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Serious Brutal honesty what the fuck actually makes foids wet

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ColdCast said:
I overheard a foid in my uni course say to the other foid that she likes “big man who have big arms and look aged” whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean
But after 5 minutes she did a 360 to talk about the fact that she was gooning to those kpop sissies and would butt fuck one
There’s no hope for society its official
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I hate those fujoshis, kpop stans or whatever the fuck they're called. They're unironically worse than LA valley foids bc at least them you can avoid on the internet
 
LastGerman said:
So what? I could answer the question but why does it matter? You say or think that I have a frame. According to what? To you it does not even matter. For you it is just looks. So height does not matter, frame does not matter. So, why even bring up frame?
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Some thing matter more than others. Face rule supreme, but other factors also can make a difference
 
never can ascend said:
The NT Dominance Frame is Non Negotiable: Even Chads can fail if they act like cucks. Foids despise weakness. If you apologize for existing if you're always asking for permission if you're overly agreeable you're done. They want a man who leads makes decisions and doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. This is why "bad boys" always win.
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This is a good point that many people here don't know about. But I'd say that it applies to HTN or Chadlite at most, because Chad can get away with anything.
Foids want stereotyped hypermasculinity both in looks and behavior. I've seen guys get rejected from the femoids who had initially approached them for their looks, because they acted too effeminate, vulnerable, low libido, shy, ND, or not assertive enough in dates. Foids want Chad to treat them like holes.
But it doesn't matter for us who don't ever get that far.
 
Sex-Starved Beast said:
This is a good point that many people here don't know about. But I'd say that it applies to HTN or Chadlite at most, because Chad can get away with anything.
Foids want stereotyped hypermasculinity both in looks and behavior. I've seen guys get rejected from the femoids who had initially approached them for their looks, because they acted too effeminate, vulnerable, low libido, shy, ND, or not assertive enough in dates. Foids want Chad to treat them like holes.
But it doesn't matter for us who don't ever get that far.
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But what requirements are there for being a chad? Does it mean you have to look perfect in every singular way like every part of the face, posture, hair, haircut, beard/mustache, big dick, abs, muscles, clothing etc... or only in some of it?
 
never can ascend said:
But what requirements are there for being a chad? Does it mean you have to look perfect in every singular way like every part of the face, posture, hair, haircut, beard/mustache, big dick, abs, muscles, clothing etc... or only in some of it?
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Height and face, but what does it matter? You need to be someone who foids consider attractive, I don't know about the specifics.
 
Sex-Starved Beast said:
Height and face, but what does it matter? You need to be someone who foids consider attractive, I don't know about the specifics.
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Idk I'm just sperging constantly I barely even know what I'm saying anymore
 
never can ascend said:
Stop with the damn zoomer lingo I hate this utter shite
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never can ascend said:
I hate those fujoshis, kpop stans or whatever the fuck they're called. They're unironically worse than LA valley foids bc at least them you can avoid on the internet
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Literally only these fucking degenerates are crazy enough to not only talk to me but also gush about what their favorite Chad of the week wnd they want the top 1% of all chads but it’s always one of the ugliest whores out there saying this shit
 
If you are extremely attractive, you can be mute and still find someone to fuck.
 
Having a good personality and taking a shower obviously inkwell
 
Seen evidence of curries with disfigurements still ascend, though burns seem potentially more masculine compared to other skin problems like acne. Bones generally including maxilla and femur length probably more important than skin.

 
never can ascend said:
Been lurking for years time to post (ok not years but still long time). Full disclosure I'm a grAYcel and used an LLM to write this cuz my ESL ass can't articulate this shit properly in English so bear with me. This is my attempt at a structured blackpill breakdown.

SECTION 1: THE UNCHANGEABLE FOUNDATION (THE GENETIC LOTTERY)

This is the brutal truth nobody wants to admit. If you lost here you're playing life on nightmare mode.

