Brutal cyclepill

[VLÖ]

I've been thinking about this lately, you see people say shit like :

"You need hobbies, you're alone cause you don't have hobbies"

Now it's a well-known fact that people who are depressed have a hard of time finding joy in anything, hence why it's called "depression". When you're depressed you don't care about hobbies.

Now taking that into account, if I'm depressed because I'm alone, that means there's no way out! You're stuck in an infinte loop. 


Alone > I'm depressed > Not interested in hobbies > Alone and so on ad infinitum.

And don't say retarded shit like "Therapy!", if I know what's wrong with me, then how will some therapist who doesn't give a shit about me help? They're gonna spew stuff that doesn't address my core problem. "You need financial security, be open, be friendly blah blah etc" even though the problem is that I have nobody to talk to. 

Hopefully that can finally put the "hobby" cope to rest.

 

[WhoDisFam]

if I know what's wrong with me, then how will some therapist who doesn't give a shit about me help? They're gonna spew stuff that doesn't address my core problem.

Because their job is fixing mental issues which involve ways of perceiving things. The only reason you're not happy right now is because you perceive your lack of getting laid as something really terrible. I have friends who are incels but are fine with their life and focused on their own things for now. And guess what, they enjoy their hobbies regardless.

But that's all cope, amiright?

 

[NekoStance]

in this case, your hobbies should be escortcelling and shit, sex tourism and shit

 

[VLÖ]

Because their job is fixing mental issues which involve ways of perceiving things. The only reason you're not happy right now is because you perceive your lack of getting laid as something really terrible. I have friends who are incels but are fine with their life and focused on their own things for now. And guess what, they enjoy their hobbies regardless.

But that's all cope, amiright?

Read it again you neanderthal. I said I had nobody to talk to, not that "I wanted to get laid". But whatever, you're like a wall. Completely pointless to argue with.

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in this case, your hobbies should be escortcelling and shit, sex tourism and shit

I can't afford that.

 

[NekoStance]

in this case, your hobbies should be escortcelling and shit, sex tourism and shit

I can't afford that.

in this case your hobbies should be getting money and shit

 

[VLÖ]

in this case your hobbies should be getting money and shit

How is that a hobby? I'm not smart enough to work at home and school is mentally exhausting. I get no pleasure from it.

And getting a job is far from a hobby, as someone once said "It's fun until it becomes your job".

 

[NekoStance]

How is that a hobby? I'm not smart enough to work at home and school is mentally exhausting. I get no pleasure from it.

And getting a job is far from a hobby, as someone once said "It's fun until it becomes your job".

just sounds like continuous cope for me

but tbh I'm not smart either. I know there are guys here that made/make money just sitting on their computers at home.

 

[WhoDisFam]

I said I had nobody to talk to.

And why is that?

Read it again you neanderthal... But whatever, you're like a wall. Completely pointless to argue with.

Obviously not because of your personality though. Therefore nothing that you can voluntarily change.

 

[VLÖ]

just sounds like continuous cope for me

but tbh I'm not smart either. I know there are guys here that made/make money just sitting on their computers at home.

How is this a cope? I can't force myself to do anything, do you even know what "cope" means?

Cryptocurrency is risky and freelancing requires certain skill (programming, graphics etc) which I don't have. I also have a really shitty computer and surprise surprise I can't afford a new one. I have to pay for other expenses too you know.

"Just stop eating brah" or "just eat disgusting cheap shit brah" fuck off with that.

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And why is that?

Obviously not because of your personality though. Therefore nothing that you can voluntarily change.

>personality

>change

Come on cucktears, at least study the shit you spew.

 

[WhoDisFam]

>personality

>change

Come on cucktears, at least study the shit you spew.

That's pretty funny, know why? I was a very shy person back in high school that couldn't even talk to a girl. I was needy, introverted, unconfident, I argued a lot and wasn't socially tuned that well. But over the next 5 years, I spent many hours working on those things and now I'm a much better person. So don't tell me that you can't change your personality because that's either cope or you being unwilling to put in the effort.

