

I code to get a job someday, somehow. No matter how unlikely that may seem

 

[DepravedAndDeprived]

Yeah if you do something with programming you'll typically have some sort of corporate job. Many of them develop software. This software could be for anything in principle: logistics, medicine, marketing, finance, webdev, etc. It's a very broad field so the nature of the work varies wildly, ranging from braindead low-salary webdev to intellectual senior engineers earning six figures.

As for morality, personally I think any and all desk jobs are dystopian. I took the Ted-pill and my desire to get out of this world has been growing stronger. Personally, I see computer science as an intermediate step in life; I ended up in it because I was very good at math and it makes a good buck, but I hope to prepare myself to transition to a more physical job and a more independent, nature-oriented lifestyle.

Unless I kill myself of course.

 

[Lebensmüder]

I code mostly for data analysis.
I just don't like Excel at all & that's why I use Python & R.
You can learn that shit easily - there are many tutorials online.
And if you want to try something out there are example data sets out there.
Like ToothGrowth & IrisFlower.
Apart from that I used to do it for making websites, but I never took one online.
Maybe I will look into Image Analysis in the near future.
Prior to this I made small shit like timers & others - which made life more easy for me.
I am not good in it tbh.

 

[Billowel]

Yeah if you do something with programming you'll typically have some sort of corporate job. Many of them develop software. This software could be for anything in principle: logistics, medicine, marketing, finance, webdev, etc. It's a very broad field so the nature of the work varies wildly, ranging from braindead low-salary webdev to intellectual senior engineers earning six figures.

As for morality, personally I think any and all desk jobs are dystopian. I took the Ted-pill and my desire to get out of this world has been growing stronger. Personally, I see computer science as an intermediate step in life; I ended up in it because I was very good at math and it makes a good buck, but I hope to prepare myself to transition to a more physical job and a more independent, nature-oriented lifestyle.

Unless I kill myself of course.

>logistics, medicine, marketing, finance, webdev

man that seems like hell.sounds like oiling up the machine so more rich fuckers can fuck us more efficiently.I suppose there are programming jobs that aren't as dystopian,but it sounds like hell.medicine looks okay,but considering how much corruption there is in medicine,i have to wonder how much a programmer contributes to it.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

>logistics, medicine, marketing, finance, webdev

man that seems like hell.sounds like oiling up the machine so more rich fuckers can fuck us more efficiently.I suppose there are programming jobs that aren't as dystopian,but it sounds like hell.medicine looks okay,but considering how much corruption there is in medicine,i have to wonder how much a programmer contributes to it.

every job under the sun has some sin in it. You should just volunteer and donate to charity to wash off your sins when you feel guilty.

 

[DepravedAndDeprived]

man that seems like hell.sounds like oiling up the machine so more rich fuckers can fuck us more efficiently.I suppose there are programming jobs that aren't as dystopian,but it sounds like hell.medicine looks okay,but considering how much corruption there is in medicine,i have to wonder how much a programmer contributes to it.

Yes bro. There's a small minority that does legitimately cool stuff without any dystopian application in mind, but your odds are against you.

In terms of medicine, I think you'd be surprised how much relies on programmers and computer scientists. Protein modeling and medical imaging would be two examples of fields where there's many exciting developments waiting to happen.

 

[based_meme]

In terms of medicine, I think you'd be surprised how much relies on programmers and computer scientists. Protein modeling and medical imaging would be two examples of fields where there's many exciting developments waiting to happen.

Biomed engineering is a rapidly growing field, but in order to be working on things like protein modeling, you need a lot of background in biology and chemistry. That shit is complex. That's not domain knowledge your average programmer typically has in stock coming in.

You could do a lot of peripheral and device programming for their machines without necessarily needing domain knowledge.

 

[Billowel]

Yes bro. There's a small minority that does legitimately cool stuff without any dystopian application in mind, but your odds are against you.

In terms of medicine, I think you'd be surprised how much relies on programmers and computer scientists. Protein modeling and medical imaging would be two examples of fields where there's many exciting developments waiting to happen.

i suppose i shouldn't think much about programming then. programming doesn't sound bad,but i want to follow christ,and i don't want to wake up everyday asking myself if what i am doing is right. i will think a bit more about it,but yeah.

 

[Babica Yaga]

protein modeling, you need a lot of background in biology and chemistry. That shit is complex.

Molecular modeling field is actually not that complex.. unless you're doing some advanced quantum shit. You will need to be familiar with statistics/machine learning though, as this seems to be the trend nowadays. However with the plethora of free resources/tutorials and MOOCs these days it's doable for most people I reckon, provided you're motivated enough and have enough spare time

 

[based_meme]

Molecular modeling field is actually not that complex.. unless you're doing some advanced quantum shit. You will need to be familiar with statistics/machine learning though, as this seems to be the trend nowadays. However with the plethora of free resources/tutorials and MOOCs these days it's doable for most people I reckon, provided you're motivated enough and have enough spare time

MOOCs for protein modeling and biomed specializations or ML? I'm guessing you meant ML.