  • Height and Frame: If you're under 6'0 with a weak chin and subhuman eye area you're basically invisible. Foids don't see you as a potential partner they see you as furniture or a potential threat. I've seen Chads with literally zero personality pull 8/10s just by existing. Meanwhile we're expected to have a PhD in comedy and be millionaire CEOs for a chance at a 4/10 landwhale who's "settling."
  • Face: It's not just one thing it's the whole package. Forward growth, hunter eyes, good jawline, decent nose. If you have a recessed maxilla it's fucking over. No amount of "mewing" will fix a subhuman skull.
  • Race and Ethnicity: This is the elephant in the room. Certain races have a brutal handicap in the dating market. If you're curry or rice you need to be a 9/10 just to compete with a 6/10 white normie. Foids have racial preferences and they're brutal.

SECTION 2: THE SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS

This is the secondary layer but still crucial.

  • Social Proof is Everything: Ever notice how a Chad gets MORE foid attention once he's in a relationship? It's the preselection effect. Foids are herd animals. If other foids want him he must be valuable. An incel could be perfect in every way but if no foid has ever validated him he's automatically creepy. It's a self fulfilling prophecy of loneliness.
  • Region Born Matters (Locationcel Theory): Where you're born is part of your genetic and social value. Being born in a Western country is a halo. Being born in some shithole country is a death sentence. Foids can smell it on you your accent your mannerisms your lack of cultural reference. Even if you move to the West you'll always be seen as "other" unless you're a 10/10 Chad.
  • The ESL Communication Death Sentence: Being an ESLcel is a special kind of hell. Even if you're decent looking if you can't communicate properly you're fucked. Foids see you as dumb or creepy immediately. They want smooth NT banter not some broken English struggle. It's over before it begins. Language ability is part of the NT package if you can't express yourself fluently you're automatically low status.

SECTION 3: THE ATTRACTION TAXONOMY (HOW FOIDS VIEW DIFFERENT MEN)

This is crucial. Foids don't have one type of attraction. It's completely different based on the man.

  • Chad (Genetic Superior): PURE LUST. She wants to fuck him immediately no questions asked. His personality is irrelevant. She'll degrade herself for him do anything he wants. This is visceral raw attraction.
  • High Status Normie (The Provider Lite): STATUS ATTRACTION. She's not necessarily horny for him but she wants the lifestyle the validation the social climbing. She'll tolerate sex with him for the benefits. It's a calculated decision.
  • Beta Bux (The Wallet): UTILITARIAN ATTRACTION. There's no real attraction at all. She sees him as a resource a wallet a utility. She's repulsed by him physically but will tolerate his presence for security. This is where most incels end up if they "ascend" through betabuxxing.

SECTION 4: THE COPE INDUSTRIES AND NEW OBSERVATIONS

  • Money is a cope unless you're ridiculously rich: This is where a lot of guys get it wrong. Being an accountant making 80k means nothing to foids. They want the guy who owns the company not the guy who works there. Unless you're driving a Lambo and have a yacht your "good job" is just beta bux potential. And even then she's fucking Chad on the side while you're working 60 hours a week.
  • The NT Dominance Frame is Non Negotiable: Even Chads can fail if they act like cucks. Foids despise weakness. If you apologize for existing if you're always asking for permission if you're overly agreeable you're done. They want a man who leads makes decisions and doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. This is why "bad boys" always win.
  • The Social Media Halo Effect: A foid's perception of your value is now directly tied to your social media presence. If you have no followers or shit posts you're automatically low value. If you're a Chad with thousands of followers you're a god. It's digital social proof on steroids.
  • The Agepill is Brutal for Men Too: We hear about the wall for foids but the agepill hits men hard in a different way. If you're a sub8 and you hit 30+ without having established your value it's fucking over. Foids see you as a failure. You needed to have secured your status in your 20s.

