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Why did Joseph stay with Mary after she cheated on him?
You're a joker.
Why do some Christians js crash out and mope around when u wanna argue with them (I am Christian myself but I cant wrap my head around that ppl can't accept other interpretations than their own or that's being regurgitated on social media)
For evangelicals/charismatics: how do you deal with the youth and historical obscurity of your theology?
For Catholics/orthodox: how do you truly believe that your church is "the one true church"? Does such a thing even exist? To what extent is the true church (is an eastern orthodox saved and an oriental orthodox damned?)
For Catholics/orthodox: how do you truly believe that your church is "the one true church"? Does such a thing even exist? To what extent is the true church (is an eastern orthodox saved and an oriental orthodox damned?)
depends on what kind of Christian they are. If they're more Protestant they'll probably align themselves with Martin Luther and wherever the word sticks is where the word sticks. Whereas the traditional Christians are probably more open to discussion and they refer back to the saints or church fathers
I'm not evangelical so this might not help but typically the youth are quite uneducated and they lack a lot of theology.
When I've gone to a bible study at an evangelical church out of a couple of them, did actually have some sound theology, but an Evangelical church is basically a social club for youth people
So just to clarify I'm a Pentecostal but I've been to both a Catholic church and an Orthodox church.
From my understanding I'd say the Orthodox church is the one true church because again you've got the Great Schism and the Catholic people believe in the papacy.
Along with that if you look at Martin Luther, he never condemned the Orthodox Church. He actually wanted them to work with Martin Luther so a lot of the conflicts between the Orthodox and Catholics, that's their own battle.
The Orthodox doesn't have a battle. You see it's the oldest church. It's been the church that's been preserved for the past two thousand years and it's the one that's been continuing to do what they are doing for the past 2,000 years. You still have things like the Apocrypha.
Realistically this is a separate battle. If you ask the Eastern Orthodox they would say that they were the one true church but if you ask the Catholics they'll also say that we're the one true church. It's just what's based on history but the traditional churches do respect themselves more, like in conflict, than they do respect the Protestants
Once again when it comes to Orthodox, to be ordained you should be baptized, partake in communion, and partake in the sacraments, including confession. That's when you are saved. Your works don't save you; you are being saved. Since Christ knows their heart, he knows when people will turn away and who won't. No one knows so everyone is an Orthodox Christian and you only are an Orthodox Christian when you leave the church indefinitely
Do you hate sluts?
I don't have any questions. I just wanted to say I despise Jews and Muslisms but I respect Christians.
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First, what is your opinion on the book of Enoch? Do you believe the angels really did marry the girls, and formed the 10ft giants that were in the promise land? Or do you believe the book of Enoch was not included in the bible as many stories were false - possibly including this one?
Second, what is your opinion on the Apocrypha? I believe that it was not included in the bible for similar reasons to the book of Enoch, and that man had gone against Gods thoughts when writing, and included his own.
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Second, what is your opinion on the Apocrypha? I believe that it was not included in the bible for similar reasons to the book of Enoch, and that man had gone against Gods thoughts when writing, and included his own.
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I think they are worth reading but are not reliable or consistent enough to be in the standard Bible. Enoch is mostly metaphorical.
How many gods do you worship?
How does it feel to be subservient lapdogs for the Jews?
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Is that a website URL or just a group?
Just our group
I want to purchase the domain and make something out of it though
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Why did your nigger god die to sacrifice himself and save us and himself from himself?
How do Christcels reconcile their religion with the blackpill? It seems very ironic to adhere to a belief system that suggests “all men were created equal” when we know well that some people are born more blessed than others
How can you say Jesus rose from the dead when their was no witnesses other than Paul who didnt actually witness it and saw it in a vision instead while claiming 500 witnesses saw him rise when we dont have any witness statement from any of them, and also how can you call the gospels after the apostles when they didnt write it and instead its anonymous writers?
There is no such thing as the Book of Enoch. It is created by Satan to confuse Christians
That being said I don't know much about the book of Enoch. All the information I have gotten is from my past and my youth pastor
But once again the Book of Enoch doesn't really account for what was happening. I don't think it's canon. I think the church fathers were right with not including that one
I'm very glad you asked me this because I've been looking into traditional Christianity and there's a thing called the Martin Luther Dilemma.
