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Change my view: Depression and mental toughness is genetic

mylifeistrash

mylifeistrash

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Change my view:

Some guys will get depressed over incel. Some might get one of their limbs cut off in a work accident and remain mostly positive about life.
All that shit is genetic and for the most part, can't be changed.

We all have a baseline that is encoded in our DNA that we gravitate towards and we'll use any event as a reason for feeling that way.

In summary, some guys are just fucked from the day they are born and are destined to blow their brains out.
 
Literally everything is genetic.
 
Nah not genetic, its because people put acidic foods into their body instead eating high alkaline vegan foods. Also our reward system and dopamine has been ruined and destroyed due to the advancement of civilization and technology.
 
mylifeistrash said:
Some might get one of their limbs cut off in a work accident and remain mostly positive about life.
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I don´t buy it, they´re just pretending and larpmaxing. No way that someone could fully accept the loss of a limb.

About your topic, depression is mostly genetic and a consequence of having poor looks (or lacking a vagina). I have almost never seen a chad or a roastie seriously depressed, and when they do, it´s just attention whoring.
 
Nautica1983 said:
Nah not genetic, its because people put acidic foods into their body instead eating high alkaline vegan foods. Also our reward system and dopamine has been ruined and destroyed due to the advancement of civilization and technology.
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is this satire?
 
Cuyen said:
Literally everything is genetic.
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Yes, but admitting so would destroy people's ability to make scapegoats out of people while at the same time considering other people "poor victims of society" or whatever (Ex: white pedophile x black violent criminal).
 
I particularly agree with this valid and accurate statement, genetics plays a significant factor.
 
Personality is genetic.

That's why we have sadistic psychopaths from privileged stable families, and some of the most loving and compassionate people from war-torn battlegrounds.

This is why therapy is cope. You are no more free from your biological programming than your computer is from its electronic programming. People know all they need about you from the shape of your skull.
 
KingOfRome said:
Personality is genetic.

That's why we have sadistic psychopaths from privileged stable families, and some of the most loving and compassionate people from war-torn battlegrounds.

This is why therapy is cope. You are no more free from your biological programming than your computer is from its electronic programming. People know all they need about you from the shape of your skull.
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The ones who say personality and behavior are from your environment are the usually the ones who are fat and have zero control over themselves.
 
OF COURSE IT IS GENETIC


good looking = not depressed


ugly = depressed


its over
 
mylifeistrash said:
The ones who say personality and behavior are from your environment are the usually the ones who are fat and have zero control over themselves.
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Back when I was a landwhale, I thought personality was around a 70-30 split between environment and genetics.

Now that I'm lean, I understand the true power of genetics over the human mind. When fatasses who can't lose weight blame their genetics for their inability to lose weight, they're right for the wrong reason.
 
Genetic determinism bro, it's true
Genes are everything
 
mylifeistrash said:
Some guys will get depressed over incel. Some might get one of their limbs cut off in a work accident and remain mostly positive about life.
All that shit is genetic and for the most part, can't be changed.

We all have a baseline that is encoded in our DNA that we gravitate towards and we'll use any event as a reason for feeling that way.

In summary, some guys are just fucked from the day they are born and are destined to blow their brains out.
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Fully agree. When foids say looks don't matter it is all about personality I always say: "If there is one thing I have even less power to change than my looks then it is my personality." You can not "stop being negative". If this is you and your way to see things then there is nothing you can do about it.
 
mylifeistrash said:
Pretty much.

How is it even possible to claim it's not? I can't even see how.
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Some genes express depending on the environment you have, someone with murderous tendencies in their genes could express these genes depending on how is his life.
 
mylifeistrash said:
is this satire?
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It is true to a degree. As a child I played Nintendo all day. Nintendo is much more entertaining than learning for school exams or getting something done. So when writing a good test at school for example it didn't satisfy me sufficiently as I had learned that playing Nintendo is much more rewarding than working hard for weeks and then getting a good result. I think it did fuck me up in a way. Still I think even if Nintendo had never existed I would still have failed at live simply because I am lazy by nature. Genes are stronger than that stuff but that stuff is making things even worse.
 
virgin4life said:
Fully agree. When foids say looks don't matter it is all about personality I always say: "If there is one thing I have even less power to change than my looks then it is my personality." You can not "stop being negative". If this is you and your way to see things then there is nothing you can do about it.
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Agree. I think the whole "work on yourself", "change your attitude", "become positive" thing is a cope for normies who can't deal with the fact that there are people who are different and just don't fit in.