 

[Babica Yaga]

MOOCs for protein modeling and biomed specializations or ML? I'm guessing you meant ML.

Pretty sure there are online courses for bioinformatics/mm? Wouldn't know personally of any to recommend since I did uni courses. Like a few years ago when I first started getting interested in ML I did the original Stanford ML course by Andrew Ng.

I mean you won't become an expert unless you really dig deep into the math, but you don't need that much math to start applying given the abundance of easy to use lbiraries available in Python/R

 

[based_meme]

Pretty sure there are online courses for bioinformatics/mm? Wouldn't know personally of any to recommend since I did uni courses. Like a few years ago when I first started getting interested in ML I did the original Stanford ML course by Andrew Ng.

I mean you won't become an expert unless you really dig deep into the math, but you don't need that much math to start applying given the abundance of easy to use lbiraries available in Python/R

I hope those bioinformatics courses aren't like those CS MSc programs for arts students.

My interest in the subject is honestly not that great enough for me to consider a career shift, tbh. It's just a cursory curiosity.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

Pleasure and problem-solving, of-course.

Skill Languages;

• TorqueScript
• Lua(CodeChef)
• C(CodeChef)
• Perl(CodeChef)
• Excel Formulas(School Course)
• JavaScript(CoderByte + CodeChef)
• XML/AIML(Slightly)
• HTML/CSS(Slightly)
• Assembly(Slightly)
• Visual Basic(Slightly)
• GDScript(Slightly)
• XSE-Script(As a young child; Slightly)
• Batch(As a young child)

(He also toyed with Python, C++, Haskell, LISP, C#, SQLite)

As a Blasian with NLD(Brain lesion), his PIQ is lower than that of the full-Asian Matthew, his fellow programme

(He only used JSON" once or twice)

(Matthew and Ashley were more invested in networking than he was)

His own "progress":

(Incomplete)

(Incomplete)

(Incomplete)

(Most of his solutions were lost when my school-issued laptop malfunctioned)

Sadly, he hasn't programmed regularly in many years. Observe:

The "racepill" accelerated his mental illnesses and ruined any chances of him finishing his objectives...

Yes. 2016 was much different. He spent hours sitting alone in his room with bottles of urine and sacks of feces because of severe depression/anxiety. He was barely eating and suffering from visual sensory overload/paranoia, which often caused him to curdle into a ball and cry. He received little help for these problems.

His attempt to revive his career ended quickly:

And of-course, his Repl repositories were cleared in 2020 for "No Reason"..

 

[MenDokeSey]

Pleasure and problem-solving, of-course.

Skill Languages;

• TorqueScript
• Lua(CodeChef)
• C(CodeChef)
• Perl(CodeChef)
• Excel Formulas(School Course)
• JavaScript(CoderByte + CodeChef)
• XML/AIML(Slightly)
• HTML/CSS(Slightly)
• Assembly(Slightly)
• Visual Basic(Slightly)
• GDScript(Slightly)
• XSE-Script(As a young child; Slightly)
• Batch(As a young child)

looking for a mentee?

 

[Hubert]

codecels please use your coding skills to help the incel cause.... go cybER

 

[MACHETE]

Yeah if you do something with programming you'll typically have some sort of corporate job. Many of them develop software. This software could be for anything in principle: logistics, medicine, marketing, finance, webdev, etc. It's a very broad field so the nature of the work varies wildly, ranging from braindead low-salary webdev to intellectual senior engineers earning six figures.

As for morality, personally I think any and all desk jobs are dystopian. I took the Ted-pill and my desire to get out of this world has been growing stronger. Personally, I see computer science as an intermediate step in life; I ended up in it because I was very good at math and it makes a good buck, but I hope to prepare myself to transition to a more physical job and a more independent, nature-oriented lifestyle.

Unless I kill myself of course.

smoke weed play guitar

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

looking for a mentee?

No. I am not as I was years ago. Also, I'm not equipped to teach anyone at this time.

Try StackExchange.

Or this site:

Home - GameDev.net

GameDev.net is your resource for game development with forums, tutorials, blogs, projects, portfolios, news, and more.

www.gamedev.net

 

[KRIMZNT]

Leetcode

 

[Billowel]

Pretty much this



Don't even worry about ethics. Companies don't need free thinkers, they need wage slaves to fix/maintain their mountain of perpetually broken shit.

You don't need to be smart to do this just as you don't need to be smart to learn to speak a language.

Recommend SQL database querying, data warehousing etc.

You still need a degree or some kind of online certification.

i am catholic.i am not going to sin just so i can get some money from home.i am a great sinner but i don't want my situation to get worse.

 

[CrackingYs]

i am catholic.i am not going to sin just so i can get some money from home.i am a great sinner but i don't want my situation to get worse.

I have bad news for you, any job will require you to do unpleasant things so your boss and/or the shareholders (jews) will profit from your labor. It doesn't matter if you do programming, or sales, or accounting, or hard labor. We all serve the almighty jew.