(Book): The Richest Man in Babylon

[Freixel]

Basic wisdom contained in the book:

>Saving
>Investment
>Reducing expenses
>Searching for knowledge, studying.
>Overcoming fear, taking risks.

Very similar to Rich Dad Poor Dad (the latter was inspired by this book)

What the book doesn't say is that to win in investments and for risk to be worth it and not ruin you, you have to have DATA (information), the same data that the great billionaires of the earth have: Knowing when the value of a stock will go up or down, when to buy and when to sell, etc.

The average worker doesn't have this data, so the world of investments ends up being a Russian roulette for him and many times he ends up losing (You just have to take risks, overcome fear bro, winners take risks bro).

Furthermore

The book is an apology for Usury and tries to portray the figure of the desert merchant as an "honest job."

Basically a cult of Mammon, the god of Money, and an apology for a psychopathic Jewish vision of the world.
There is no doubt why it is so famous in the USA.

>Also, the fantastic-literary aspect of the book is bad and boring.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Basic wisdom contained in the book:

>Saving
>Investment
>Reducing expenses
>Searching for knowledge, studying.
>Overcoming fear, taking risks.

Very similar to Rich Dad Poor Dad (the latter was inspired by this book)

What the book doesn't say is that to win in investments and for risk to be worth it and not ruin you, you have to have DATA (information), the same data that the great billionaires of the earth have: Knowing when the value of a stock will go up or down, when to buy and when to sell, etc.

The average worker doesn't have this data, so the world of investments ends up being a Russian roulette for him and many times he ends up losing (You just have to take risks, overcome fear bro, winners take risks bro).

Furthermore

The book is an apology for Usury and tries to portray the figure of the desert merchant as an "honest job."

Basically a cult of Mammon, the god of Money, and an apology for a psychopathic Jewish vision of the world.
There is no doubt why it is so famous in the USA.

>Also, the fantastic-literary aspect of the book is bad and boring.

To become rich, you need luck and be born into a rich family, everything else is nonsense: getting out of your comfort zone, motivation, knowledge, and more.

 

[Freixel]

To become rich, you need luck and be born into a rich family, everything else is nonsense: getting out of your comfort zone, motivation, knowledge, and more.

Of course

Big multimillionaires like Bill Gates were born into powerful and wealthy families. But this basic wisdom needs to be repeated ad nauseam in today's hyper-consumerist world.

I am reading these kinds of books to analyze my enemy: to know what kinds of stratagems and lines of thought are created from the circles of power for the consumption of the masses.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Of course

Big multimillionaires like Bill Gates were born into powerful and wealthy families. But this basic wisdom needs to be repeated ad nauseam in today's hyper-consumerist world.

I am reading these kinds of books to analyze my enemy: to know what kinds of stratagems and lines of thought are created from the circles of power for the consumption of the masses.

We are back in Victorian England and the days of social Darwinism, even the hatred of incels is social Darwinism at its worst. It's not enough that no one will help you with your problems, they won't even sympathize with you, but they will laugh at you and humiliate you.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Basic wisdom contained in the book:

>Saving
>Investment
>Reducing expenses
>Searching for knowledge, studying.
>Overcoming fear, taking risks.

Very similar to Rich Dad Poor Dad (the latter was inspired by this book)

What the book doesn't say is that to win in investments and for risk to be worth it and not ruin you, you have to have DATA (information), the same data that the great billionaires of the earth have: Knowing when the value of a stock will go up or down, when to buy and when to sell, etc.

The average worker doesn't have this data, so the world of investments ends up being a Russian roulette for him and many times he ends up losing (You just have to take risks, overcome fear bro, winners take risks bro).

Furthermore

The book is an apology for Usury and tries to portray the figure of the desert merchant as an "honest job."

Basically a cult of Mammon, the god of Money, and an apology for a psychopathic Jewish vision of the world.
There is no doubt why it is so famous in the USA.

>Also, the fantastic-literary aspect of the book is bad and boring.

Libertarianism and Neoliberalism are literally a way to justify endless greed.