For that reason I believe it is possible for a man to be good looking and incel/mentalcel, while for women this is never possible. A good looking woman has a written ticket in life. A good looking man can be standardcel if he is not neurotypical.
 
Nautica1983 said:
Nah not genetic, its because people put acidic foods into their body instead eating high alkaline vegan foods. Also our reward system and dopamine has been ruined and destroyed due to the advancement of civilization and technology.
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Veganism cause bad jaw, bad teeth, manletism and it has to be the actual cause of several mental illnesses kek.

Not any single intelectual species can come from eating veggies.

The only mechanisms of defence that plant have is to attack the animals that eat them, either with toxicity, poison or being indigestible, so the plant eater numbers get reduced or damaged in any way.

While the mechanism of a rabbit is to run and be agile and this can only be countered by intellect, same with boars, most animal mechanism of defense is to actually avoid death thanks to their movement.
 
Rightful anger said:
Agree. I think the whole "work on yourself", "change your attitude", "become positive" thing is a cope for normies who can't deal with the fact that there are people who are different and just don't fit in.
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Yes and they can not admit that society just doesn't work for everybody and that every social system needs it's losers. When I was young I often wondered if something was wrong with me. Today I know everything is fine with me. Something is very wrong with society. It is just not made for my kind of people.
 
Honeypot said:
Veganism cause bad jaw, bad teeth, manletism and it has to be the actual cause of several mental illnesses kek.

Not any single intelectual species can come from eating veggies.

The only mechanisms of defence that plant have is to attack the animals that eat them, either with toxicity, poison or being indigestible, so the plant eater numbers get reduced or damaged in any way.

While the mechanism of a rabbit is to run and be agile and this can only be countered by intellect, same with boars, most animal mechanism of defense is to actually avoid death thanks to their movement.
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Is this a joke? How many of you meat eaters here have Chad Jawlines and incredible teeth? Where is the proof that veganism causes malents? Arent most of you guys here MANLETS?

Eating a high alkaline vegan diet cures and prevents all illnesses and diseases. Acidic food makes you susceptible to impurities and diseases. We are the only flat toothed mammals that eat meat. The human body is more similar to plants than any other carnivores on the planet.

Plants are what humans were suppose to eat, not meat.
 
mylifeistrash said:
Please elaborate
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It's not the leanness itself that's changed my opinion on the matter, but rather, the process that led me to becoming lean.

I was obese for as long as I could remember before very recently, and most of my family struggles with excess body fat. It was at least semi-reasonable for me to believe my obesity was caused chiefly by familial dietary habits.

One day, I decided to stop being a fat pig, so I went on a diet and eventually was no longer a fat pig. There was no slow, gradual shift to a healthy life style, just an abrupt shift from a lifestyle that makes me fat to a lifestyle that doesn't. Although I did fall for more than my fare share of memes and fad diets, the changes I made to my body were swift and radical.

This made me wonder why others couldn't do the same thing. My fat family members express concern about their weight, but can only make small changes that don't last long enough to make any meaningful impact. I looked outside of my family, to the general population, and saw the exact same thing. As it turns out, people who achieved what I achieved are very few and far between, despite having the same backgrounds. There had to be, I reckoned, some indiscernible difference between these two groups. Some je ne sais quoi.

After some retrospection, I realized it was an innate force of will that cannot come from the environment. That can only come from within; only from the genetic code. Then, I realized that not just this aspect, but all aspects of personality, are built on this innate foundation.

In short, fatties are fat because of their genetics, but they don't make fatties physiologically incapable of weight loss like they claim, but rather, psychologically incapable.
 
Nautica1983 said:
Is this a joke? How many of you meat eaters here have Chad Jawlines and incredible teeth? Where is the proof that veganism causes malents? Arent most of you guys here MANLETS?

Eating a high alkaline vegan diet cures and prevents all illnesses and diseases. Acidic food makes you susceptible to impurities and diseases. We are the only flat toothed mammals that eat meat. The human body is more similar to plants than any other carnivores on the planet.

Plants are what humans were suppose to eat, not meat.
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Yeah because all vegans live forever and never get ill. And the truth is we can eat meat. Millions of people do and reach their life expectancy just like anyone else. You do not like how the industry treats animals. That is the only argument for veganism that makes any sense and you should stick to it.
KingOfRome said:
It's not the leanness itself that's changed my opinion on the matter, but rather, the process that led me to becoming lean.

I was obese for as long as I could remember before very recently, and most of my family struggles with excess body fat. It was at least semi-reasonable for me to believe my obesity was caused chiefly by familial dietary habits.