If you speak with the majority of traditional Christians, they'll know about this and they'll teach you about this
If you are not aware of the Martin Luther dilemma, it's basically stating that Martin Luther wanted to go back to the original canon of the Jews, which is what we have now but the Apocrypha was compiled by the church fathers.
Again I don't have to give you a lore history on Martin Luther unless you don't know, but he was a Catholic and he wasn't happy with. I hate
when traditional Christians say that he removed seven books. He didn't; he was just taking them out of his Catholic Bible. He already recommended that they weren't part of the original canon that the Jews used so why should we have them? But then later he used a book writing "The Jews and their lies" and basically that book inspired the National Socialists/nazi party
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but Martin Luther never went against the Orthodox Church. He had a problem with the Catholic Church and then he started his own church. Big misconception for anyone reading that Martin Luther didn't want to actually start his church. He wanted to fix the church but that being said, his church still came about. Along with that it kind of did open Pandora's box
With that being said though, since Martin Luther was a German theologian this is a conspiracy but it is the Martin Luther dilemma on Martin Luther's birthday the Holocaust was inspired by him because members of the National Socialist Party read that book and took inspiration and to honour Martin Luther, they did it on his birthday
So did Martin Luther actually want to go to the original canon or did he do it out of vendetta against the Catholic Church? He had nothing about what the Jews actually originally wanted; he just had a vendetta against the Catholic Church and that's why he split up the church
If you are not aware of the Martin Luther dilemma, it's basically stating that Martin Luther wanted to go back to the original canon of the Jews, which is what we have now but the Apocrypha was compiled by the church fathers.
Again I don't have to give you a lore history on Martin Luther unless you don't know, but he was a Catholic and he wasn't happy with. I hate
when traditional Christians say that he removed seven books. He didn't; he was just taking them out of his Catholic Bible. He already recommended that they weren't part of the original canon that the Jews used so why should we have them? But then later he used a book writing "The Jews and their lies" and basically that book inspired the National Socialists/nazi party
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but Martin Luther never went against the Orthodox Church. He had a problem with the Catholic Church and then he started his own church. Big misconception for anyone reading that Martin Luther didn't want to actually start his church. He wanted to fix the church but that being said, his church still came about. Along with that it kind of did open Pandora's box
With that being said though, since Martin Luther was a German theologian this is a conspiracy but it is the Martin Luther dilemma on Martin Luther's birthday the Holocaust was inspired by him because members of the National Socialist Party read that book and took inspiration and to honour Martin Luther, they did it on his birthday
So did Martin Luther actually want to go to the original canon or did he do it out of vendetta against the Catholic Church? He had nothing about what the Jews actually originally wanted; he just had a vendetta against the Catholic Church and that's why he split up the church
Now why is this relevant? Because if Martin Luther actually wanted to bring back the original canon, the church fathers did compile the Bible. Traditionally speaking the Orthodox people are correct on this. They have been the ones: Paul went to an Orthodox church. The disciples in the Bible went to an Orthodox church. The same liturgy that is held today has been the same one for the past 2,000 years. If you think that Christians in the Orthodox Church now are sober, they were more sober in the past. If you really want to know what Christianity was like 2,000 years ago, you go into an Orthodox church. The majority of parishes have been there for the past 1,000-2,000 years. They've been longer than the majority of countries
I think the mature decision is if I wasn't a Pentecostal, I'd be an Orthodox Christian. That's it
If you ask me in terms of the apocrypha, there's a lot of wisdom that we miss out on as protis because the Church Fathers had more wisdom than us. I mean they were the disciples of the disciples of Jesus. Can you just imagine what that would be like? To have a disciple who was discipled by Jesus himself. Do you know how much wisdom, how much spiritual they would be
You miss out on things like the Book of Maccabees, where it actually tells us that in the war they could see people's souls going up to heaven and that's why they pray for the dead. They intercede for the dead. A lot of early Christians, they don't pray to saints; they ask the saints to pray for them. They were asking for Peter's intercession when they were building the original church because they knew Christ left a church.
So a lot of this Protestant rubbish about it being not a relation, no, Christ came to start a relation. That's why we have a difference between Jews and Christianity. That's why the New Testament is so important to us because Christ came and he atoned for the death of our sins
If you ask me every Christian should read the Apocrypha. I'm going to when I get some money because at the moment I'm very broke maybe buy it when I get my neetbux
We worship one God, three different persons.