 

[Freixel]

We are back in Victorian England and the days of social Darwinism, even the hatred of incels is social Darwinism at its worst. It's not enough that no one will help you with your problems, they won't even sympathize with you, but they will laugh at you and humiliate you.

Yes, but this Social Darwinism mixed with modern consumerist Capitalism is a totally toxic and destructive combination

Because not only do they tell you that you are "inferior" for not conforming to the imposed stereotypes (6'0 Chad), but on top of that it is your fault and you have to kill yourself working to continue feeding the wheel of the system.

Libertarianism and Neoliberalism are literally a way to justify endless greed.

Agree

It is a shame that a professional libertarian scammer has won the presidency in my country

That is what drives me to wanting to understand the psychology of this type of ideology.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Yes, but this Social Darwinism mixed with modern consumerist Capitalism is a totally toxic and destructive combination

Because not only do they tell you that you are "inferior" for not conforming to the imposed stereotypes (6'0 Chad), but on top of that it is your fault and you have to kill yourself working to continue feeding the wheel of the system.



Agree

It is a shame that a professional libertarian scammer has won the presidency in my country

That is what drives me to wanting to understand the psychology of this type of ideology.

Read Ayn Rand and her hit Atlas Shrugged like it's the Bible of all neoliberals and libertarians. Are You Argentinian?

 

[Freixel]

Read Ayn Rand and her hit Atlas Shrugged like it's the Bible of all neoliberals and libertarians. Are You Argentinian?

Yep, Milei (jew minion) it's the president now

He is destroying the working class more than it was

I have Ayn Rand on my to-read list.

I also read The Wealth of Nations, a book that is supposed to be the true bible of liberalism and which criticizes monopolies and establishes that value lies in work (energy) and not in money or subjetivity.

Milei talked a lot about saving in his political campaigns, but he never talked about Adam Smith.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Yep, Milei (jew minion) it's the president now

He is destroying the working class more than it was

I have Ayn Rand on my to-read list.

I also read The Wealth of Nations, a book that is supposed to be the true bible of liberalism and which criticizes monopolies and establishes that value lies in work (energy) and not in money.

Milei talked a lot about saving in his political campaigns, but he never talked about Adam Smith.

I read about Milei that he is an extremely hypocritical politician who advocates reducing the state in all possible ways - for the destruction of free healthcare and free education, but he continues to finance trans people.
Javier Milei Spends Nearly $1 Billion on Trans Hormones for Argentine Kids

Javier Milei Spends Nearly $1 Billion on Trans Hormones for Argentine Kids

The government of Argentine President Javier Milei will spend $827 million on hormones and puberty blockers to make children trans.

nationalfile.com

 

[Freixel]

I read about Milei that he is an extremely hypocritical politician who advocates reducing the state in all possible ways - for the destruction of free healthcare and free education, but he continues to finance trans people.
Javier Milei Spends Nearly $1 Billion on Trans Hormones for Argentine Kids

Javier Milei Spends Nearly $1 Billion on Trans Hormones for Argentine Kids

The government of Argentine President Javier Milei will spend $827 million on hormones and puberty blockers to make children trans.

nationalfile.com

He is also extremely deceitful, In his campaign he positioned himself against feminism, the 2030 agenda and in favor of Catholicism to attract the conservative right to his side.

Of course, he ended up deceiving them all.

He is destroying free education, one of the treasures of my country that makes us one of the countries with the highest intellectual level in Latin America (and which allows a slight possibility of socioeconomic advancement for the working class)

He's just a sionist puppet

 

[SmhChan]

'They' bank on average traders taking risks. 'They' don't care if one guy hits the jackpot as long as they can collect from hundreds of others' foolishness.

 

[bonedigger06]

To become rich, you need luck and be born into a rich family, everything else is nonsense: getting out of your comfort zone, motivation, knowledge, and more.