 

[Deleted member 279]

That's pretty funny, know why? I was a very shy person back in high school that couldn't even talk to a girl. I was needy, introverted, unconfident, I argued a lot and wasn't socially tuned that well. But over the next 5 years, I spent many hours working on those things and now I'm a much better person. So don't tell me that you can't change your personality because that's either cope or you being unwilling to put in the effort.

You're still a faggot though, have you tried working on that?

 

[VLÖ]

That's pretty funny, know why? I was a very shy person back in high school that couldn't even talk to a girl. I was needy, introverted, unconfident, I argued a lot and wasn't socially tuned that well. But over the next 5 years, I spent many hours working on those things and now I'm a much better person. So don't tell me that you can't change your personality.

And let me guess, all you did was "learn to respect women"? LMAO 
You're not fooling anyone here. If you claim you became that much better, why are you here?

 

[WhoDisFam]

And let me guess, all you did was "learn to respect women"? LMAO 
You're not fooling anyone here. If you claim you became that much better, why are you here?

If anything, it's the opposite, girls love to be talked down on and treated like shit as long as it is playful as I learned from my player friend and saw for myself. Makes me laugh at shit like feminism and "muh respect and equality".

 

[VLÖ]

If anything, it's the opposite, girls love to be talked down on and treated like shit as long as it is playful as I learned from my player friend and saw for myself. Makes me laugh at shit like feminism and "muh respect and equality".

So first you tell me bullshit about "changing my personality" and now you turn to some TRP bullshit to damage control. Which is it?
Or maybe you're just fishing for whatever you can, probably waiting for me to say "I already treat women like shit" so you can go "hah, das y ur insell! xdd le smug face".  Your attempts at bait are pretty shit tbh.

 

[WhoDisFam]

So first you tell me bullshit about "changing my personality" and now you turn to some TRP bullshit to damage control. Which is it?
Or maybe you're just fishing for whatever you can, probably waiting for me to say "I already treat women like shit" so you can go "hah, das y ur insell! xdd le smug face".  Your attempts at bait are pretty shit tbh.

No damage control here, I'm just stating that "respecting women" wasn't my goal or what I changed about myself at all. You can change your personality, and good game does involve playful teasing and shit talking. Treating someone like shit and playfully doing so are different things, just being mysogynistic won't get you far unless you have looks to match it up.

 

[Deleted member 236]

Thought this thread was going to be about cycling.

 

[VLÖ]

No damage control here, I'm just stating that "respecting women" wasn't my goal or what I changed about myself at all. You can change your personality, and good game does involve playful teasing and shit talking. Treating someone like shit and playfully doing so are different things, just being mysogynistic won't get you far unless you have looks to match it up.

So what did you change about yourself? Obviously it had to have been something, right? What amazing triumph did you go through to make you so proud of yourself? What did you do to change your personality? Have a therapist give you a magic piece of paper that declared "You now have a slayer personality, congratz!" LMAO  Or maybe it's "traveling", you know standing around a bunch of strangers that might as well be your hometown.

Also JFL @ doing any of this "playful teasing" when you're ugly. Best case scenario is that she will look at you with disgust and ignore you. Worst case scenario is getting rape charges and/or her Chad friend kicking the shit out of you. 

GTFO cucktears.

 

[NekoStance]

How is this a cope? I can't force myself to do anything, do you even know what "cope" means?

Cryptocurrency is risky and freelancing requires certain skill (programming, graphics etc) which I don't have. I also have a really shitty computer and surprise surprise I can't afford a new one. I have to pay for other expenses too you know.

"Just stop eating brah" or "just eat disgusting cheap shit brah" fuck off with that.

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>personality

>change

Come on cucktears, at least study the shit you spew.