FINAL QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION:

So where does that leave us? If you're a sub5 ESL from a third world country you're playing life on legendary mode with no weapons. The genetic lottery locationcel and communication ability are the three pillars and if you fail at one you're fucked.

But I'm genuinely curious how do some non-truecel incels ascend? Is it just extreme locationmaxxing? Or is there some X factor I'm missing? At what point does money actually overcome these deficits? And how do foids differentiate between these attraction types in their minds?

What do you brocels think? Am I completely wrong here? Let me hear your experiences especially from other ESLcels and currycels.
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Saved.Thanks for the article btw
 
Nice post, wish I could articulate my thoughts like this
 
Useless thread
 
High iq thread
 
I feel like my problem is just that I’m so socially maladjusted and high inhib that I’m basically fucked.

I’m almost 100% sure it’s not my face Becuase my younger brother has a foid gf, despite being uglier than me and noticeably balding (so am I but I can hide it well with hairstyle and toppik while he has a shitty buzz cut that shows his recession and thinning).

he does have better teeth since my parents got him braces and not me, but overall my face is more harmonious and attractive than his. But he’s very low inhib and has good social skills.

So what’s the logical conclusion here??? It’s not my face. It’s my behavior, my demeanor, my mannerisms, my lack of confidence or self respect or balls.

I almost feel like that’s even worse than being a facecel because I can literally see my potential staring me right in the face when I look at my brother and his foid, but I’m too fucking high inhib to do anything about it.

I even stopped taking my lexapro cause I read a study that says it’ll ruin your dick.
 
Good personality, good self-grooming habits, good sense of humor, good self-esteem, confidence, good dress code, good social skills and respecting women is the only way you can make them wet.
 
No escape said:
Good personality, good self-grooming habits, good sense of humor, good self-esteem, confidence, good dress code, good social skills and respecting women is the only way you can make them wet.
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:feelsokman:
 
Gonna disagree with the being born in the west part. I'd even say you're at a disadvantage since you have to deal with pigs that think they deserve gold. Also gender role expectations are gone for women but not for men.
 
Wrongfully murdered children killed by machines without even being honored by human hands.
Tortured animals.
Serial killers who hate women because Bad Is Good Because Evil Is Good & Indifference Is Good.
Not 1 Moral
Not 1 Value
Has EVER ATTRACTED 1 WOMAN
No potential for change.
No potential even for rebranding.
The same Dark Empress.
New clothes.
Then newer clothes.
Then no clothes.
Then new clothes.
Human history.
Human prehistory.
Ruined entirely by womens evil.
 
never can ascend said:
Been lurking for years time to post (ok not years but still long time). Full disclosure I'm a grAYcel and used an LLM to write this cuz my ESL ass can't articulate this shit properly in English so bear with me. This is my attempt at a structured blackpill breakdown.

SECTION 1: THE UNCHANGEABLE FOUNDATION (THE GENETIC LOTTERY)

This is the brutal truth nobody wants to admit. If you lost here you're playing life on nightmare mode.

  • Height and Frame: If you're under 6'0 with a weak chin and subhuman eye area you're basically invisible. Foids don't see you as a potential partner they see you as furniture or a potential threat. I've seen Chads with literally zero personality pull 8/10s just by existing. Meanwhile we're expected to have a PhD in comedy and be millionaire CEOs for a chance at a 4/10 landwhale who's "settling."
  • Face: It's not just one thing it's the whole package. Forward growth, hunter eyes, good jawline, decent nose. If you have a recessed maxilla it's fucking over. No amount of "mewing" will fix a subhuman skull.
  • Race and Ethnicity: This is the elephant in the room. Certain races have a brutal handicap in the dating market. If you're curry or rice you need to be a 9/10 just to compete with a 6/10 white normie. Foids have racial preferences and they're brutal.

SECTION 2: THE SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS

This is the secondary layer but still crucial.