 

[Orzmund]

Don't forget that the richest man in Babylon received his fortune from wealthy merchant who taught him his secrets and manufactured lucrative trade deals when it benefited him most. The character is represented as a benign martyr who has sacrificed the keepsake of his fortune but is just a grifter promoting self-improvement. I could write an in-depth thread on the principles of the book and how they fail to appropriately extrapolate to the economic climate of modernity.

I wouldn't consider an apology for usury as much as it is an appraisal of its practice. "Let your coins give birth to more coins." or whatever the maxim was.

When did you read the book?

 

[Freixel]

Don't forget that the richest man in Babylon received his fortune from wealthy merchant who taught him his secrets and manufactured lucrative trade deals when it benefited him most. The character is represented as a benign martyr who has sacrificed the keepsake of his fortune but is just a grifter promoting self-improvement. I could write an in-depth thread on the principles of the book and how they fail to appropriately extrapolate to the economic climate of modernity.

I wouldn't consider an apology for usury as much as it is an appraisal of its practice. "Let your coins give birth to more coins." or whatever the maxim was.

When did you read the book?

Yesterday, there were parts where I read without concentrating or paying attention because the story is pretty bad.

In one part of the book it literally talks about lending money with interest, basic usury.

Of course the author wants to ennoble the figure of the merchant by showing that he has moral values: That he is not going to extract the land from people who cannot pay him, or that he "feels bad" for people who can't pay him

But in real life this is bullshit, we all know the havoc that usury caused during the Middle Ages by the Jews and why they were persecuted everywhere and the Catholic Church ended up prohibiting usury.

He also wants to pretend that it is the merchant investors who help and multiply the wealth of the communities by making money flow.

But this is a philosophical question and as I said above: The value is in the work, not in the money.

 

[Emba]

You might want to also read

The 48 laws of power by Robert Green

It a bit like "the art of war" for western social conditions

 

[Freixel]

You might want to also read

The 48 laws of power by Robert Green

It a bit like "the art of war" for western social conditions

Yes, it's on my list, I'll read it soon.

 

[Emba]

Yes, it's on my list, I'll read it soon.

Good shit for young dudes to read...

Important to know that creepy AF shit.

 

[Orzmund]

But this is a philosophical question and as I said above: The value is in the work, not in the money.

Do you promote laissez-faire?

 

[Freixel]

Do you promote laissez-faire?

The state has to intervene in favor of the working class but without squeezing and destroying the private sector, a balance between both parties.

But that's an ideal world.

In the real world, political movements always go towards one extreme or another.

I also think that the State should provide basic services, such as education, water, gas, electricity

But I know that If the State becomes giant it becomes a Monster

If the private sector becomes giant and has no control, it also becomes a monster (tyranny of corporations and monopolies)

If I have to choose one of the naturally extreme movements that occur in the real world, I would choose Socialism rather than Liberalism.

In my country there is a political movement that is almost 100 years old and very powerful: Peronism, this movement, although it has leftist tendencies and positions itself in favor of the workers (on paper), tends towards that balance that I am talking about. This is what I identify with the most.

Also:

Spoiler

"laissez-faire" does not work the same way in a first world country as it does in a third world country.

My country is a thirld world raw resources exporter with a tiny industrial sector (it used to be larger but was destroyed several decades ago)

With the motto of "laissez-faire" what happens in countries like mine is that multinationals are attracted that extract raw resources, squeeze them, enslave the population and end up taking their investments abroad along with the resources.

If we had our own industry that works for the country itself, it would make more sense to "let it pass", because the money, infrastructure, resources and human capital would stay inside the country

 

[Freixel]

I think more people need to read what I wrote, especially people from my country:

"laissez-faire" does not work the same way in a first world country as it does in a third world country.

My country is a thirld world raw resources exporter with a tiny industrial sector (it used to be larger but was destroyed several decades ago)

With the motto of "laissez-faire" what happens in countries like mine is that multinationals are attracted that extract raw resources, squeeze them, enslave the population and end up taking their investments abroad along with the resources.

If we had our own industry, it would make more sense to "let it pass", because the money, infrastructure, resources and human capital would stay inside the country

"Opening the doors of the economy" in a third world country, the only thing that causes in the long term is the impoverishment and plundering of the population and natural resources.

