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It's ironic, one of the reasons I started gymmaxxing was to look more attractive to women, but once I started talking to women after being gymmaxxed, instead of them being attracted, I got the strong impression they were intimidated by me. There was this one time at a liquor store where a woman was obviously scared of me. I saw this short MTB, walked up and stood next to her, and asked her what she was going to buy. She looked up at me, and I could tell immediately she was afraid by her facial expressions. She said "I don't know" with fear in her voice. After seeing her face and hearing her voice I said "Oh okay" and I ended up walking out of the store without buying anything.

From my own experience, if you're tall and gymmaxxed but have a sub5 face, women aren't going to be attracted to you, they're going to be scared of you.
 
yeah bro being tall repels women, they want 5'4 turbomanlets and it turns them on they are definitely not filtering them!
 
It is better to be feared than loved if one cannot be both
 
Foids are unironically attracted to men who make them feel afraid. They like ogres, and freaks of nature, as long as they are tall and dominant, just look at what foids are reading.
 
Humblest mogger around here.
 
Yeah you're right for the most part
 
No, if you’re tall and aesthetic they like that.
 
It's ironic, one of the reasons I started gymmaxxing was to look more attractive to women, but once I started talking to women after being gymmaxxed, instead of them being attracted, I got the strong impression they were intimidated by me. There was this one time at a liquor store where a woman was obviously scared of me. I saw this short MTB, walked up and stood next to her, and asked her what she was going to buy. She looked up at me, and I could tell immediately she was afraid by her facial expressions. She said "I don't know" with fear in her voice. After seeing her face and hearing her voice I said "Oh okay" and I ended up walking out of the store without buying anything.

From my own experience, if you're tall and gymmaxxed but have a sub5 face, women aren't going to be attracted to you, they're going to be scared of you.
Weight height?
 
@Truecel Prophet is NOT gonna like this.
 
So f
It's ironic, one of the reasons I started gymmaxxing was to look more attractive to women, but once I started talking to women after being gymmaxxed, instead of them being attracted, I got the strong impression they were intimidated by me. There was this one time at a liquor store where a woman was obviously scared of me. I saw this short MTB, walked up and stood next to her, and asked her what she was going to buy. She looked up at me, and I could tell immediately she was afraid by her facial expressions. She said "I don't know" with fear in her voice. After seeing her face and hearing her voice I said "Oh okay" and I ended up walking out of the store without buying anything.

From my own experience, if you're tall and gymmaxxed but have a sub5 face, women aren't going to be attracted to you, they're going to be scared of you.
So fucking true. Ugly face is an ugly face. All these retards saying that only one thing matters is retarded. If you fall well below average on something like face, height, neurotypicality etc then you are a truecels.

It doesn’t matter that I’ve seen 10 blokes taller than me in the last 3 hours(o-week at uni) and ive walked past like 5000 people at least. I’ve seen dozens of short normal looking/attractive faced men walking with girls obviously their gf.
 
It's ironic, one of the reasons I started gymmaxxing was to look more attractive to women, but once I started talking to women after being gymmaxxed, instead of them being attracted, I got the strong impression they were intimidated by me. There was this one time at a liquor store where a woman was obviously scared of me. I saw this short MTB, walked up and stood next to her, and asked her what she was going to buy. She looked up at me, and I could tell immediately she was afraid by her facial expressions. She said "I don't know" with fear in her voice. After seeing her face and hearing her voice I said "Oh okay" and I ended up walking out of the store without buying anything.

From my own experience, if you're tall and gymmaxxed but have a sub5 face, women aren't going to be attracted to you, they're going to be scared of you.
So true, I have a friend who's 6'5" and gymmaxed, but facially he's in the bottom .5% and autistic. He started gymmaxing because he got bullied by foids and he doesn't get bullied anymore but now foids are scared of him and treat him like he's some serial killer/rapist.
 
So true, I have a friend who's 6'5" and gymmaxed, but facially he's in the bottom .5% and autistic. He started gymmaxing because he got bullied by foids and he doesn't get bullied anymore but now foids are scared of him and treat him like he's some serial killer/rapist.
I'd rather be feared and treated like a rapist than be laughed at and mocked for being shorter than 99% of women in my area.

Fuck tallfags. They have no problems
 
I'd rather be feared and treated like a rapist than be laughed at and mocked for being shorter than 99% of women in my area.

Fuck tallfags. They have no problems
Me too, it's better to be feared than mocked. But neither are ideal.
 
I'd rather be feared and treated like a rapist than be laughed at and mocked for being shorter than 99% of women in my area.

Fuck tallfags. They have no problems
Yes, women fearing you is slightly better than being mocked for being short, but it still feels horrible that women view you this way, like what happened to me with that bitch at the liquor store. I felt like shit when I left the store. Judging by her facial expressions, you would think that I said, "I'm going to fucking rape you"
 
Ehh sure but better than being seen as weak or bullied.
 