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just this whole thread reeks of cope

why don't you just go ahead and kill yourself already then? I sympathise with incels but a guy that just sits at home and does nothing but complain, I find annoying

EDIT: I see you are from Eastern Europe. I can't really relate to guys out there, their problems are utterly different than to where I'm from

 

[VLÖ]

Thought this thread was going to be about cycling.

Cycling is a good cope if you can do it.

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just this whole thread reeks of cope

why don't you just go ahead and kill yourself already then? I sympathise with incels but a guy that just sits at home and does nothing but complain, I find annoying

I don't sit at home, I already said I go to school. I try to talk to people. I do all those things, just that they're very short and the people I talk to are uninterested. I'm a boring person, I can't do shit about it. If you have some magic cure that increases motivation, link me it.

Also you are yet to realize what "cope" actually means.

 

[NekoStance]

Cycling is a good cope if you can do it.

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I don't sit at home, I already said I go to school. I try to talk to people. I do all those things, just that they're very short and the people I talk to are uninterested. I'm a boring person, I can't do shit about it. If you have some magic cure that increases motivation, link me it.

Also you are yet to realize what "cope" actually means.

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Sorry:

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]EDIT: I see you are from Eastern Europe. I can't really relate to guys out there, their problems are utterly different than to where I'm from[/font]

 

[kodoku]

Because their job is fixing mental issues which involve ways of perceiving things. The only reason you're not happy right now is because you perceive your lack of getting laid as something really terrible. I have friends who are incels but are fine with their life and focused on their own things for now. And guess what, they enjoy their hobbies regardless.

But that's all cope, amiright?

Neck urself normaloid

 

[WhoDisFam]

So what did you change about yourself? Obviously it had to have been something, right? What amazing triumph did you go through to make you so proud of yourself? What did you do to change your personality?

Ok, I'll tell you.
Main thing is extraversion & confidence. Before, in a social setting, I would withdraw with my group of friends. Now I can go out and talk to other people and girls. 
Opinions of others don't bother me that much anymore. 
In a class, I can easily start a chat with someone beside me and make a friend. I went from knowing 6 or so people to over 20, and it's only that cause I'm not a fan of knowing too many people as it gets draining. 
Because of this, I went on my first dates for the first time in my life. I can also now approach girls in public sometimes and whilst haven't gotten laid from that, I did get some numbers which is good progress thus far for me.

I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm just coping though, amiright?

Also JFL @ doing any of this "playful teasing" when you're ugly. Best case scenario is that she will look at you with disgust and ignore you. Worst case scenario is getting rape charges and/or her Chad friend kicking the shit out of you. 

You do it with girls who you have a chance with. I've tried to tease plenty of very pretty girls and they mostly just give me a dirty look and move on. Not like I care though. But for some girls around me or less than me in looks, it works pretty well.

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You're still a faggot though, have you tried working on that?

Got 'em

Neck urself normaloid

Got 'em again. At least put effort into the insults, these don't even register as insults with how low effort they are.  :tounge:

 

[VLÖ]

Ok, I'll tell you.
Main thing is extraversion & confidence. Before, in a social setting, I would withdraw with my group of friends. Now I can go out and talk to other people and girls. 

>muh konfundnce and extroversion

Heard that one a million times. Guess what? It doesn't work.

Opinions of others don't bother me that much anymore. 
In a class, I can easily start a chat with someone beside me and make a friend. I went from knowing 6 or so people to over 20, and it's only that cause I'm not a fan of knowing too many people as it gets draining. 
Because of this, I went on my first dates for the first time in my life. I can also now approach girls in public sometimes and whilst haven't gotten laid from that, I did get some numbers which is good progress thus far for me.

I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm just coping though, amiright?

That was some pretty vague bullshit. So all you did was just stop caring and everyone suddenly wanted to be your friend?
Wow! Almost as if nothing was wrong with you in the first place!