If you have a small industry, it is also destroyed by competition against multinationals.

You need to have a strong and competitive industry as a requirement if you want economic liberalism to work.

 

[Orzmund]

The state has to intervene in favor of the working class but without squeezing and destroying the private sector, a balance between both parties.

But that's an ideal world.

A sovereign state would certainly bolster the masses, but a tyrannical one is far more likely to form in the event of its intervention with liberal commerce. The sweet spot you promote is purely hypothetical, and as we can see throughout history's endless cycle of regress and progress, it may well be fantasy too.

Society has always consisted of rulers and the ruled. Nothing will ever change that. It would engender greater prosperity were the masses granted freer propriety over their capital.

In the real world, political movements always go towards one extreme or another.

Europe. Democratic socialist countries like Denmark hit the political mark you're arguing in favor of, however it has only done so because of its flourishing economy and smaller domain. It could work in Latin America but all neighboring countries would also have to be economically prosperous.

I also think that the State should provide basic services, such as education, water, gas, electricity

As they usually do. There's no State if it offers nothing to its citizenry, only a constitution upheld by mercenaries and brigades.

But I know that If the State becomes giant it becomes a Monster

If the private sector becomes giant and has no control, it also becomes a monster (tyranny of corporations and monopolies)

The larger a designated population, the more difficult it is to regulate and nurture.

If I have to choose one of the naturally extreme movements that occur in the real world, I would choose Socialism rather than Liberalism.

The two compliment each other.

"Opening the doors of the economy" in a third world country, the only thing that causes in the long term is the impoverishment and plundering of the population and natural resources.

Domestic economy incentives are most profitable when enacted by smaller countries.

If you have a small industry, it is also destroyed by competition against multinationals.

You need to have a strong and competitive industry as a requirement if you want economic liberalism to work.

I guess.

 

[Fuck Jews]

A sovereign state would certainly bolster the masses, but a tyrannical one is far more likely to form in the event of its intervention with liberal commerce. The sweet spot you promote is purely hypothetical, and as we can see throughout history's endless cycle of regress and progress, it may well be fantasy too.

Society has always consisted of rulers and the ruled. Nothing will ever change that. It would engender greater prosperity were the masses granted freer propriety over their capital.

Europe. Democratic socialist countries like Denmark hit the political mark you're arguing in favor of, however it has only done so because of its flourishing economy and smaller domain. It could work in Latin America but all neighboring countries would also have to be economically prosperous.

As they usually do. There's no State if it offers nothing to its citizenry, only a constitution upheld by mercenaries and brigades.

The larger a designated population, the more difficult it is to regulate and nurture.

The two compliment each other.

Domestic economy incentives are most profitable when enacted by smaller countries.

I guess.

kcigam

 

[copemaxx9002]

Total neo liberal death

 

[Freixel]

A sovereign state would certainly bolster the masses, but a tyrannical one is far more likely to form in the event of its intervention with liberal commerce. The sweet spot you promote is purely hypothetical, and as we can see throughout history's endless cycle of regress and progress, it may well be fantasy too.

Society has always consisted of rulers and the ruled. Nothing will ever change that. It would engender greater prosperity were the masses granted freer propriety over their capital.

If I have to be totally idealistic, I would say that the best system for me is socialism + ethnonationalism, but that is because I have other values or priorities inside me than the private economy.

But I don't want everything to belong to the state either, private property is a must in my ideal system.

As they usually do. There's no State if it offers nothing to its citizenry, only a constitution upheld by mercenaries and brigades.

Yes, of course, but what is promoted from extreme libertarianism (ayn rand + minarchism) is to reduce the state to a minimum and only take charge of justice and defense.

I doubt that they will ever fully succeed, but we would have to see how a country with a state of those characteristics would develop, it would probably be an African style country.

I mean, there is an entire movement promoting reducing the state to its minimum expression or directly making it disappear and letting the private sector take care of everything (anarchocapitalism)

The latter is total madness and you could make an entire thread explaining why it wouldn't work.