Yes, women fearing you is slightly better than being mocked for being short, but it still feels horrible that women view you this way, like what happened to me with that bitch at the liquor store. I felt like shit when I left the store. Judging by her facial expressions, you would think that I said, "I'm going to fucking rape you"
thats based tho
 
no on being tall, but yes on being gymmaxxed. i have become significantly more hench since the last year cause boxing; i've noticed foids being more mean to me on dating apps and irl now while they mostly just ignored / pretended i didnt exist when i used to be lanky and skinny fat
 
Ogremaxxing is still a maxxing. Bettern than nothing. If you're a giant powerhouse with 2/10 face you can still Kanemaxx on WWE and atleast empty your balls into a foid attracted to freaks and why not then became the multimillionaire Georgia governor. Just saying lol
 

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If I was tall it doesn't matter how ugly I was I would just go to the gym learn mma then beat up normies and statusmaxx.
 
What a bitch! We all know she wouldn't have minded being beaten up by chad
 
Compared to how i see how soyciety treats short man, you being tall and muscular is like an easier difficulty, even if your'e still an incel- because no one will try to bully you.

Women love muscular, and lean dudes. Roidmaxxing is more than a negative than a positive.
 
I've seen this with my own two eyes (and to an extent experienced it as I used to be a lean gymcel when I was young and I'm 6'1).

But one of my old truecel friends was 6'5 and not only gymmaxxed but roidmaxxed. I saw him cold approach on numerous occasions and I saw the visceral fear in the eyes of the women he approached. You could see in their body language their fight or flight instincts getting provoked. Some of the women even flinched when they turned around and saw him, like it was a jumpscare. I've experienced all these things before but seeing it with him it was even more extreme. I remember one woman legit RAN when he tried to talk to her.

This guy was like a 2/10 facially if not worse. Ugliest guy I have ever personally known, and the only guy I've personally known that was worse looking than I was BEFORE I got surgery. KHHV. He never even had a female friend. He also looked WAY older than his age. When I met him I thought he was like 30...he was 19.

I tried to blackpill him, but he just wasn't having it. He had a million copes as to why every woman rejected him. One time after we were leaving the club after getting rejected by like every woman there, he was like "BRO THOSE CHICKS WERE ALL LESBIANS BRO THAT'S WHY THEY REJECTED US BRO".

He also said "bro I see ugly guys with hot girls all the time bro" and there was this one couple he said he saw at the gym where the guy was "an ugly short dork" and his girlfriend was "smoking hot". Finally I happened to be there when this couple was and he pointed them out.....it was a 5'10 pretty boy with a fat girl. Like he couldn't have been more wrong if he tried. But he was male-gazemaxxed. I tried explaining it to him but he got all mad. He said something like "look at how big her tits are and look at how small his arms are!". Also from what I could tell he preferred fat women.

I remember asking him who he thought was a good looking male celebrity, his example of vin diesel. I said women thought he was ugly and said women would strongly prefer Zac Efron he was like "WHAT?! HE LOOKS LIKE A GAY DORK NO WOMEN WOULD WANT HIM BRO". He was almost cartoonishly male-gaze-brained.
 
loling at the image of ogreism's profile pic locking eyes with a random foid stranger at the convenience store, slowly but deliberately walking towards her, manually swinging his arms as he walks to draw attention to his biceps, whispering close to her ear "so what are you buying?", her shaking with fear, the jeet clerk pooping himself in awe of his physique.
 
I've seen this with my own two eyes (and to an extent experienced it as I used to be a lean gymcel when I was young and I'm 6'1).

But one of my old truecel friends was 6'5 and not only gymmaxxed but roidmaxxed. I saw him cold approach on numerous occasions and I saw the visceral fear in the eyes of the women he approached. You could see in their body language their fight or flight instincts getting provoked. Some of the women even flinched when they turned around and saw him, like it was a jumpscare. I've experienced all these things before but seeing it with him it was even more extreme. I remember one woman legit RAN when he tried to talk to her.

This guy was like a 2/10 facially if not worse. Ugliest guy I have ever personally known, and the only guy I've personally known that was worse looking than I was BEFORE I got surgery. KHHV. He never even had a female friend. He also looked WAY older than his age. When I met him I thought he was like 30...he was 19.

I tried to blackpill him, but he just wasn't having it. He had a million copes as to why every woman rejected him. One time after we were leaving the club after getting rejected by like every woman there, he was like "BRO THOSE CHICKS WERE ALL LESBIANS BRO THAT'S WHY THEY REJECTED US BRO".