One day, I decided to stop being a fat pig, so I went on a diet and eventually was no longer a fat pig. There was no slow, gradual shift to a healthy life style, just an abrupt shift from a lifestyle that makes me fat to a lifestyle that doesn't. Although I did fall for more than my fare share of memes and fad diets, the changes I made to my body were swift and radical.

This made me wonder why others couldn't do the same thing. My fat family members express concern about their weight, but can only make small changes that don't last long enough to make any meaningful impact. I looked outside of my family, to the general population, and saw the exact same thing. As it turns out, people who achieved what I achieved are very few and far between, despite having the same backgrounds. There had to be, I reckoned, some indiscernible difference between these two groups. Some je ne sais quoi.

After some retrospection, I realized it was an innate force of will that cannot come from the environment. That can only come from within; only from the genetic code. Then, I realized that not just this aspect, but all aspects of personality, are built on this innate foundation.

In short, fatties are fat because of their genetics, but they don't make fatties physiologically incapable of weight loss like they claim, but rather, psychologically incapable.
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True. It makes no difference if it is a psychological or physiological incapability though.
 
virgin4life said:
Yeah because all vegans live forever and never get ill. And the truth is we can eat meat. Millions of people do and reach their life expectancy just like anyone else. You do not like how the industry treats animals. That is the only argument for veganism that makes any sense and you should stick to it.
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Never said anything about all vegans living forever, also any vegan eating the right diet does NOT get sick. Eating acidic foods is what causes cancer and illnesses. Dr sebi PROVENLY cured Aids, blindness, Cancer, and his own schizophrenia with high alkaline vegan diet.
 
Nautica1983 said:
Never said anything about all vegans living forever, also any vegan eating the right diet does NOT get sick. Eating acidic foods is what causes cancer and illnesses. Dr sebi PROVENLY cured Aids, blindness, Cancer, and his own schizophrenia with high alkaline vegan diet.
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Sorry but that sounds like BS to me.
 
while depression can be genetic, it can also be caused by traumatic experiences or environmental factors. there's also a lot of evidence that suggests eating junk food and sugar all the time can contribute to a poor mental state.
 
virgin4life said:
Sorry but that sounds like BS to me.
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It sounds like BS because we have been brainwashed and lied to from birth about almost everything. We live in a world of lies. But you can look up the surpreme court ruling in which he brought 77 people cured from their diseases and he won the case.
 
KingOfRome said:
After some retrospection, I realized it was an innate force of will that cannot come from the environment. That can only come from within; only from the genetic code. Then, I realized that not just this aspect, but all aspects of personality, are built on this innate foundation.

In short, fatties are fat because of their genetics, but they don't make fatties physiologically incapable of weight loss like they claim, but rather, psychologically incapable.
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strong ability to come to high IQ conclusions

you could say only some humans have the genetics to allow them some free will, but most humans have none at all
 
Even your likeliness to pick up cigs, drink, or doing any drugs is influenced by your genetic line
 
I have to agree with @Nautica1983 on this one. A nutritionally sufficient vegan diet will naturally be low in saturated fat, cholesterol, and exogenous animal hormones, making it ideal for health and fitness. Though, I have to disagree on the magical effects of "high alkaline" foods.

mylifeistrash said:
strong ability to come to high IQ conclusions

you could say only some humans have the genetics to allow them some free will, but most humans have none at all
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I don't believe free will exists, though I do think some people have a better ability to keep their "id" in check than others.
 
Nope.

Depressions and mentla ilness are mostly caused by environmental and societal factor.
Although genes do play a small part in it.
 
KingOfRome said:
It's not the leanness itself that's changed my opinion on the matter, but rather, the process that led me to becoming lean.

I was obese for as long as I could remember before very recently, and most of my family struggles with excess body fat. It was at least semi-reasonable for me to believe my obesity was caused chiefly by familial dietary habits.

One day, I decided to stop being a fat pig, so I went on a diet and eventually was no longer a fat pig. There was no slow, gradual shift to a healthy life style, just an abrupt shift from a lifestyle that makes me fat to a lifestyle that doesn't. Although I did fall for more than my fare share of memes and fad diets, the changes I made to my body were swift and radical.

This made me wonder why others couldn't do the same thing. My fat family members express concern about their weight, but can only make small changes that don't last long enough to make any meaningful impact. I looked outside of my family, to the general population, and saw the exact same thing. As it turns out, people who achieved what I achieved are very few and far between, despite having the same backgrounds. There had to be, I reckoned, some indiscernible difference between these two groups. Some je ne sais quoi.

After some retrospection, I realized it was an innate force of will that cannot come from the environment. That can only come from within; only from the genetic code. Then, I realized that not just this aspect, but all aspects of personality, are built on this innate foundation.

