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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...ChAB#v=onepage&q=aryan etymology&f=falseThere hasn't been any significant gene flow to curry land for the last 10 to 15 thousand years.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1380230/
This shows all our fatherly lines for atleast the last 7 millenia have not had much external gene flow.
Separating the post-Glacial coancestry of European and Asian Y chromosomes within haplogroup R1a
This shows us that caste is indigenous to India.
Separating the post-Glacial coancestry of European and Asian Y chromosomes within haplogroup R1a
So not only are we not mutts we are not a result of proto indo european rape babies know you know the other arguments i have heard made is the high presence of R1A Haplogroup their is some issues with this i have found and some confusions.
1 haplogroup doesn't measure recent gene-type if that were the case the Australoid of Australia would be Nordic Europeans. All it measures is a common ancestor. so for instance say we were originally Australoid but lets say some Europeans had genetic connections with the Australoid but then the Australoid diverged out and mutated over thousands of years they still would have the halo type but their blood types and genes would be very different.
2 Rebuttal the frequencies of R1A is found every where in India including the smaller regional areas sure it's higher amounts within north westerners but that's not cause of an invasion that's simple cause of geographic locationing.
As their was some evidence found that elamite populations with the highest frequencies of R1A Bred with the inhabitants of mohinjendaro or the IVC to produce us basically the reason north westerners get more is cause they stayed within the northern region they didn't migrate and diverged as much.
So it's not invasion they just retained it the caste was set up to retain what was already their it wasn't some invasion from foreign lands the higher amounts of Neolithic Iranian those from the Elam region were already native to our lands.
2. Another thing to be noted is the cherry picking of certain words like Aryan these terms are used very differently from the Persians and us for the Persians it's a ethnic term to describe themselves which itself derived from Sanskrit if anything they copied from us not the other way around and you wanna know how we know ? any writing we do get of their texts is way later.
You see the earliest avestian manuscripts it's dated to 1200 CE The rig Veda is at-least 3000 years old sanskrit is dated to 5000 BCE so if anything they copied from us not the other way around.
The other argument which i keep hearing over and over again is the similarities in phonetics my response would simple be use logic here bramha and abraham sound similar but do they mean similar things well lets see.
Bramha translates to Para Brahman', the Supreme Consciousness, Absolute Reality, Supreme Godhead.
And Abraham translates to father of many.
Do you see the inconsistencies of this.
Lets compare deva with deava.
Deva Translates to ‘shining one’, later ‘god’.
Daeva roots translate it to daeva (plural daevas)(Zoroastrianism) A supernatural entity of disagreeable nature.
Words sound similar but they mean very different things. I have seen the argument even being made Zoroastrianism is an inversion of the Rig Vedas. However as we know the latest writing of the Zoroastrian faith is only recent to 1100 ce before that it's all oral tradition which we know is very likely to be corruptible.
So even even if it were a inversion the possibility still arises that they copied from us not the other way around. Their texts came about way later so their is no way they brought the religion over here it seemed to be indigenous to our area.If their is a connection it's them stealing from us and that connection came about way later not earlier their is also evidence of them stealing from the Christians.
Another thing to be called out here which destroys any claim to Aryan being a genetic thing is that in the Rig Vedas whilst it's true they distinguish between dasas and Aryans. The distinguishing line is over Ideology and not physical appearances.That blows out the water any genetic claim to the Aryan name. also the Rig Veda they had the varnum system not the Caste system we think off as today. The varnum system was to preserve blood line not race since we already know Indians are already closer to each other anyways.
And even the preserving blood concept wasn't intended by Krishna it was supposed to be based on merit the British made this way worse but mughals started the flames the Brits fuled the fire fuck em honestly.
Aryans in the Rigveda
books.google.co.uk
The last argument I wanted to destroy specifically is the idea the language of Sanskrit and Vedas being foreign to India and brought to us by invaders. I want people to actually think about this argument for a sec.Your telling me sub 80 IQ archaic nord niggers the proto yamayna came and conquered a technologically advanced civilization which had had advanced metallurgy then then went onto introduce the religion of the vedics and then to create Sanskrit ?.
Remember in the Greek times nord niggers were called out for what they rightly were snow niggers they were thought to be incapable of building civilizations they were very much so barbarians and these niggers are gonna be creating sanskrit they can't even fix their own civilizations around this time let alone conquer others.
Added to this lets apply simply occams razor.
