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I already wrote a good deal on this topic in another thread, so my main post here will just be editing together ones I've made previously. This is, to my mind, a very important feature of modern life and one that I've never really seen mentioned here, so I think a full thread is warranted. I'd like to open this up to wider discussion (@DeformAspergerCel, @ElliotRodgerHere are good candidates) if anyone wants to read all this text (ideally the links too lol). Of particular interest to me would be how this relates to incels broadly (how "genetically inferior" are you really? Given your treatment, probably not very if the bioleninist approach can be taken as a verity). Even if you're just a huffy ethnicoper, I suppose it's well within your rights to post a "didn't read" gif and make a contribution as useless as ever too.
The concept of "bioleninism", why the Left and the "Left" recruit political constituents from the resentful and defective, the White male as the measuring stick of status, and the gooba gabba racepill as an expression of divided interests:
A lot of "White" men are irredeemable and I have no intention of defending them, but to pretend they're any worse than the bioleninist coalition of ethnicopers, foids, and deviants strikes me as nauseating and foolishly contrarian. All of these people "just trying to get something for themselves" are unwaveringly loyal to the system because it is the guarantor of gibs and status.
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The link I posted outlining "bioleninism" is very relevant here. The author takes a very flexible approach to facts and seems rather like a reformed libertarian - his idea of "Leninism" is pretty convoluted, so bioleninism isn't exactly a good name - but the central thesis here is very incisive and ultimately true.
"White cucks" are absolutely part of the bioleninist coalition, they are just at the very foot of the hierarchy. What you are dealing with is in effect just a motley assortment of system loyalists who depend on the maintenance of the current one for the inordinately esteemed positions they enjoy. Foids, homos, trannies, ethnicopers. People whose loyalty is baked into their genetic constitution and who pledge fealty in exchange for status. Under any other conceivable regime of value, they could never hope to be the most prominent and overrepresented citizens in the public imagination or have at least been convinced of this.
Soft, screwy, or weak White men - cucks - represent a unique problem for the system in that their loyalty is the most precarious. They are near, but not at, the bottom of the status hierarchy under bioleninism because that of the other subjects is neurotically referenced against them and dependent upon their relatively lower position; similarly low under natural hierarchies for more obvious reasons. The mere material comforts afforded by the system and the false promise of vicarious ascendance through White guilt, colonial atonement, and finger wagging is offered by the system, contrasted with memories of being shoved into lockers, harassed, and humiliated by jocksuckers, as an improvement on a former or alternative condition. It is a mirage to keep them in line, but their motives for staying in line are the same as the rest. Ultimately, ethnicopers, foids, and cucks are the same types of people propping up the current state of things for the same reasons.
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A lot of men who aren't particularly disadvantaged by the current order (average-looking, mid-status men that can wrangle whores every once and a while) are politically inert and don't much care which way things turn (in America, imperialist multiculti clownworld under Democratic "control" or imperialist multiculti clownworld with lower corporate taxes under Republican "control" are your "options"). A good-looking and high-status man is even a beneficiary and has no reason to oppose a system that allows a procession of holes to ruin themselves on him, abort the consequences, then remove themselves from the picture to go chase the next Chad, leaving him with no further obligations. They have to pay symbolic tribute to the new heroes of diversity, but what does that matter ultimately?
High-T, uncucked, ugly and outcasted men - and the share of "ugly" grows by the day, along with social atomization - is the group that feels the effect most strongly and whose position has slipped the most. If you were a fighting type before, you could join the military and valorize yourself that way, now you can join the military and get PTSD fighting a useless war no one in your home country really cares about; you can work construction, throw out your back when you're 30 and get addicted to fentanyl. If you're a thinker, you used to be able to do meaningful theoretical, systemic, and empirical work; now you can work on a PhD in political science until you're 40 just to be trained as an apologist for the system that hates and robs you, or you can write code for actually important work so an idling foid on your 20+ member team can be acclaimed for it. For creative types, unless you're a nog or a pretty boy, there's no room for men in music anymore.
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Some more points regarding the instrumentalization of the constitutionally dependent by the modern Left:
The Frankfurt School intellectuals and "Cultural Marxism" is a frequent and often abused talking point that comes up among a lot of reactionary types. However, it's worth noting that there are definitely valid reasons for this. That whole milieu certainly did emphasize the monopolization and reorientation of culture under the guidance of new ideology, further attempting to inculcate "revolutionary consciousness" through institutional hegemony, anticipated by Antonio Gramsci's heterodox Marxism that identified culture as setting the mold of political values. Rudimentary outlines of "bioleninism" as a political strategy were even drafted in Herbert Marcuse's One-Dimensional Man all the way back in 1964:
This is an idea so important and foundational in understanding the course modern political systems are taking (and what really lies behind "identity politics" beyond its use as a buzzword) that it merits its own thread really.
