JFL Can you come to terms with the fact that all of this is caused by a hole?

[vermilion]

• Men go to war and slaughter each other.
• Men's friendships are ruined.
• Men are jealous of each other.
• Men compete beyond limits.
• Men gaslight their brothers.

For what? A stinky hole. All the problems associated with inceldom are caused by a bleeding hole. We all have experienced mistreatment by other men as well, but perhaps they were just following the herd so they could fit in with the rest of society. Fear of rejection got the best of them.

It's even worse nowadays because the hole is constantly put on a pedestal by beta men. The same hole that wouldn't fight for its country given the opportunity; the same ungrateful hole that complains about its supposed oppression while having an unbelievable amount of privilege and support.

 

[Deleted member 39301]

Most people have come to terms with it, but most haven't realized that it's a problem yet. We're told to never judge a book by it's cover, yet we're also made to believe that women are pure and kind by nature. Women have been the root cause of all evil since the creation of earth and life itself. Never forget that Eve was the one that bit into the apple first, and told Adam to do the same as well.

 

[Gundamcel69]

The fact that women withhold sex from me makes me want to fucking stab myself repeatedly in front of one of them and scream "THIS IS WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!". I doubt that she'd feel anything from that though.

 

[NoLooksNoLife]

The fact that women withhold sex from me makes me want to fucking stab myself repeatedly in front of one of them and scream "THIS IS WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!". I doubt that she'd feel anything from that though.

Stabbing yourself is cucked, GrAY ass nigga, especially when the real target would be right there in front of you in your scenario, in gta v

 

[Gundamcel69]

You stab the foid instead (in counter strike of course), why would you harm yourself?

Because I just feel dying at this point.

 

[Belém Trânsito]

• Men go to war and slaughter each other.
• Men's friendships are ruined.
• Men are jealous of each other.
• Men compete beyond limits.
• Men gaslight their brothers.

For what? A stinky hole. All the problems associated with inceldom are caused by a bleeding hole. We all have experienced mistreatment by other men as well, but perhaps they were just following the herd so they could fit in with the rest of society. Fear of rejection got the best of them.

It's even worse nowadays because the hole is constantly put on a pedestal by beta men. The same hole that wouldn't fight for its country given the opportunity; the same ungrateful hole that complains about its supposed oppression while having an unbelievable amount of privilege and support.

Very few men go to war. Very few men are jealous of each other. And so on. Relatively, of course

Most males actually cooperate a lot more than they compete. Male competition is mostly on sports.

I agree however that sexual interest is a huge factor in wars and whatnot. Maybe that's why a gay/herbivore lifestyle is being so promoted these days? Men who don't want to marry/have a partner are much less likely to change things and bother the elites.

 

[vermilion]

Very few men go to war.

Not throughout history. Our ancestors have always fought each other for territories and resources, which leads to holes anyway because children are needed in order to maintain control over settlements.

Very few men are jealous of each other.

No. Nearly every man experiences jealously toward his counterparts at least once in their lifetimes

And so on. Relatively, of course

Most males actually cooperate a lot more than they compete. Male competition is mostly on sports.

Life is a huge competition. You've graduated College because your grades and letters of recommendation were good enough to get you inside. You've got a job because you've beaten other men looking for the same job. You've got a hole because you've attracted the hole other men couldn't attract.

I agree however that sexual interest is a huge factor in wars and whatnot. Maybe that's why a gay/herbivore lifestyle is being so promoted these days? Men who don't want to marry/have a partner are much less likely to change things and bother the elites.

I think the problem concerning politically correct masses goes deeper than that. They are easily manipulated by the system, yes, but their actions and ideologies are probably driven by the desire to find meaning in their boring lives. Surrogate activities are pretty common among first world populations because we have nothing else to bother about once we've established a comfortable civilization. Hence women finding lame excuses to accuse random men of sexually assaulting them, young leftists claiming to have been oppressed, or whatever.

 

[El Enemigo]

I did come to terms with it. That's why i plan on leading a hedonist lifestyle.