Scenario 1 The IVC starts to go down around 1500 or 3000 bce they won't let you have 3000 thousand though and say your peddling psedo science so okay well go with 1500 BCE do you know what was happening during that 1500 bce ? the river sarawati started to dry coincidentally near the time that civilization.
Scenario 2 their was some invasion from these niggers do you see how barren their land is ?
And they took down this I swear the AIT advocates are delusional.
Proto nord cucks (either siniastha androvodo or yamayna) took down intellectually superior peoples ? and then set up the vedic religions ? and the languages are they delusional morons.Another thing is aryan means 1 who does noble deeds so lets say their was an invasion how would it be noble to take down an intellectually superior peoples and peoples who were very peaceful.
The perpetrators of this bullshit theory was no other than miss Helena Blavatsky these bastards wanted to steal our history they were colonists
Something unrelated that i have to bite the bullet on unfortunately the early rig Vedas is quite Manichean and Gnostic you have a clear conception of a good god vs evil later on as the Vedas developed you started to get more monotheistic and skeptical traditions.
The Upanishads is the central doctrine a Hindu should follow in my opinion as it is way more intellectual and philosophical it's not Manichean either.
@Transcended Trucel I think our history is greater than we thought not only are we not mutts our history goes back way way way further our language is unique to us and no 1 else. Any time similar words were used in the Avesta texts it is so long after that we can claim they stole from us or at the very least the 2 are used in different contexts and don't mean the same thing.
I still can't accept pakis hate curries and try to be sand nigger when our history is morally and intellectually superior for the most part morally i would say for sure ancient india had way less slavery the Arabs and the Arabs were the ones denoting Africans as less than apes. If we practiced slavery it was mainly a soft form of it that's not to excuse it but the levels we done is way less and it is shown in our DNA the average curry scores less than 1 percent African average Arab is like 10 to 5 percent makes you think.
It wasn't us calling Negros inferior hell we had a negro king we didn't even leave the subcontinent that much hell when we did colonize other nations the religions we brought were really kind and their still with us to this day. Most of our colonialism brought Buddhism to the land.No sane man can argue Buddhism is objectively a bad faith or that it destroys the culture of the land.
I've noticed a theme with south east Asians and curries in General our religions bring peace near eastern ones bring war blood and destruction.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1380230/
This shows all our fatherly lines for atleast the last 7 millenia have not had much external gene flow.
Separating the post-Glacial coancestry of European and Asian Y chromosomes within haplogroup R1a
This shows us that caste is indigenous to India.
Separating the post-Glacial coancestry of European and Asian Y chromosomes within haplogroup R1a
So not only are we not mutts we are not a result of proto indo european rape babies know you know the other arguments i have heard made is the high presence of R1A Haplogroup their is some issues with this i have found and some confusions.
1 haplogroup doesn't measure recent gene-type if that were the case the Australoid of Australia would be Nordic Europeans. All it measures is a common ancestor. so for instance say we were originally Australoid but lets say some Europeans had genetic connections with the Australoid but then the Australoid diverged out and mutated over thousands of years they still would have the halo type but their blood types and genes would be very different.
2 Rebuttal the frequencies of R1A is found every where in India including the smaller regional areas sure it's higher amounts within north westerners but that's not cause of an invasion that's simple cause of geographic locationing.
As their was some evidence found that elamite populations with the highest frequencies of R1A Bred with the inhabitants of mohinjendaro or the IVC to produce us basically the reason north westerners get more is cause they stayed within the northern region they didn't migrate and diverged as much.
So it's not invasion they just retained it the caste was set up to retain what was already their it wasn't some invasion from foreign lands the higher amounts of Neolithic Iranian those from the Elam region were already native to our lands.
2. Another thing to be noted is the cherry picking of certain words like Aryan these terms are used very differently from the Persians and us for the Persians it's a ethnic term to describe themselves which itself derived from Sanskrit if anything they copied from us not the other way around and you wanna know how we know ? any writing we do get of their texts is way later.
You see the earliest avestian manuscripts it's dated to 1200 CE The rig Veda is at-least 3000 years old sanskrit is dated to 5000 BCE so if anything they copied from us not the other way around.
The other argument which i keep hearing over and over again is the similarities in phonetics my response would simple be use logic here bramha and abraham sound similar but do they mean similar things well lets see.
Bramha translates to Para Brahman', the Supreme Consciousness, Absolute Reality, Supreme Godhead.