I also posted a link to Kaczynski's The System's Neatest Trick above, another nice short read, which explains how the system recruits proselytes, janissaries, and enthusiasts as ostensible "rebels", by coopting their frustrations and directing them toward its own ends. In effect, "progress" congenial to the system's needs is pushed through using socially marginal "radical" elements who act to condition the public to social change, exaggerating demands and chimping out so that when the system is able to legislate the desired objective its seen as a compromise. Moreover, activist groups and "rebels" act to shift the perceived locus of change from its true source in the system to the demands of the "oppressed and their allies" (as though these people were actually important).
Examples of this are endless. This will explain the endlessly escalating controversies over "gay/trans/hole rights" even after their stated objectives are reached. I'm not old enough to remember the full development of the debate, but "gay rights" are particularly illustrative in that demands elevated from "tolerate our behavior in the privacy of our homes" to "let us be who we are as members of society" to "give us marriage rights" to "normalize our behavior, make it as visible as possible, schoolteachers will file lawsuits over being fired after using Grindr to meet teenage boys" to..? And still you have people demanding more - and they'll get it because sodomitical, loyal consumers with an added dose of feminine vanity and impulsiveness are better than "plain" consumers.
Ethnicopers are in on exactly the same grift. You'll often notice them complain here that "liberal SJWs are STILL RACIST. THEY STILL DON'T GIBS AND THEY DON"T MEAN IT!" Implication being it would be a good thing if they did mean everything they said and followed through with it (they do too, ethnicopers can't face the fact that shitlib foids want Chadpreet and not incels - and they are incels, not 9/10 oppressed ethneesells). Their priorities lie here; their primary identity is not "incel" but "ethnic" despite all their taqiyya or the equivalent about "it's over incel brothers" or whatever. They are a fifth column and entirely untrustworthy. Note that this is not just any non-White (I like plenty of them here), but rather one who calls themselves an "ethnicel" and is the sort of pouty fuck-up to blame White males for all of his problems, which all too many do.
The concept of "bioleninism", why the Left and the "Left" recruit political constituents from the resentful and defective, the White male as the measuring stick of status, and the gooba gabba racepill as an expression of divided interests:
A lot of "White" men are irredeemable and I have no intention of defending them, but to pretend they're any worse than the bioleninist coalition of ethnicopers, foids, and deviants strikes me as nauseating and foolishly contrarian. All of these people "just trying to get something for themselves" are unwaveringly loyal to the system because it is the guarantor of gibs and status.
...
The link I posted outlining "bioleninism" is very relevant here. The author takes a very flexible approach to facts and seems rather like a reformed libertarian - his idea of "Leninism" is pretty convoluted, so bioleninism isn't exactly a good name - but the central thesis here is very incisive and ultimately true.
"White cucks" are absolutely part of the bioleninist coalition, they are just at the very foot of the hierarchy. What you are dealing with is in effect just a motley assortment of system loyalists who depend on the maintenance of the current one for the inordinately esteemed positions they enjoy. Foids, homos, trannies, ethnicopers. People whose loyalty is baked into their genetic constitution and who pledge fealty in exchange for status. Under any other conceivable regime of value, they could never hope to be the most prominent and overrepresented citizens in the public imagination or have at least been convinced of this.
Soft, screwy, or weak White men - cucks - represent a unique problem for the system in that their loyalty is the most precarious. They are near, but not at, the bottom of the status hierarchy under bioleninism because that of the other subjects is neurotically referenced against them and dependent upon their relatively lower position; similarly low under natural hierarchies for more obvious reasons. The mere material comforts afforded by the system and the false promise of vicarious ascendance through White guilt, colonial atonement, and finger wagging is offered by the system, contrasted with memories of being shoved into lockers, harassed, and humiliated by jocksuckers, as an improvement on a former or alternative condition. It is a mirage to keep them in line, but their motives for staying in line are the same as the rest. Ultimately, ethnicopers, foids, and cucks are the same types of people propping up the current state of things for the same reasons.
...
A lot of men who aren't particularly disadvantaged by the current order (average-looking, mid-status men that can wrangle whores every once and a while) are politically inert and don't much care which way things turn (in America, imperialist multiculti clownworld under Democratic "control" or imperialist multiculti clownworld with lower corporate taxes under Republican "control" are your "options"). A good-looking and high-status man is even a beneficiary and has no reason to oppose a system that allows a procession of holes to ruin themselves on him, abort the consequences, then remove themselves from the picture to go chase the next Chad, leaving him with no further obligations. They have to pay symbolic tribute to the new heroes of diversity, but what does that matter ultimately?
