Can fuckboys be our allies?

[Weininger]

I have some friends that I would considered as "fuckboys", although I know I would never reach them, I still have some sympathies towards them in the sense that they´re basically a romantic symbol of the of men´s autonomy, I mean, in some sense we share some core values: nihilism (although their nihilism is positive, not negative like us), anti-feminism, their symbol is hated by femoids (just like us), a-morality, disdain towards femoids, I mean, you can have a normal conversation with them and they are usually very sympathetic towards me. Is their fault to be good-looking, the reason we exist is because sexual liberalism (that is strictly related with economical liberalism)

 

[Redpill Robert]

Yes, even if only strategic allies. Of course most of the people here are single minded, reactionary, and not long term thinkers. So their only reaction to dudes that get laid AT ALL is simply "RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" even if they're on our side (and I do believe that deep down, most men KNOW the blackpill to be true even if they don't yet know it by name). It's pathetic and ultimately self-defeating, but few people even here will listen to reason.

They say this is "cucked" thinking (really their thinking is cucked; they're much like the cuck that holds his semi-limp 4 inch penis slow-jacking in the corner and crying while the bull fucks his wife, ultimately accepting his fate because it's "his fault") but it's simply basic logic that merely wallowing and whining about your perma-virginity will not yield any real change. We need numbers, and we need action.

 

[NekoStance]

haha OP is cuck
big cuck

also so is 2nd poster, but we all knew that anyway

 

[Redpill Robert]

haha OP is cuck
big cuck

also so is 2nd poster, but we all knew that anyway

Well that's a reasonable argument. Care to elaborate?

And stop following me around you creepy fuck.

 

[PleaseKillMeLoseSkin]

Nah, they feed off incel to make themselves look good.

 

[Robtical]

Yes, even if only strategic allies. Of course most of the people here are single minded, reactionary, and not long term thinkers. So their only reaction to dudes that get laid AT ALL is simply "RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" even if they're on our side (and I do believe that deep down, most men KNOW the blackpill to be true even if they don't yet know it by name). It's pathetic and ultimately self-defeating, but few people even here will listen to reason.

They say this is "cucked" thinking (really their thinking is cucked; they're much like the cuck that holds his semi-limp 4 inch penis slow-jacking in the corner and crying while the bull fucks his wife, ultimately accepting his fate because it's "his fault") but it's simply basic logic that merely wallowing and whining about your perma-virginity will not yield any real change. We need numbers, and we need action.

As long as they're blackpilled and not cucks, they can even be more helpful than cucked bluepill incels. But nothing beats a backpilled incel or volcel imo.

 

[SuperPerfectCel]

Nope. I've tried this IRL. Fuckboys will brag about getting ass and head and call women bitches and sluts with their Chad friends, but the moment you as an incel say anything similar they'll get weirdly defensive and go blue pill white knight.

 

[Redpill Robert]

As long as they're blackpilled and not cucks, they can even be more helpful than cucked bluepill incels. But nothing beats a backpilled incel or volcel imo.

Yeah, I agree with you. The bottom line is do we want change or what? Men still run this bitch where it matters, and it is women who need us not the other way around. If we could wake enough men the beta uprising and feminism as we know it would all be done with in about a week.

 

[Robtical]

Yeah, I agree with you. The bottom line is do we want change or what? Men still run this bitch where it matters, and it is women who need us not the other way around. If we could wake enough men the beta uprising and feminism as we know it would all be done with in about a week.

If we don't want to associate with men who really want to help that might turn them against us. I'm happy for guys like catfishman who are on our side.

 

[InebriatedIrish]

Any ally is important in these dark, treacherous times. However, I wouldn’t trust them too much, since most alliances either disband or backstab each other.

 

[Gone Coping]

they have no incentive to ally with incels, the current situation works out for them in the short term (when it comes time for them to settle down they might reconsider)

 

[Stoiccel]

We have no allies. We're alone.

 

[Heightframeface]

That's quite an oxymoron. Why would the guys who are fucking sluts and most likely enabling hypergamy be concerned with inceldom?