 

[RandomGuy]

 

[Belém Trânsito]

Not throughout history. Our ancestors have always fought each other for territories and resources, which leads to holes anyway because children are needed in order to maintain control over settlements.

Good, we are not living in "history", we're living now. I can't accept this argument anymore than that ridiculous claim white people must pay reparations for blacks because of what happened centuries ago.

No. Nearly every man experiences jealously toward his counterparts at least once in their lifetimes

Experiencing it once or a few times over a LIFETIME is a pretty dumb metric if you stop to think about it. "Being jealous", as a "state" is pretty rare overall, and often caused by excess of emotion, never reason.

I can't speak for all but for me it's pointless to be jealous/envious against other people (m or f). I hate the system that allows all that to happen, but very few specific people. And from what I've read while lurking this forum, many here seems to think the same. I've decided to register precisely because this was clear to me, as there is a lot of people supporting each other here (even if they use some irony now and then).

Life is a huge competition. You've graduated College because your grades and letters of recommendation were good enough to get you inside. You've got a job because you've beaten other men looking for the same job. You've got a hole because you've attracted the hole other men couldn't attract.

This makes absolutely clear your argumentos hold no water whatsoever. You literally admitted that cooperation is key to succed in life's competitive environment. Someone taught me, someone wrote letters of recommendations for my benefit.

In fact if what you propose were true, then wouldn't be any jobs either, as coworkers would just be competing against each other, never being able to function properly as a business.

I think the problem concerning politically correct masses goes deeper than that. They are easily manipulated by the system, yes, but their actions and ideologies are probably driven by the desire to find meaning in their boring lives. Surrogate activities are pretty common among first world populations because we have nothing else to bother about once we've established a comfortable civilization. Hence women finding lame excuses to accuse random men of sexually assaulting them, young leftists claiming to have been oppressed, or whatever.

I can pretty much guarantee you that 3rd world countries suffer with those issues too. In fact, they're the ones where the left leaning politics end up being implemented, and where leftist politicians get actually elected.

 

[vermilion]

Good, we are not living in "history", we're living now. I can't accept this argument anymore than that ridiculous claim white people must pay reparations for blacks because of what happened centuries ago.

Um, have you been keeping up with the news lately? Russia invaded Ukraine. Thousands of dead corpses all over the place. Israel promotes wars in the Middle East that the United States is encouraged to fight. China might invade Taiwan in a few years. History is happening around you as we speak; just take a look outside for a moment.

Experiencing it once or a few times over a LIFETIME is a pretty dumb metric if you stop to think about it. "Being jealous", as a "state" is pretty rare overall, and often caused by excess of emotion, never reason.

I guess it boils down to experience then. You're going to find out soon that many men on this forum are jealous of people who live better lives. This is not a judgment; it's an observation.

On a personal note, I met several students in High School who were clearly jealous of their peers and weren't afraid to admit it. So it's not really once in a lifetime. It's more frequent than that.

I can't speak for all but for me it's pointless to be jealous/envious against other people (m or f). I hate the system that allows all that to happen, but very few specific people. And from what I've read while lurking this forum, many here seems to think the same. I've decided to register precisely because this was clear to me, as there is a lot of people supporting each other here (even if they use some irony now and then).

Good on you. Just don't set your expectations too high.

This makes absolutely clear your argumentos hold no water whatsoever. You literally admitted that cooperation is key to succed in life's competitive environment. Someone taught me, someone wrote letters of recommendations for my benefit.

Oh, I never denied cooperation exists. Actually, I created a thread on this an hour ago. I just pointed out the fact that life is a competition for resources, territories, reproduction, and power. I believe you don't deny that either.

In fact if what you propose were true, then wouldn't be any jobs either, as coworkers would just be competing against each other, never being able to function properly as a business.

And yet there you are competing with me in order to establish whose views are correct. I never denied cooperation exists; I simply said men fight each other beyond limits because of women, and that's an observable fact. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. So what's your point here? Are you denying men compete with each other so as to be able to reproduce?

