I disagree with you on that one. "Men" are desperate enough (due to hypergamy) to message a 68yo on tinder because they have no other or very limited options. Sure, high T might be a factor but this grannyfish is the absolute bottom of the barrel. Most of these could do better, but it doesn't mean that they don't have to put in any effort whatsoever (I also did chadfish experiments), which is probably the main reason why they message her. Even chads get ghosted on a regular basis as soon as he says or does something, which displeases muh kween. Holes have the upper hand in the dating market and real abundance of attention unlike redpill copers who just have an abundance mindset (jfl). Additionally, whoremaxxing is demonized in this cucked and gynocentric soyciety and these guys unironically believe that fucking this abomination is more dignified and manly than fucking attractive whores. Imagine we lived in a society where whoremaxxing isn't stigmatized at all and whores are easily accessible and cheap: Do you really think that any of these guys would even consider messaging creatures like that? I don't think so. However, the reasons why we're witnessing this behavior nowadays are irrelevant because the results of this behavior are what's relevant to us. Like I said earlier in this thread, if this granny receives this much attention from clearly attractive guys, how do you think the inbox of an average looking hole looks like? How can men, such as ourselves, even compete with these guys for a chubby 68yo granny, let alone young, non-obese and slightly unattractive girls. It's so fucking over.