The Scarlet Prince
The Devil's Advocate
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TL;DR for the video if anyone doesn't want to be bothered to watch it, even though I think you should—He basically says that it's obvious that men and women have began to rift apart recently, and that's it harder to get a relationship than ever. He then goes on to talk about why he thinks this is, and, in all fairness, he gets some of it right. He talks about how women are setting extremely high standards, and how men often feel like they're being settled for (which is true). He talks about how women often completely dismiss guys they don't like, and downplay their struggles.
That's about it for the good points he makes. He then tries to argue the following:
- Women also have their struggles downplayed (false).
- Men also don't treat women as human beings (extremely false).
- Guys are trying too hard to change themselves and women can detect that (I mean, I guess? I'll discuss it more in a second).
- & Men should be more understanding about the hardships women face (lol!).
Women Have Their Struggles "Downplayed."
He makes this point at roughly 1:30 - 1:39, 1:50 - 2:00, and 5:56 - 6:05.
1:30 - 1:39
"We have men who hate women, but want to date women—and we have women who hate men, but want to date men."
1:50 - 2:00
"Men often speak of a Male Loneliness Epidemic, but there are a lot of women who are lonely too, and often feel nervous, afraid, or awkward around men!"
SP: He then goes on right after this to talk about how the loneliness epidemic has begun to shift into a "male loser epidemic," although I'm not quite sure what that is supposed to be in reference to. Perhaps how foids perceive us, or perhaps how we perceive ourselves.
5:55 - 6:05
"Women are afraid of men for, honestly a lot of valid reasons. It's hard to tell what man will react to a rejection with violence or hostility.
In the first instance of him making this point, he has a little animation in the background to help visualize what he's talking about. "Men who hate women" is depicted as guys who are on or listen to red-pilled podcasts, and then go out to try and pick up girls. And "Women who hate men" is depicted as girls who react with hostility to men just regularly approaching them, but then going on to complain that no guys are approaching them.
I don't even have to try and explain why this is wrong. Red-pilled guys who listen to podcasts don't particularly 'hate women' at all in the same way that women hate men. There is a large difference in guys telling each other to be wary of wasting their time with foids, and being cautious; than there is to women outright telling men to kill themselves or die when a guy approaches them for literally any reason (even non-romantically). When women complain about not being approached by men, they mean who they actually consider 'men,' which are tall Chads.
This also applies to his second point, where 'lonely girls' aren't actually lonely because they have no choice, but just because they refuse to actually try the thousands of men who would happily put effort towards a relationship with them. Soys will say 'but they don't want to give men who could hurt them or be abusive a chance,' usually in reference to 'nice guys.' However, anytime you let someone into your lives, you are inherently taking a risk, they're just much more open to having that risk with someone attractive, even when the risk is far greater. This nonsensical stereotype that 'nice guys' are all somehow manipulative was started by foids so that they can have justification as to why they only go for Chads.
Men Don't Treat Women As Human Beings.
He makes this point at 12:35 - 13:35, 14:20 - 15:18, and 16:15 - 16:35.
12:35 - 13:35
"Men are going overseas to find women who don't challenge them on things, and that's what they ultimately are turned off from with western women."
14:20 - 15:18
"While a lot of what men face is unfair to them, there is a problem when men externalize their insecurity, and then take it out on women. Even in communities surrounded a female content creator, men are still the primary audience, which then leads to them creating echo chambers that reinforce a lot of the ideas that push women away in the first place."
16:15 - 16:35
"Men need to realize that women are people too. They aren't a different species, and often men think they have to trick a woman into liking them."
He critiques PassportBros in a minute long skit, in which he seems to suggest that PassportBros only go overseas to find SEA women simply because the men don't want to be intellectually challenged or face disobedience. This is extremely dismissive of the critiques that PassportBros have, and writes them off as being the ones who are in the wrong, when it's actually the other way around. While I can somewhat understand the point that he's making, since it is a fact that SEA women don't at all behave in the same way western girls do, it's still completely off the mark in the conclusion that it arrives at. Often, a lot of the PassportBros have the philosophy that they are spending far too much money and time on western girls, when they could instead travel overseas and have their wants met far easier.
I don't think that PassportBros are ever really looking for a committed relationship, whether it be from disillusionment with women as a whole, or them just genuinely not wanting to be comitted to one option. That is to say, regardless, it's not as if men yearn for a wife who is stupid and doesn't question them or their authority. I and many others have said before that we have no problem with our wives having opposing views—and in fact, prefer it so that we can have discussions about those things.
What ACTUALLY turns men off is when women feel the need to argue and complain about every single little thing. They will take tons of things they don't like about you as a person, then hold it against you. This leads to her losing feelings for you, and then ultimately having an affair. PassportBros recognize this, and they think that it's simply not worth spending all the money on a girl who will ultimately be disloyal to you since she has so many other options to flee to when she's dissatified with you, despite all you've given her.
