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If you still think there isn't much of a difference between the three, or naively treat the 'biological one' as the only relevant one, you're in for a surprise.
The drive differs from the instinct which is a ‘biological need’ in that the drive can never be fully satisfied, the drives do not aim at a object -- they circle around it, increasing our desire for something causing stress, but we often seek that build up because it enhances pleasure. The model for this is addiction with it’s endless cycle of withdrawal, craving and consumption. Patients with a feeding tube in their stomach still desire eating something 'real', even though their biological needs for nutrition are met through a tube, the pleasure they could derive from the process of eating is lost, their instinct for hunger is satisfied, their oral drives are not -- the fast food eater doesn’t get satisfaction when the cake hits and dissolves in his stomach, they get it in the process of looking, smelling and tasting it.
You don’t drink coke to quench your thirst, you drink it to postpone the dreadful moment of full satisfaction. Drinking soda actually makes you more thirsty, which makes you want to drink more. You're satisfying your drives before actual needs. Coca Cola has little immediate use value when it comes to quenching ones thirst, it's 'value' is in a supra-sensible aura of the ineffable spiritual surplus. Bulimic individuals don’t want to actually fully satisfy their appetite, they just want to binge eat endlessly -- eating without literally eating anything is the object cause of their desire.
Teen love might be a substantially or empirically unqantifiable, but this doesn’t mean that texting late at night to plan for a meetup at the beach isn't already producing a excess of enjoyment in the little thrills of a potential romantic meet up. Teen love, hot summer nights and coca cola are like an aphrodisiac, you don't want actually to fuck the aphrodisaic, the aphrodisiac is the object that causes you to desire (sex with a girl in this case) a distinct or specific way. For the coping cynic teen love is just something that delays the 'real thing', which is the moment of actual intercourse, what he forgets is the 'human nature' is not marked by satisfying 'immediate needs', but a constant search for excresses through repetition. Choosing to drink Coke before water when thirsty is about the overriding the drives with repetition, a desire to desire to drink even more, with teen love it is the process of seduction that produces a surplus enjoyment which wouldn’t be possible to extract if you quenched your thirst for sex with a hooker at hand.
The drive differs from the instinct which is a ‘biological need’ in that the drive can never be fully satisfied, the drives do not aim at a object -- they circle around it, increasing our desire for something causing stress, but we often seek that build up because it enhances pleasure. The model for this is addiction with it’s endless cycle of withdrawal, craving and consumption. Patients with a feeding tube in their stomach still desire eating something 'real', even though their biological needs for nutrition are met through a tube, the pleasure they could derive from the process of eating is lost, their instinct for hunger is satisfied, their oral drives are not -- the fast food eater doesn’t get satisfaction when the cake hits and dissolves in his stomach, they get it in the process of looking, smelling and tasting it.
You don’t drink coke to quench your thirst, you drink it to postpone the dreadful moment of full satisfaction. Drinking soda actually makes you more thirsty, which makes you want to drink more. You're satisfying your drives before actual needs. Coca Cola has little immediate use value when it comes to quenching ones thirst, it's 'value' is in a supra-sensible aura of the ineffable spiritual surplus. Bulimic individuals don’t want to actually fully satisfy their appetite, they just want to binge eat endlessly -- eating without literally eating anything is the object cause of their desire.
Teen love might be a substantially or empirically unqantifiable, but this doesn’t mean that texting late at night to plan for a meetup at the beach isn't already producing a excess of enjoyment in the little thrills of a potential romantic meet up. Teen love, hot summer nights and coca cola are like an aphrodisiac, you don't want actually to fuck the aphrodisaic, the aphrodisiac is the object that causes you to desire (sex with a girl in this case) a distinct or specific way. For the coping cynic teen love is just something that delays the 'real thing', which is the moment of actual intercourse, what he forgets is the 'human nature' is not marked by satisfying 'immediate needs', but a constant search for excresses through repetition. Choosing to drink Coke before water when thirsty is about the overriding the drives with repetition, a desire to desire to drink even more, with teen love it is the process of seduction that produces a surplus enjoyment which wouldn’t be possible to extract if you quenched your thirst for sex with a hooker at hand.
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