 

[Deleted member 2798]

I have some friends that I would considered as "fuckboys", although I know I would never reach them, I still have some sympathies towards them in the sense that they´re basically a romantic symbol of the of men´s autonomy, I mean, in some sense we share some core values: nihilism (although their nihilism is positive, not negative like us), anti-feminism, their symbol is hated by femoids (just like us), a-morality, disdain towards femoids, I mean, you can have a normal conversation with them and they are usually very sympathetic towards me. Is their fault to be good-looking, the reason we exist is because sexual liberalism (that is strictly related with economical liberalism)

I get what you mean here. In a sense, Casanovas represent the inversion of the eternal incel, the reflected image of the parched man in a Saharan oasis. Where we are driven to intensive study of the caprices of foids by the gnawing sickness of our rejection, these same inquiries are undertaken by their seducers as well. Despite the masochistic tendency of many here to claim that cunts and chads just fall together in nigh-thermodynamic spontaneity, it should be obvious that the sexually successful have to devote serious and inordinate effort to their conquests. All the angled pictures and tomes of Tinder conversations you see are underlaid by an unconscious knowledge of what draws cunts and a slavish obedience to those laws intuited. Yeah, sure it's exceedingly easy for Chad; still he devotes the better part of the day to making himself appeal to sluts and never lets slip the vestments of socialization that dictate that one should behave and speak like a child. He emerges from his pursuits feminized and stupid; inwardly, at least, he must feel bitter at being reduced to a barking seal. "Ayyyyyyyyyy bbqrl wat u doin". Maybe I'm a bit too generous in my estimation, but I have a hard time imagining that any male enjoys acting like this.

See Kierkegaard's The Seducer's Diary for an analysis of the joyless calculation that animates these endeavors. Impelled by his desires to be robbed of his dignity and time by women, then compensated with intimate knowledge of their natures, I imagine Chad comes to the many of the same conclusions we have. When things like this:

Nope. I've tried this IRL. Fuckboys will brag about getting ass and head and call women bitches and sluts with their Chad friends, but the moment you as an incel say anything similar they'll get weirdly defensive and go blue pill white knight.

are seen, the explanation is simple: Chad has something to lose - a lot, in fact. An alliance in wisdom may be forged, but a practical one will likely not be forthcoming.

 

[5mb]

I mean incels need all the allies we can get but I don't know if we can trust them

 

[The End]

I remember I was once questioned, "Are you a fuck-boy?" I had no idea what that was, so I looked it up....

I wish!

 

[Weininger]

are seen, the explanation is simple: Chad has something to lose - a lot, in fact. An alliance in wisdom may be forged, but a practical one will likely not be forthcoming.

That´s and awesome response, and sadly is true, if we focus on a sociological point of view based on interests the fuckboys get 0 benefits from an incel society (that, for me, it would be essentially anti-aristocratic and partially egalitarian with principles based on monogamy), they can be our partial allies in some battles against feminism.
In relation with Kierkegaard works I´ve read Fear and Trembling (a nice spanish translation) but sadly I left it when I moved from my native country 2 years ago. I would try to search in pdf or something the book that you just recommend me.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

That´s and awesome response, and sadly is true, if we focus on a sociological point of view based on interests the fuckboys get 0 benefits from an incel society (that, for me, it would be essentially anti-aristocratic and partially egalitarian with principles based on monogamy), they can be our partial allies in some battles against feminism.

I used to be a strong proponent of egalitarianism, but have come to appreciate at least the acknowledgment of hierarchy. I get the sense that things as they are owe in some degree to a simultaneous rebellion against and greed for the trappings of equality. We've been forced to hypercomplement woman's natural deficiencies in order to fit her into the labor market while in her surges a boundless contempt for the sub-Chads on whose backs she walks toward orgies. The man-woman question is the most essential, but this plays out elsewhere as a general principle. The abolition of a historically valid hierarchy seems to result in a frantic mortal scramble to fit it back together newly, in an untenable ideal image, a piecemeal tower of Babel. I think that a wealth- and status-stratified society is necessary, but if one is to accept his position, he must be guaranteed a means to support himself with a measure of independence and, by scrupulously enforced chastity, a woman of his social station.

In relation with Kierkegaard works I´ve read Fear and Trembling (a nice spanish translation) but sadly I left it when I moved from my native country 2 years ago. I would try to search in pdf or something the book that you just recommend me.

It's a section in his first work Either/Or. It should probably be online somewhere.

 

[zrdm1234]

Well, enough of us went on a holy crusade on women who could be strategic allies so.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Well, enough of us went on a holy crusade on women who could be strategic allies so.

Uh, what? Have you gotten to the point of posting on incels.is and still not realized that every cunt connives to cut you under and monopolize the world for her comfort and chad-chasing? If you mean to say that we could harness the corrosive envy of one cunt for another to sow discord in their ranks, I could understand where you're coming from. Beyond that, a cunt has no role as a strategic ally, excepting public suicide.

 

[Lifeissuffering]

I mean incels need all the allies we can get but I don't know if we can trust them

well, how much worse can it get?
we're already at the very bottom. what's a betrayal gonna do?