Men yearn for their wife to be someone they can talk to and love despite all their differences, because contrary to the point he seems to be making—men want another human being to talk to. But women just aren't that way.
With regards to 14:20 - 15:18, all I have to say is that if men are randomly starting to feel insecure all of a sudden despite centuries of men never being this way, and then somehow find commonality with millions of other guys online who feel the exact same way, I think it says a lot more about women than it does men.
And to finish off this section, 16:15 - 16:35 is just more nonsense that implies that guys are somehow at fault for not being direct with foids. Maybe his point has a bit of validity, but only because foids have made it impossible to naturally talk to them. Try and come up to them and ask how they're doing, just as you would with anyone else, and they'll assume you're hitting on them or trying to get their number. Now the guy feels uncomfortable because that's not at all what he intended, so he doesn't even walk up to them and treat them as human, because he doesn't want to deal with the consequences—all for the crime of not being Chad. You can sure as hell believe that Chad can walk up and treat the foids as 'human' though, because even if they assume he's hitting on them, they'd like that and would listen keenly.
Guys Are Trying Too Hard to Change Themselves and Women Can Detect That.
He makes this point at 11:05 - 11:25, 17:05 - 17:30, and 17:40 - 18:03.
11:05 - 11:25
"You shouldn't just be nice to people because you like them, but just because you're a pleasant person. You don't have to be performative or a pick-me to get attention, you just need to be comfortable expressing yourself around others, and doing it in a way that doesn't offend others. Being nice isn't a personality."
17:05 - 17:30
"It may sound cliche, but you should just be yourself. You shouldn't need a 'meta-build' just to play the game."
17:40 - 18:03
"A lot of guys are afraid to open up emotionally because they believe that women will either use that against them to hurt them, or just outright mock them for it. However, I believe a lot of women actually are sympathetic to the male experience."
I don't have much to say on this for the most part. Most of this is just blue-pilled rhetoric that has no basis in reality. He's right that guys try really hard to change themselves for women—so much so that you have an entire simp epidemic full of white knights and other faggots who abandon people they're close to, or the things they like, all just for some girl. To be honest, the way that 'men change themselves' can manifest in a lot of ways—most of them negatively. It has become necessary for any Non-Chad to do this in order to try and secure a relationship, because women have now assigned such extremely high physical, unchangable expectations for men, that men have had to compensate in one way or another.
The best example of this I can think of is most of the guys on here who end up "ascending." Think of Left4Dead, for example. In order to actually mantain his new-found "relationship,' he practically spat in all of our faces and discredited everything we stood for, all to please some ITfag and Left4Dead's girlfriend. Of course, all things will come to an end eventually, and he'll realize his mistake when the relationship dies, or he is cheated on. But he had already severed the connection he had with us, the only people who took him in when society spurned him. He had to try really hard to change who he was, all for temporary validation.
And regarding the last point, lol! We all can personally attest that isn't true. Our entire community is subject to constant harassment and personal attacks, all just because we're incels who built up our own community for ourselves. There is no sympathy nor empathy from foids, the entirety of r/IncelTears should prove that. I have never once recieved sympathy from a foid, and I'm sure nobody else here has.
Hallucinated It Again Award!
Men Should Be More Understanding About the Hardships Women Face.
He makes this point at 2:05 - 2:15, 3:38 - 3:52. and 15:20 - 15:35.
2:05 - 2:15
"People are trying to make their exceptions to who deserves to feel lonely (???). And while we like to assume bad things (loneliness) happen only to people we don't like, the reality is that a lot of people are struggling."
3:38 - 3:52
"As guys, we should recognize that women are more vulnerable than we are. Even though we go through a lot of the same struggles that women do, we live in a world where women go through that more often."
15:20 - 15:35
"For both men and women, we search for support from our peers to help cope with the struggles that we have with interacting the other side. Yet, we lack the persepctive to fully understand what the other side faces. Women don't understand the depth of the challenges that men face, and men don't realize what women experience on a daily basis.
I'm not even going to write much for this. I've already written a lot, and this post will probably get like 7 replies maximum. It's all retarded, as usual. Foids don't struggle at all for the same reasons men do. They have options, they just choose not to take them because they don't fit their extremely high standards.
Women don't go through hardship.
Well that's about it for what I have to say. There were a lot of other points, but honestly, I haven't written this much in a long time. I'm certainly rusty. I should probably work on writing stuff like this again, so that I can organize my thoughts more efficiently and articulate what I want to say more effectively. I apologize for the length of this post...
That being said, I'm going to go workout now, which is another thing I have to make a post about later on. I also will be returning to this thread and start posting some of the highlights I saw in the comment section, along with some of my own replies to them.





