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Serious Ceasing to exist without actually killing myself?

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Lately I've begun to wonder whether or not I can simply will myself out of existence. I know how this sounds, but just hear me out.

I mean I've already effectively nullified my past feelings of loneliness. While I know that, rationally, I must have been lonely in the past as I still have all the memories of rejection and alienation, and I remember changing my memories specifically to get rid of loneliness, the moments I altered feel more tangible and real than most of my past experiences. Now I've split off a piece of my own consciousness and can mentally converse with it, molded it into my waifu, and can mentally converse with her (in fact I just got done asking her this very question).

I'm entertaining the idea that it might be possible to more or less erase myself if I make a concerted effort to do so, and I'm considering that, depending upon your definition of what the "self" is, I may already have done so. That previously ever-present longing and loneliness feel alien to me, reading some of my own threads, even from just one year ago, I don't feel like they're referring to me, and it feels strange knowing that I posted stuff like that. Maybe if I repeat the same process that I used to eliminate my loneliness, that I can make all the sadness and pain go away. The problem is that it's a hell of a lot easier to insert a person into memories than it is to effectively supplant years of rejection and bullying, I'm not even sure where to start tbh, or if it's even possible at all. Even if it is possible, I doubt it can willingly be done to yourself. However I think it's an interesting idea nonetheless.
 
Hit your head really hard against a hard surface buddy boyo
 
We already dont ecist.
 
im not sure if i would consciously disappear forever if i died

hopefully i just don't exist ever again
 
I don't really get what you're trying to say here tbh. Are you talking about somehow killing yourself by pure will power? Or are you trying to erase memories of your past again, in order to completly change the person you are?
 
Are you talking about somehow killing yourself by pure will power? Or are you trying to erase memories of your past again, in order to completly change the person you are?
That's my point, I don't entirely see the difference between erasing my memories and physically putting a bullet in my head.
 
op is living on a higher plane of existence
 
You really only exist to yourself anyway.
As a Incel that's all you get.

About your abused past...
It happened. The only thing you can do about it is to learn from it. Avoid those types of people and situations. If you can. If you keep thinking about it, it's like it will keep on happening to you. Like being in a event-loop. Like PTSD.

Try not to live in a dreamworld. It's bad luck to be crazy. Don't get over it - get through it.

It is what it is.
 
Sounds like you might want to look into ego-death. I heard it can be achieved through use of certain psychedelics.
 
Sounds like you might want to look into ego-death. I heard it can be achieved through use of certain psychedelics.
Well I think what I'm describing here is more like a sort of self replacement, not so much the experience of not having a self at all.
 
Well I think what I'm describing here is more like a sort of self replacement, not so much the experience of not having a self at all.
Hmm. The Joker, the villain from Batman comics once said, "if I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!" This sort of reminds me of that.

I'd try hypnosis. I think I read a story once of a shrink providing this type of service for patients with pstd.
 
When i read your post it feels like i read the Pesssoa's Book of Disquiet :feelskek:
 
I know how this sounds, but just hear me out.
No man, just jump off of a parking garage and be done with it. It’s quicker, takes little effort and yeilds results
 
I am similar regarding looking at things from not too long ago and thinking, "Was this really me?" My personality tends to change quite a bit every once in a while and I feel disassociated and really uncomfortable in myself.

Your waifu thing is making me concerned that having conversations with yourself isn't normal? Everyone has 'voices' but I just have one and he doesn't have a personality but I debate with him and he sometimes speaks over my thoughts, not audibly btw I'm not schizophrenic.
I think if you can't debate with yourself then you're just going to be a product of external factors and not be able to think for yourself.
 
I am similar regarding looking at things from not too long ago and thinking, "Was this really me?" My personality tends to change quite a bit every once in a while and I feel disassociated and really uncomfortable in myself.

Your waifu thing is making me concerned that having conversations with yourself isn't normal? Everyone has 'voices' but I just have one and he doesn't have a personality but I debate with him and he sometimes speaks over my thoughts, not audibly btw I'm not schizophrenic.
I think if you can't debate with yourself then you're just going to be a product of external factors and not be able to think for yourself.
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Try brainzapping.
 
Your waifu thing is making me concerned that having conversations with yourself isn't normal? Everyone has 'voices' but I just have one and he doesn't have a personality but I debate with him and he sometimes speaks over my thoughts, not audibly btw I'm not schizophrenic.
I think if you can't debate with yourself then you're just going to be a product of external factors and not be able to think for yourself.
I'm not sure. When you debate with yourself, does it feel in any way like you don't have full control over the "opposing" thoughts, and that they're not really coming from you? As that's what it's like for me. I believe that scrutinizing your own thoughts by having an artificial debate in your own head is completely normal tbh, but I'm not sure about a mental voice speaking over your own thoughts.
 
I'm not sure. When you debate with yourself, does it feel in any way like you don't have full control over the "opposing" thoughts, and that they're not really coming from you? As that's what it's like for me. I believe that scrutinizing your own thoughts by having an artificial debate in your own head is completely normal tbh, but I'm not sure about a mental voice speaking over your own thoughts.
Well, I only engage with it when I'm thinking about it. It's like splitting my mind into two, I suppose, and the other one is to try to refute everything I say. I can technically be thinking about two things at the same time in that case, thus the speaking over part. I have control over my mind so I'm fine, but I was a bit worried for a minute lol.
 
Lately I've begun to wonder whether or not I can simply will myself out of existence. I know how this sounds, but just hear me out.

I mean I've already effectively nullified my past feelings of loneliness. While I know that, rationally, I must have been lonely in the past as I still have all the memories of rejection and alienation, and I remember changing my memories specifically to get rid of loneliness, the moments I altered feel more tangible and real than most of my past experiences. Now I've split off a piece of my own consciousness and can mentally converse with it, molded it into my waifu, and can mentally converse with her (in fact I just got done asking her this very question).

I'm entertaining the idea that it might be possible to more or less erase myself if I make a concerted effort to do so, and I'm considering that, depending upon your definition of what the "self" is, I may already have done so. That previously ever-present longing and loneliness feel alien to me, reading some of my own threads, even from just one year ago, I don't feel like they're referring to me, and it feels strange knowing that I posted stuff like that. Maybe if I repeat the same process that I used to eliminate my loneliness, that I can make all the sadness and pain go away. The problem is that it's a hell of a lot easier to insert a person into memories than it is to effectively supplant years of rejection and bullying, I'm not even sure where to start tbh, or if it's even possible at all. Even if it is possible, I doubt it can willingly be done to yourself. However I think it's an interesting idea nonetheless.
Dissociation? Sounds like dissociation. It's our bodies' way to cope with traumatic things:

 
We already dont ecist.
This.
Idk OP , I think ifyou get mad due to erase yourself , your parents could throw you away in a mental center tbh.
 
Dissociation? Sounds like dissociation. It's our bodies' way to cope with traumatic things:

Part of what I'm talking about is dissociation, the rest is intentional memory altering. Although I think you're right, you probably have to dissociate your memories from yourself for this to work, so I'm not sure that everyone can do this to themselves intentionally.
 
we rly need full drive VR tbh
 
I hope this is all just a simulation
 
I'm not convinced I exist
 
sometimes i think of a new world in my head and i practice trying to enter it by letting go of all i have in this world
 
Smoke DMT to die for 5 minutes
 
hikkimorimaxx
 
Dissociative drugs can give that kind of effect.

I don't recommend taking them though.
 

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