High-T, uncucked, ugly and outcasted men - and the share of "ugly" grows by the day, along with social atomization - is the group that feels the effect most strongly and whose position has slipped the most. If you were a fighting type before, you could join the military and valorize yourself that way, now you can join the military and get PTSD fighting a useless war no one in your home country really cares about; you can work construction, throw out your back when you're 30 and get addicted to fentanyl. If you're a thinker, you used to be able to do meaningful theoretical, systemic, and empirical work; now you can work on a PhD in political science until you're 40 just to be trained as an apologist for the system that hates and robs you, or you can write code for actually important work so an idling foid on your 20+ member team can be acclaimed for it. For creative types, unless you're a nog or a pretty boy, there's no room for men in music anymore.
...
Some more points regarding the instrumentalization of the constitutionally dependent by the modern Left:
The Frankfurt School intellectuals and "Cultural Marxism" is a frequent and often abused talking point that comes up among a lot of reactionary types. However, it's worth noting that there are definitely valid reasons for this. That whole milieu certainly did emphasize the monopolization and reorientation of culture under the guidance of new ideology, further attempting to inculcate "revolutionary consciousness" through institutional hegemony, anticipated by Antonio Gramsci's heterodox Marxism that identified culture as setting the mold of political values. Rudimentary outlines of "bioleninism" as a political strategy were even drafted in Herbert Marcuse's One-Dimensional Man all the way back in 1964:
However, underneath the conservative popular base is the substratum of the outcasts and outsiders, the exploited and persecuted of other races and other colors, the unemployed and the unemployable. They exist outside the democratic process; their life is the most immediate and the most real need for ending intolerable conditions and institutions. Thus their opposition is revolutionary even if their consciousness is not. Their opposition hits the system from without and is therefore not deflected by the system; it is an elementary force which violates the rules of the game and, in doing so, reveals it as a rigged game. When they get together and go out into the streets, without arms, without protection, in order to ask for the most primitive civil rights, they know that they face dogs, stones, and bombs, jail, concentration camps, even death. Their force is behind every political demonstration for the victims of law and order. The fact that they start refusing to play the game may be the fact which marks the beginning of the end of a period.
This is an idea so important and foundational in understanding the course modern political systems are taking (and what really lies behind "identity politics" beyond its use as a buzzword) that it merits its own thread really.
I also posted a link to Kaczynski's The System's Neatest Trick above, another nice short read, which explains how the system recruits proselytes, janissaries, and enthusiasts as ostensible "rebels", by coopting their frustrations and directing them toward its own ends. In effect, "progress" congenial to the system's needs is pushed through using socially marginal "radical" elements who act to condition the public to social change, exaggerating demands and chimping out so that when the system is able to legislate the desired objective its seen as a compromise. Moreover, activist groups and "rebels" act to shift the perceived locus of change from its true source in the system to the demands of the "oppressed and their allies" (as though these people were actually important).
Examples of this are endless. This will explain the endlessly escalating controversies over "gay/trans/hole rights" even after their stated objectives are reached. I'm not old enough to remember the full development of the debate, but "gay rights" are particularly illustrative in that demands elevated from "tolerate our behavior in the privacy of our homes" to "let us be who we are as members of society" to "give us marriage rights" to "normalize our behavior, make it as visible as possible, schoolteachers will file lawsuits over being fired after using Grindr to meet teenage boys" to..? And still you have people demanding more - and they'll get it because sodomitical, loyal consumers with an added dose of feminine vanity and impulsiveness are better than "plain" consumers.
Ethnicopers are in on exactly the same grift. You'll often notice them complain here that "liberal SJWs are STILL RACIST. THEY STILL DON'T GIBS AND THEY DON"T MEAN IT!" Implication being it would be a good thing if they did mean everything they said and followed through with it (they do too, ethnicopers can't face the fact that shitlib foids want Chadpreet and not incels - and they are incels, not 9/10 oppressed ethneesells). Their priorities lie here; their primary identity is not "incel" but "ethnic" despite all their taqiyya or the equivalent about "it's over incel brothers" or whatever. They are a fifth column and entirely untrustworthy. Note that this is not just any non-White (I like plenty of them here), but rather one who calls themselves an "ethnicel" and is the sort of pouty fuck-up to blame White males for all of his problems, which all too many do.
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