You do it with girls who you have a chance with. I've tried to tease plenty of very pretty girls and they mostly just give me a dirty look and move on. Not like I care though. But for some girls around me or less than me in looks, it works pretty well.

LMAO
"I've teased pretty girls" that's not how it works you moron. You can't tease someone who has ZERO interest in you. It's not teasing, it's being ANNOYING.

 

[BeepBeepAmJeep]

If anything, it's the opposite, girls love to be talked down on and treated like shit as long as it is playful as I learned from my player friend and saw for myself. Makes me laugh at shit like feminism and "muh respect and equality".

/r/TRP pls go

 

[kodoku]

Ok, I'll tell you.
Main thing is extraversion & confidence. Before, in a social setting, I would withdraw with my group of friends. Now I can go out and talk to other people and girls. 
Opinions of others don't bother me that much anymore. 
In a class, I can easily start a chat with someone beside me and make a friend. I went from knowing 6 or so people to over 20, and it's only that cause I'm not a fan of knowing too many people as it gets draining. 
Because of this, I went on my first dates for the first time in my life. I can also now approach girls in public sometimes and whilst haven't gotten laid from that, I did get some numbers which is good progress thus far for me.

I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm just coping though, amiright?

You do it with girls who you have a chance with. I've tried to tease plenty of very pretty girls and they mostly just give me a dirty look and move on. Not like I care though. But for some girls around me or less than me in looks, it works pretty well.

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Got 'em

Got 'em again. At least put effort into the insults, these don't even register as insults with how low effort they are.  :tounge:

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I don't even put effort in my final projects

@mental_out  pls

 

[WhoDisFam]

>muh konfundnce and extroversion

Heard that one a million times. Guess what? It doesn't work.

I mean, it worked for me, don't know what to say here.

That was some pretty vague bullshit. So all you did was just stop caring and everyone suddenly wanted to be your friend?
Wow! Almost as if nothing was wrong with you in the first place!

Nope, that was because I was more outgoing, socially tuned and didn't argue as much. Probably also cause I took care of myself way more as well. Not caring was just a benefit for myself.

LMAO
"I've teased pretty girls" that's not how it works you moron. You can't tease someone who has ZERO interest in you. It's not teasing, it's being ANNOYING.

Hence the "[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]You do it with girls who you have a chance with." Did you even read my response aha[/font]

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/r/TRP pls go
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Unfortunately not mysogynistic enough to be part of their club  :'( , I actually like spending time with girls.[/font]

 

[VLÖ]

I mean, it worked for me, don't know what to say here.

No it didn't, because there was nothing wrong with you.

Nope, that was because I was more outgoing, socially tuned and didn't argue as much. Not caring was just a benefit for myself.

What the fuck does that mean? So basically you just took it up the ass or what? What does "more outgoing" mean, hm? Let me say it again, there was nothing wrong with you. 

Hence the "[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]You do it with girls who you have a chance with." Did you even read my response aha[/font]

No but you said you attempted to "tease" (LMAO) pretty girls, which I promptly corrected. I can see why you stopped arguing, you're fucking bad at it lol.

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Unfortunately not mysogynistic enough to be part of their club  :'( , I actually like spending time with girls.[/font]

Post pictures, we'll see if women actually enjoy spending time with you.
Oh wait, you'll say "they like me for my personality" LMAO. Megacuck.

 

[blickpall]

And don't say retarded shit like "Therapy!", if I know what's wrong with me, then how will some therapist who doesn't give a shit about me help? They're gonna spew stuff that doesn't address my core problem. "You need financial security, be open, be friendly blah blah etc" even though the problem is that I have nobody to talk to.

Hopefully that can finally put the "hobby" cope to rest.