  • Social Proof is Everything: Ever notice how a Chad gets MORE foid attention once he's in a relationship? It's the preselection effect. Foids are herd animals. If other foids want him he must be valuable. An incel could be perfect in every way but if no foid has ever validated him he's automatically creepy. It's a self fulfilling prophecy of loneliness.
  • Region Born Matters (Locationcel Theory): Where you're born is part of your genetic and social value. Being born in a Western country is a halo. Being born in some shithole country is a death sentence. Foids can smell it on you your accent your mannerisms your lack of cultural reference. Even if you move to the West you'll always be seen as "other" unless you're a 10/10 Chad.
  • The ESL Communication Death Sentence: Being an ESLcel is a special kind of hell. Even if you're decent looking if you can't communicate properly you're fucked. Foids see you as dumb or creepy immediately. They want smooth NT banter not some broken English struggle. It's over before it begins. Language ability is part of the NT package if you can't express yourself fluently you're automatically low status.

SECTION 3: THE ATTRACTION TAXONOMY (HOW FOIDS VIEW DIFFERENT MEN)

This is crucial. Foids don't have one type of attraction. It's completely different based on the man.

  • Chad (Genetic Superior): PURE LUST. She wants to fuck him immediately no questions asked. His personality is irrelevant. She'll degrade herself for him do anything he wants. This is visceral raw attraction.
  • High Status Normie (The Provider Lite): STATUS ATTRACTION. She's not necessarily horny for him but she wants the lifestyle the validation the social climbing. She'll tolerate sex with him for the benefits. It's a calculated decision.
  • Beta Bux (The Wallet): UTILITARIAN ATTRACTION. There's no real attraction at all. She sees him as a resource a wallet a utility. She's repulsed by him physically but will tolerate his presence for security. This is where most incels end up if they "ascend" through betabuxxing.

SECTION 4: THE COPE INDUSTRIES AND NEW OBSERVATIONS

  • Money is a cope unless you're ridiculously rich: This is where a lot of guys get it wrong. Being an accountant making 80k means nothing to foids. They want the guy who owns the company not the guy who works there. Unless you're driving a Lambo and have a yacht your "good job" is just beta bux potential. And even then she's fucking Chad on the side while you're working 60 hours a week.
  • The NT Dominance Frame is Non Negotiable: Even Chads can fail if they act like cucks. Foids despise weakness. If you apologize for existing if you're always asking for permission if you're overly agreeable you're done. They want a man who leads makes decisions and doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. This is why "bad boys" always win.
  • The Social Media Halo Effect: A foid's perception of your value is now directly tied to your social media presence. If you have no followers or shit posts you're automatically low value. If you're a Chad with thousands of followers you're a god. It's digital social proof on steroids.
  • The Agepill is Brutal for Men Too: We hear about the wall for foids but the agepill hits men hard in a different way. If you're a sub8 and you hit 30+ without having established your value it's fucking over. Foids see you as a failure. You needed to have secured your status in your 20s.

FINAL QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION:

So where does that leave us? If you're a sub5 ESL from a third world country you're playing life on legendary mode with no weapons. The genetic lottery locationcel and communication ability are the three pillars and if you fail at one you're fucked.

But I'm genuinely curious how do some non-truecel incels ascend? Is it just extreme locationmaxxing? Or is there some X factor I'm missing? At what point does money actually overcome these deficits? And how do foids differentiate between these attraction types in their minds?

What do you brocels think? Am I completely wrong here? Let me hear your experiences especially from other ESLcels and currycels.
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When women look at me, they see an extremely ugly man. they look away or pretend not to see me because just making eye contact makes them feel disgusted. I’m a total mess, and there’s no way to change that. it’s fucking over :feelsrope: :blackpill:
 
getting cornered/graped/played by Chad... .
 
Chad makes them wet.
 
Good looks, socially adequate, high IQ, got shit together and ofc money
As we ALL know the rest is only there after good looks. However I see and hear the same things over and over by Men and Women. Particularly Men that are successful with Women
 
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