You're not blackpilled enough if you deny the intersexual competition, that I can tell you.

I can pretty much guarantee you that 3rd world countries suffer with those issues too. In fact, they're the ones where the left leaning politics end up being implemented, and where leftist politicians get actually elected.

I guess so, but third world individuals have to worry about food, shelter, water supply, criminality, and so on. Whereas, in first world countries, we do worry about those things, but to a lesser extent; so much so that young folks have to find lame excuses in order to satiate their boring, meaningless lives.

 

[Belém Trânsito]

Um, have you been keeping up with the news lately? Russia invaded Ukraine. Thousands of dead corpses all over the place. Israel promotes wars in the Middle East that the United States is encouraged to fight. China might invade Taiwan in a few years. History is happening around you as we speak; just take a look outside for a moment.

Those are decisions by world leaders and upper decks of militaries, and soldiers have to comply - otherwise they are branded traitors/deserters and may actually get a death penalty sentence.

Most people (by far) in this world just want a peaceful life with people they like or hobbies they enjoy, and whatever.

I guess it boils down to experience then. You're going to find out soon that many men on this forum are jealous of people who live better lives. This is not a judgment; it's an observation.

On a personal note, I met several students in High School who were clearly jealous of their peers and weren't afraid to admit it. So it's not really once in a lifetime. It's more frequent than that.

If you compare the amount of time people "spend" being jealous, it's a very tiny fraction, just as most feelings against other people.

Jealousy is also a spectrum. People can be jealous in a "healthy" way (as in, it motivates them to be better at something) if aimed at a peer/someone they like, or downright hateful against what they consider a massive injustice, in which case murder may ensue.

I see very little hate against people from other incels, if anything, most here (myself included) hate the system that benefits people who bully and mistreat others, and the unfair way looks (ultimately, genetics) play a decisive role in all social aspects.

This isn't hate / jealousy.

Oh, I never denied cooperation exists. Actually, I created a thread on this an hour ago. I just pointed out the fact that life is a competition for resources, territories, reproduction, and power. I believe you don't deny that either.

Of course I'll deny that. Life isn't "competition" - competition at various degrees is something that life NEEDS in order to exist AND improve upon itself. This is something else than saying "life is competition". Life is much more, competition plays a role just as death also does - this doesn't seem to support saying that "life is death".

And there is much more than that, including ofc cooperation. Most emotions are actually just the result of natural selection, as they guarantee better odds for survival.

And yet there you are competing with me in order to establish whose views are correct. I never denied cooperation exists; I simply said men fight each other beyond limits because of women, and that's an observable fact. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. So what's your point here? Are you denying men compete with each other so as to be able to reproduce?

That is also cooperation, since it benefit all involved, including those who can read us and improve their own opinions about our world.

No one denies that competition exists and is pretty much everywhere even in modern human life. It begins even before conception. However it makes little sense to reduce life to competition that way in my opinion.

You're not blackpilled enough if you deny the intersexual competition, that I can tell you.

I don't think a "100%" blackpilled person can even exist. First, because no person can embody (in good faith) all experiences from others.

And since people do differ a lot in these, it's only fair they will disagree at some point. I'll take whatever -pill I see as something to be considered and learned from, but not as an objective truth or dogma.

Ex: People disagree a lot if there can be "tallcels" or not, or if escortcels are actually incels (imho they're not, consented sex is sex even if paid).

I guess so, but third world individuals have to worry about food, shelter, water supply, criminality, and so on. Whereas, in first world countries, we do worry about those things, but to a lesser extent; so much so that young folks have to find lame excuses in order to satiate their boring, meaningless lives.

 

[Deleted member 38680]

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Ah yes the primary victims of war as Hillary once said. It should say Go die you're a disposable male!

 

[MARTYRDOM GOD X]

Women are the most privileged demographic, the entire modern developed world is one big giant pussy worshiping simp machine