Therapist in this case would just tell you to break the cycle by giving you "homework" to get the fuck out of the house and go do shit even if you don't feel like it because as you accurately described, this cycle is self-fueling and you will not find a solution while stuck in it. The therapist who doesn't give a shit about you is much better at solving your situation than you are because 1) you are one of the few depressed people you're trying to fix, whereas they have tried to fix many, 2) you are biased towards yourself and won't willingly do anything that is difficult or goes against your predetermined beliefs, as you are demonstrating with your head-in-ass responses here.

You say you're a boring person - well, maybe that's because you don't lead a fulfilling life that allows you have interesting narratives? Solution: go do shit.

I'm sure that using the failings of @WhoDisFam to explain shit that apparently they are just as ignorant of as you are as a reason to go on a venomous tirade made you feel slightly superior and better about yourself for a moment, but the fact remains that personality can and does change to some degree over time (p = .6 over a ten year period for the average adult). It's about what you're doing to influence that change, which is again: go do shit. If you just spew hateful ignorant shit online, feel too defeated by the real world to do anything but LDAR, then you will just self-inject the same thoughts and behaviors over and over until you become a monochromatic shitstain on your bed.

If you made this thread just to vent, then that's fine. But don't make ignorant claims about shit you don't know about. No real CBT therapist will ever tell you "Go change your personality," that's what people who have seen too many stereotypical therapists in movies, cartoons, and anecdotes believe. Get over yourself thinking that you have all the answers as an undergraduate student undergoing depression, you are not a special snowflake that can overcome years of collaborative study and research through simplistic nay-saying.

 

[VLÖ]

Therapist in this case would just tell you to break the cycle by giving you "homework" to get the fuck out of the house and go do shit even if you don't feel like it because as you accurately described, this cycle is self-propagating and you will not find a solution while stuck in it. The therapist who doesn't give a shit about you is much better at solving your situation than you are because 1) you are one of the few depressed people you're trying to fix, whereas they have tried to fix many, 2) you are biased towards yourself and won't willingly do anything that is difficult or goes against your predetermined beliefs, as you are demonstrating with your head-in-ass responses here.

You say you're a boring person - well, maybe that's because you don't lead a fulfilling life that allows you have interesting narratives? Solution: go do shit.

I'm sure that using the failings of @WhoDisFam to explain shit that apparently they are just as ignorant of as you are as a reason to go on a venomous tirade made you feel slightly superior and better about yourself for a moment, but the fact remains that personality can and does change to some degree over time (p = .6 over a ten year period for the average adult). It's about what you're doing to influence that change, which is again: go do shit. If you just spew hateful ignorant shit online, feel too defeated by the real world to do anything but LDAR, then you will just self-inject the same thoughts and behaviors over and over until you become a monochromatic shitstain on your bed.

If you made this thread just to vent, then that's fine. But don't make ignorant claims about shit you don't know about. No real CBT therapist will ever tell you "Go change your personality," that's what people who have seen too many stereotypical therapists in movies, cartoons, and anecdotes believe. Get over yourself thinking that you have all the answers as an undergraduate student undergoing depression, you are not a special snowflake that can overcome years of collaborative study and research through simplistic nay-saying.

First of all, why are you agreeing with a literal cucktears troll?

Second, I have no motivation to do anything. You say "go do shit", but I just won't. You'll say "your fault then", but then I still won't because I don't want to. I can't force myself. I just fucking can't. I don't have the willpower. I keep forgetting about it . I don't know what bullshit you're pulling here about claiming I'm intellectually superior or something, when I clearly haven't? When have I said I was smarter than someone? You know none of you have addressed my core problem, I don't want to be alone. Yet you tell me to go "do shit". Do what? I'm not interested in anything. I don't feel joy from anything. Sure they might be awesome activities, but I feel numb. 

Sure you got it great, wanting to become some huge smartass philosopher. Good for you if you have the motivation, but don't assume I do. Ultimately I know myself more than some therapist ever will, and if you say otherwise you're just ignorant yourself.

 

[WhoDisFam]

No it didn't, because there was nothing wrong with you.