In short, fatties are fat because of their genetics, but they don't make fatties physiologically incapable of weight loss like they claim, but rather, psychologically incapable.
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I dont think its genetics. Will power can be built through discipline. For any major change to occur, the subconcious mind must be reprogrammed and it's not that easy to do.
 
Alfen said:
Depressions and mentla ilness are mostly caused by environmental and societal factor.
Although genes do play a small part in it.
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Mainly generic but there is some environmental influences that come into play. Same could be said about IQ and height.
 
Nautica1983 said:
Is this a joke? How many of you meat eaters here have Chad Jawlines and incredible teeth? Where is the proof that veganism causes malents? Arent most of you guys here MANLETS?

Eating a high alkaline vegan diet cures and prevents all illnesses and diseases. Acidic food makes you susceptible to impurities and diseases. We are the only flat toothed mammals that eat meat. The human body is more similar to plants than any other carnivores on the planet.

Plants are what humans were suppose to eat, not meat.
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Most of my life I ate mostly plants and sure I'm a turbo manlet (5'2) with a bad jaw exactly because that.

Here is the proof http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/price9.html
http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html

Also agriculture caused the worst hypergamy record in recorded human history:
https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success
And also the worst manlet record:
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These 2 studies aren't related at all but is curious how agriculture revolution caused both hypergamy and heavy manletism, we have recovered now because the massive meat production that we have now.

As I said before not any plant eater species can develop ever intelligence because it's a predator trait in order to predict the movement and actions of their prey they have to develop intellect.
 
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id say its a mix between chemical and genetic. Genetics can play a huge part, especially if you have family members who are/ were depressed/ psycho
 
Honeypot said:
Most of my life I ate mostly plants and sure I'm a turbo manlet (5'2) with a bad jaw exactly because that.

Here is the proof http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/price9.html
http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html

Also agriculture caused the worst hypergamy record in recorded human history:
https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success
And also the worst manlet record:
View attachment 108158

These 2 studies aren't related at all but is curious how agriculture revolution caused both hypergamy and heavy manletism, we have recovered now because the massive meat production that we have now.

As I said before not any plant eater species can develop ever intelligence because it's a predator trait in order to predict the movement and actions of their prey they have to develop intellect.
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Think it's because of some specific nutrition/vitamin that is missing when you don't eat meat? If so, what?
 
it must have to do with hormone levels
 
mylifeistrash said:
Think it's because of some specific nutrition/vitamin that is missing when you don't eat meat? If so, what?
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It has to do more with what the humans evolved to eat, the teeth decay problem is just an adverse biological reaction to plants that human never managed to deal with.

The jaw problem is because our jaw is designed to chew raw meat, if you don't do it your jaw don't develop correctly >but muh chad who eat fast food? everything in this world is grayscale and not black or white meaning some people will still be able to develop some acceptable jaw even if not eating the ideal diet depending on various factors.

The height problem is caused by several factors that I don't know well.
 
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Honeypot said:
It has to do more with what the humans evolved to eat, the teeth decay problem is just an adverse biological reaction to plants that human never managed to deal with.

The jaw problem is because our jaw is designed to chew raw meat, if you don't do it your jaw don't develop correctly >but muh chad who eat fast food? everything in this world is grayscale and not black or white meaning some people will still be able to develop some acceptable jaw even if not eating the ideal diet depending on various factors.

The height problem is caused by several factors that I don't know well.
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The grains and later on sugar causing tooth decay is legit. Cavities I think rarely ever existed a few hundred years ago.

I doubt chewing hard shit develops your jaw, is that just people with shitty jaws faced more evolutionary pressure and simply died off back in those days. Just my opinion...

As for meat, yeah, a lot of vitamins like B2,B9,B12, iron, etc.
jerrycan dan said:
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Edit: Whoa, thanks for the gold, stranger!
 
mylifeistrash said:
I doubt chewing hard shit develops your jaw, is that just people with shitty jaws faced more evolutionary pressure and simply died off back in those days. Just my opinion...
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looking good for a flip
 
mylifeistrash said:
The grains and later on sugar causing tooth decay is legit. Cavities I think rarely ever existed a few hundred years ago.

I doubt chewing hard shit develops your jaw, is that just people with shitty jaws faced more evolutionary pressure and simply died off back in those days. Just my opinion...
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Jaw growth guidance is proven in kids, is a mix of genetics and growth guidance.
jerrycan dan said:

looking good for a flip
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He is not even doing it right, still growth guidance maxxed.
 
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