I am a slave to Christ and it feels amazing.
No, that's just our group and it's more of a play on words of the original site that we are on
awesome don't promote this here because I don't want this thread to get taken down since I have good answers hereJust our group
I want to purchase the domain and make something out of it though
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But that being said are you considering having another forum?
if you ask me all Christians should be
We should acknowledge that looks are the most important metric in life but God is more important than that. God should always be your number one
With that being said the
It doesn't deny looks theory, we are still aware but the way I see it is that looks are social currency. That's itSome people are unfortunately more blessed than others but God doesn't look at his children in a sexual way. He's aware that people are treated based on their looks and God can do whatever he wants. Maybe he designed the world to be that way. If you think that's evil then that's your own personal opinion but the way I see it is God is aware of that. A father doesn't look at his children as being sexually attracted to his children. It doesn't work like that unless you are sick
Our father cares more about what's inside our heart. What's our heart posture like? What's our soul like because the reality is the scriptures say we are made in God's image so maybe this is
We are all beautiful to God but when we talk about beauty and being made in God's image, God Himself in the scripture says He had no desirable featuresI love @CADcel tagline: It's fueled by hate but loved by Christ and that's beautiful because that's true. A lot of us can be upset and angry at the world but that's our flesh. Our spirit knows there is a home
When you start to actually worship God and make that personal choice that I want to submit myself to God, you realize all this materialistic stuff really doesn't matter
Not quite how that works. He died instead of us because we all sinned.
He didn't save himself? but 4 ourselves. He realised that humans aren't evil; it's that our soul is sick and the only medicine is Christ. He had to do a perfect run in order for us to do things like take the Eucharist so we can actually inherit his body and blood and be sanctified by Christ's blood
So once again there were multiple witnesses. I'm pretty sure it's about 600 witnesses. Correct me if I'm wrong. You can do your own research but there are also like 25,000 manuscripts of Jesus Christ. He's one of the most documented humans on Earth. Take someone like Julius Caesar; you wouldn't say he didn't exist despite the fact that he only has less than 10,000 manuscripts but you still deny that Jesus and his resurrection did happen.
And if Paul says himself, as you are aware, if he didn't get resurrected then my faith has been for nothing because I don't worship a dead man
So the translation is perfect. If someone missed off one, one decimal point, they'd be kicked off and they'll be forced to start again. It's a translation but you are correct: the fact that the apostles didn't write the Bible itself, God did. He used other people to translate it because people at that time in Nazareth spoke either Hebrew or they spoke Aramaic. We have Greek manuscripts. No one spoke English at that time. There are now loads of languages, if not thousands, and they're all translated. I can still say "hello" and "hi".'' You are right'' etc that all still means "hello" but it all has the same translation.
Is it true that it can be explained in game terms? Like as in GTA 5 where player is all the main characters, despite main characters being different and not being an entirety of the player
Is it like that?
How they are three and one at the same time?
Well the Holy Trinity is not meant to be easy. It is complicated because God is complicated.
But I think once you become a Christian you begin to understand I don't want to nuke you with theology but it depends on who you ask. The traditional churches seem to have the filioque, where they believe that the Holy Spirit proceeds from only the Father, whereas we as Protestants believe that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son
One God, three different extinct persons
Yes it can but I avoid using terms like this because they are heretical or you go into heresy. The best way to explain it is just using a photo.
I personally avoid using analogies when it comes to the Trinity because I don't want to engage in heresy
So how can we understand God and believe that trinity is true?
I live in Egypt, most christians here are orthodox, pastors and priests here can't explain the trinity and escape from that question
Nah, i've looked but nothing beats this forum, especially with how active it is compared to other sites similar.
Although having a more lowkey christcels forum could be good, although it will be super inactive.
not that they can't explain it, they just don't want to get themselves into heresy
Especially since if you're Muslim, you probably won't understand the Trinity anyway
no because I can explain the trinity and it is true but once again there are certain things in the Bible where you need to be a believer to understand
I don't really want to have this discussion here because I don't want them to think that we're organizing to promote.
But if you're using social media, it's really easy to market a forum.
But I'm going to stop speaking after this. If you want you can PM me
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