Guess my social anxiety was as much of an issue as your depression is. By that logic, there's nothing wrong with you too.

What the fuck does that mean? So basically you just took it up the ass or what? What does "more outgoing" mean, hm? Let me say it again, there was nothing wrong with you. 

Outgoing as in striking up and holding conversations with people that I don't know well.

I can see why you stopped arguing, you're fucking bad at it lol.

Lool, that's pretty funny actually, not bad.

At the end of the day, you can either listen to my advice or not, it won't change anything for me. If you wanna believe that personality doesn't matter in the least and it plays 0 role in attraction, then do so. I'm just trying to help you out dude.

 

[blickpall]

First of all, why are you agreeing with a literal cucktears troll?

I judge ideas in a vacuum and while his explanations and presentation of it are bad, the core concept is valid.

Second of all, I have no motivation to do anything. You say "go do shit", but I just won't. You'll say "your fault then", but then I still won't because I don't want to. I can't force myself. I just fucking can't. I don't have the willpower.

This is what a specialist would help you handle. Perhaps by changing your perspective on what motivation/willpower are. I'm not trained in that area, but I do know that motivation/willpower are mercurial feelings that are flimsy, you can't rely on them. You have to rely on dedication and discipline. I'm going to guess that you're lacking in that department too, so you will have to start simple: something like, "I will do 10 push-ups every morning," or whatever other minor equivalent you can think of that is basically just a daily goal that you will follow no matter what. After doing this for a couple of weeks, you can then add another minor goal that you will do every day, just to build discipline. When you fuck up, "forget," (just lol at "forgetting" things when you can write notes, set phone reminders, alarm clocks, etc. what a fucking cope), you punish yourself by removing something from your life that you enjoy or cope with for that day. Slowly but surely you begin to have the discipline to do shit that you think is pointless/won't bring you enjoyment.

However, let's not pretend that you don't have any willpower - if you say that you are in university, and that you try talking to people, that means you do shit that you don't feel like doing all the time by definition. I'm sure you don't feel like going to class because of muh depression, don't feel like talking to people because despite being lonely and wanting to solve it, muh personality gets in the way. But you do it anyway, I assume? Channel some of that shit, whatever it is that makes you go through that, to doing something else productive. Let me clue you in, even non-depressed people don't look forward to doing things sometimes. But when they get there, they generally have a good time. You might not have as good a time, but as long as you are out trying shit, you can at least say that you tried. No one is going to fix your life but you. You recognize the cycle so go do something change it. If you don't want to, then that's cool. Don't waste everyone's time whining about it, then.

I don't know what bullshit you're pulling here about claiming I'm intellectually superior or something, when I clearly haven't? When have I said I was smarter than someone?

I said that you feel superior about yourself, because you got to put someone down over the internet because you disagree with their misconceptions about something you don't feel like doing.

You know none of you have addressed my core problem, I don't want to be alone. Yet you tell me to go "do shit". Do what? I'm not interested in anything. I don't feel joy from anything. Sure they might be awesome activities, but I feel numb.

Addressed above. Maybe you won't get up off your ass until your desire to no longer be alone outweighs your pathetic lack of discipline. Who knows. If only you know yourself better than some therapist ever will, perhaps you can figure out how to motivate yourself? Or does your self-understanding not reach those levels?

Sure you got it great, wanting to become some huge smartass philosopher. Good for you if you have the motivation, but don't assume I do. Ultimately I know myself more than some therapist ever will, and if you say otherwise you're just ignorant yourself.

Don't want to be a philosopher, do want to correct misconceptions that fuel the same cycle you're bitching about. Basically this whole thread is:

"Waaaah I'm depressed,"
"Do something to fix it."
"Waaaah I don't wanna."
"See a specialist who can help."
"No they don't know shit I know what's best for me clearly, see how great it's been working out?"