And Abraham translates to father of many.
Do you see the inconsistencies of this.
Lets compare deva with deava.
Deva Translates to ‘shining one’, later ‘god’.
Daeva roots translate it to daeva (plural daevas)(Zoroastrianism) A supernatural entity of disagreeable nature.
Words sound similar but they mean very different things. I have seen the argument even being made Zoroastrianism is an inversion of the Rig Vedas. However as we know the latest writing of the Zoroastrian faith is only recent to 1100 ce before that it's all oral tradition which we know is very likely to be corruptible.
So even even if it were a inversion the possibility still arises that they copied from us not the other way around. Their texts came about way later so their is no way they brought the religion over here it seemed to be indigenous to our area.If their is a connection it's them stealing from us and that connection came about way later not earlier their is also evidence of them stealing from the Christians.
Another thing to be called out here which destroys any claim to Aryan being a genetic thing is that in the Rig Vedas whilst it's true they distinguish between dasas and Aryans. The distinguishing line is over Ideology and not physical appearances.That blows out the water any genetic claim to the Aryan name. also the Rig Veda they had the varnum system not the Caste system we think off as today. The varnum system was to preserve blood line not race since we already know Indians are already closer to each other anyways.
And even the preserving blood concept wasn't intended by Krishna it was supposed to be based on merit the British made this way worse but mughals started the flames the Brits fuled the fire fuck em honestly.
Aryans in the Rigveda
books.google.co.uk
The last argument I wanted to destroy specifically is the idea the language of Sanskrit and Vedas being foreign to India and brought to us by invaders. I want people to actually think about this argument for a sec.Your telling me sub 80 IQ archaic nord niggers the proto yamayna came and conquered a technologically advanced civilization which had had advanced metallurgy then then went onto introduce the religion of the vedics and then to create Sanskrit ?.
Remember in the Greek times nord niggers were called out for what they rightly were snow niggers they were thought to be incapable of building civilizations they were very much so barbarians and these niggers are gonna be creating sanskrit they can't even fix their own civilizations around this time let alone conquer others.
Added to this lets apply simply occams razor.
Scenario 1 The IVC starts to go down around 1500 or 3000 bce they won't let you have 3000 thousand though and say your peddling psedo science so okay well go with 1500 BCE do you know what was happening during that 1500 bce ? the river sarawati started to dry coincidentally near the time that civilization.
Scenario 2 their was some invasion from these niggers do you see how barren their land is ?
And they took down this I swear the AIT advocates are delusional.
Proto nord cucks (either siniastha androvodo or yamayna) took down intellectually superior peoples ? and then set up the vedic religions ? and the languages are they delusional morons.Another thing is aryan means 1 who does noble deeds so lets say their was an invasion how would it be noble to take down an intellectually superior peoples and peoples who were very peaceful.
The perpetrators of this bullshit theory was no other than miss Helena Blavatsky these bastards wanted to steal our history they were colonists
Something unrelated that i have to bite the bullet on unfortunately the early rig Vedas is quite Manichean and Gnostic you have a clear conception of a good god vs evil later on as the Vedas developed you started to get more monotheistic and skeptical traditions.
The Upanishads is the central doctrine a Hindu should follow in my opinion as it is way more intellectual and philosophical it's not Manichean either.
@Transcended Trucel I think our history is greater than we thought not only are we not mutts our history goes back way way way further our language is unique to us and no 1 else. Any time similar words were used in the Avesta texts it is so long after that we can claim they stole from us or at the very least the 2 are used in different contexts and don't mean the same thing.
I still can't accept pakis hate curries and try to be sand nigger when our history is morally and intellectually superior for the most part morally i would say for sure ancient india had way less slavery the Arabs and the Arabs were the ones denoting Africans as less than apes. If we practiced slavery it was mainly a soft form of it that's not to excuse it but the levels we done is way less and it is shown in our DNA the average curry scores less than 1 percent African average Arab is like 10 to 5 percent makes you think.
It wasn't us calling Negros inferior hell we had a negro king we didn't even leave the subcontinent that much hell when we did colonize other nations the religions we brought were really kind and their still with us to this day. Most of our colonialism brought Buddhism to the land.No sane man can argue Buddhism is objectively a bad faith or that it destroys the culture of the land.
I've noticed a theme with south east Asians and curries in General our religions bring peace near eastern ones bring war blood and destruction.