Maybe when you accept that you don't have all the answers, that while you may know more factoids about your own life than anyone else, that that is not necessary to helping a person. A therapist doesn't perform some magic by combining all of the elements of your life story (which you subjectively provide) into some new configuration that you've never seen, for the most part. They see the similarities between you and the dozens of other people who had the same exact issue as you, and then tell you what those other people did to fix it. You make it sound like just because no one has spent every waking moment in your head like you have, then they don't know shit about how to improve your life. That's just moronic.

 

[Deleted member 1627]

Guess my social anxiety was as much of an issue as your depression is. By that logic, there's nothing wrong with you too.

Outgoing as in striking up and holding conversations with people that I don't know well.


Lool, that's pretty funny actually, not bad.

At the end of the day, you can either listen to my advice or not, it won't change anything for me. If you wanna believe that personality doesn't matter in the least and it plays 0 role in attraction, then do so. I'm just trying to help you out dude.

Personality doesn't matter

 

[WhoDisFam]

Yet you tell me to go "do shit". Do what? I'm not interested in anything. I don't feel joy from anything. Sure they might be awesome activities, but I feel numb. 

Social anhedonia is defined as a trait-like disinterest in social contact and is characterized by social withdrawal and decreased pleasure in social situations... This trait is currently seen as a central characteristic to, as well as a predictor of, schizophrenia spectrum disorders,[19] as it is seen as a potential evolution of most personality disorders, if the patient is above age 24, when prodromal schizophrenia may be excluded.

You should really see a doctor or something man.

 

[blickpall]

Personality doesn't matter

OP literally said he was boring.

 

[VLÖ]

I judge ideas in a vacuum and while his explanations and presentation of it are bad, the core concept is valid.


This is what a specialist would help you handle. Perhaps by changing your perspective on what motivation/willpower are. I'm not trained in that area, but I do know that motivation/willpower are mercurial feelings that are flimsy, you can't rely on them. You have to rely on dedication and discipline. I'm going to guess that you're lacking in that department too, so you will have to start simple: something like, "I will do 10 push-ups every morning," or whatever other minor equivalent you can think of that is basically just a daily goal that you will follow no matter what. After doing this for a couple of weeks, you can then add another minor goal that you will do every day, just to build discipline. When you fuck up, "forget," (just lol at "forgetting" things when you can write notes, set phone reminders, alarm clocks, etc. what a fucking cope), you punish yourself by removing something from your life that you enjoy or cope with for that day. Slowly but surely you begin to have the discipline to do shit that you think is pointless/won't bring you enjoyment.

However, let's not pretend that you don't have any willpower - if you say that you are in university, and that you try talking to people, that means you do shit that you don't feel like doing all the time by definition. I'm sure you don't feel like going to class because of muh depression, don't feel like talking to people because despite being lonely and wanting to solve it, muh personality gets in the way. But you do it anyway, I assume? Channel some of that shit, whatever it is that makes you go through that, to doing some productive. Let me clue you in, even non-depressed people don't look forward to doing things sometimes. But when they get there, they generally have a good time. You might not have as good a time, but as long as you are out trying shit, you can at least say that you tried. No one is going to fix your life but you. You recognize the cycle so go do something change it. If you don't want to, then that's cool.


I said that you feel superior about yourself, because you got to put someone down over the internet because you disagree with their misconceptions about something you don't feel like doing.


Addressed above. Maybe you won't get up off your ass until your desire to no longer be alone outweighs your pathetic lack of discipline. Who knows. If only you know yourself better than some therapist ever will, perhaps you can figure out how to motivate yourself? Or does your self-understanding not reach those levels?


Don't want to be a philosopher, do want to correct misconceptions that fuel the same cycle you're bitching about. Basically this whole thread is:

"Waaaah I'm depressed,"
"Do something to fix it."
"Waaaah I don't wanna."
"See a specialist who can help."
"No they don't know shit I know what's best for me clearly, see how great it's been working out?"

Maybe when you accept that you don't have all the answers, that while you may know more factoids about your own life than anyone else, that that is not necessary to helping a person. A therapist doesn't perform some magic by combining all of the elements of your life story (which you subjectively provide) into some new configuration that you've never seen, for the most part. They see the similarities between you and the dozens of other people who had the same exact issue as you, and then tell you what those other people did to fix it. You make it sound like just because no one has spent every waking moment in your head like you have, then they don't know shit about how to improve your life. That's just moronic.

Why would I want to discipline myself? That's like whipping yourself, fucking pointless. I won't do self-harm, why would I want to? Also I can easily ignore those alarms/notes too. Am I selfish? Am I arrogant? Yeah probably, but I don't want to change that.

You're trying way too hard here to seem like you know everything. If you understand therapy so much become a therapist, otherwise what you're saying is meaningless. You're just like everyone else, you cannot fathom something different so you just get angry when someone can't do something you find so easy. And maybe my life has been that fucked up, how do you know? You're just assuming shit now, like somehow I have millions of other soulmates who have grown up exactly the same as I have.

And just to prove you're full of shit, I have been to a psychiatrist. And she just told me to "focus on my material needs" (since I live in pretty much poverty). Completely useless advice, since I can't change any of those right now. If life was as easy as you made it out, this whole site wouldn't exist. The people who are fucking deformed might as well go see a "muh therapist" too then? 

If I don't want to do something then I just won't. I only go to school because I have to otherwise I'll be homeless. And neither you nor some therapist can change that. I'm done arguing.

 

[blickpall]

I'm done arguing.

You never started fam. Best of luck.

 

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This. As an incel you can't do shit. All these Normies that have hobbies also have regural sex to keep them happy.

 

[whogivesafucc]

And let me guess, all you did was "learn to respect women"? LMAO
You're not fooling anyone here. If you claim you became that much better, why are you here?

If anything, it's the opposite, girls love to be talked down on and treated like shit as long as it is playful as I learned from my player friend and saw for myself. Makes me laugh at shit like feminism and "muh respect and equality".

the fuck is a cringy PUA/TRP cuck doing here? Dude, fuck off. Literally.

No one here will ever be able to "talk down" to a girl and treat her like shit, we'd be in jail if we do.

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>muh konfundnce and extroversion
Heard that one a million times. Guess what? It doesn't work.

I mean, it worked for me, don't know what to say here.

That was some pretty vague bullshit. So all you did was just stop caring and everyone suddenly wanted to be your friend?
Wow! Almost as if nothing was wrong with you in the first place!

Nope, that was because I was more outgoing, socially tuned and didn't argue as much. Probably also cause I took care of myself way more as well. Not caring was just a benefit for myself.

LMAO
"I've teased pretty girls" that's not how it works you moron. You can't tease someone who has ZERO interest in you. It's not teasing, it's being ANNOYING.

Hence the "[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]You do it with girls who you have a chance with." Did you even read my response aha[/font]
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/r/TRP pls go
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Unfortunately not mysogynistic enough to be part of their club :'( , I actually like spending time with girls.[/font]

Yeah, it worked for you maybe because THERE WAS NO PROBLEM WITH YOUR LOOKS? Just lol, stop caring what people think, guys. Go out there and embarrass yourself daily while people laugh at you behind your back. Hey, it worked for the upper-tier normie/Chadlite over here, it'll be the same result for you if you're <5 PSL

 

[kodoku]

Mods are cucked already, I'd nuke that WhoDis dude at first sight

 

[FeminismsCancer]

Because their job is fixing mental issues which involve ways of perceiving things. The only reason you're not happy right now is because you perceive your lack of getting laid as something really terrible. I have friends who are incels but are fine with their life and focused on their own things for now. And guess what, they enjoy their hobbies regardless.

But that's all cope, amiright?

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