He also said "bro I see ugly guys with hot girls all the time bro" and there was this one couple he said he saw at the gym where the guy was "an ugly short dork" and his girlfriend was "smoking hot". Finally I happened to be there when this couple was and he pointed them out.....it was a 5'10 pretty boy with a fat girl. Like he couldn't have been more wrong if he tried. But he was male-gazemaxxed. I tried explaining it to him but he got all mad. He said something like "look at how big her tits are and look at how small his arms are!". Also from what I could tell he preferred fat women.

I remember asking him who he thought was a good looking male celebrity, his example of vin diesel. I said women thought he was ugly and said women would strongly prefer Zac Efron he was like "WHAT?! HE LOOKS LIKE A GAY DORK NO WOMEN WOULD WANT HIM BRO". He was almost cartoonishly male-gaze-brained.
Interesting story. I didn't know you were tall. Have you ever had a woman show visceral fear in her eyes when you cold-approached her?
 
When i cold approach foid, they look disgusted
 
Interesting story. I didn't know you were tall. Have you ever had a woman show visceral fear in her eyes when you cold-approached her?
Oh I got that numerous times.

The only thing you can do at that point is just walk away immediately.

But my 6'5 truecel gymcel friend didn't understand that. I would see women show that visceral fear and he would continue trying to chat her up. I've actually known a few incels who'd approach women, get very clear rejection signals, and keep trying. It's actually frustrating to witness.
 
Oh I got that numerous times.

The only thing you can do at that point is just walk away immediately.

But my 6'5 truecel gymcel friend didn't understand that. I would see women show that visceral fear and he would continue trying to chat her up. I've actually known a few incels who'd approach women, get very clear rejection signals, and keep trying. It's actually frustrating to witness.
He probabely has a severe case of autism. He thinks that woman likes huge muscles when in reality its lean with good face.

6'5 incel was not on my 2026 bucket list.
 
He probabely has a severe case of autism. He thinks that woman likes huge muscles when in reality its lean with good face.
I don't know if he was outright autistic. I know failing to pick up on social cues is a symptom of autism, but this only seemed to be a problem when he was cold approaching and getting rejected. A lot of guys seem to have this problem.

His biggest problems (aside from being extremely ugly) were being low IQ, male-gaze-brained, and overdosing on copium. He had a lot of unwarranted confidence. He actually thought he was above average looking despite being legit the ugliest guy I have ever personally known.

Also keep in mind this was the mid 2000s. Very few guys had blackpill levels of self-awareness and knowledge of dating dynamics, dating preferences, and aesthetics.
 
I don't know if he was outright autistic. I know failing to pick up on social cues is a symptom of autism, but this only seemed to be a problem when he was cold approaching and getting rejected. A lot of guys seem to have this problem.

His biggest problems (aside from being extremely ugly) were being low IQ, male-gaze-brained, and overdosing on copium. He had a lot of unwarranted confidence. He actually thought he was above average looking despite being legit the ugliest guy I have ever personally known.

Also keep in mind this was the mid 2000s. Very few guys had blackpill levels of self-awareness and knowledge of dating dynamics, dating preferences, and aesthetics.
Ok that makes more sense.
And in the mid 2000's dating was much easier, so him getting rejected was telling.

This is proof ogremaxxing doesn't work.
 
Not like I'ma ever ascend anyway so who gives a fuck
 
You are so humble
 
It's ironic, one of the reasons I started gymmaxxing was to look more attractive to women, but once I started talking to women after being gymmaxxed, instead of them being attracted, I got the strong impression they were intimidated by me. There was this one time at a liquor store where a woman was obviously scared of me. I saw this short MTB, walked up and stood next to her, and asked her what she was going to buy. She looked up at me, and I could tell immediately she was afraid by her facial expressions. She said "I don't know" with fear in her voice. After seeing her face and hearing her voice I said "Oh okay" and I ended up walking out of the store without buying anything.

From my own experience, if you're tall and gymmaxxed but have a sub5 face, women aren't going to be attracted to you, they're going to be scared of you.
water face is law
 
It's ironic, one of the reasons I started gymmaxxing was to look more attractive to women, but once I started talking to women after being gymmaxxed, instead of them being attracted, I got the strong impression they were intimidated by me. There was this one time at a liquor store where a woman was obviously scared of me. I saw this short MTB, walked up and stood next to her, and asked her what she was going to buy. She looked up at me, and I could tell immediately she was afraid by her facial expressions. She said "I don't know" with fear in her voice. After seeing her face and hearing her voice I said "Oh okay" and I ended up walking out of the store without buying anything.

From my own experience, if you're tall and gymmaxxed but have a sub5 face, women aren't going to be attracted to you, they're going to be scared of you.
Being feared is better than being loved. It deters foids and normie from making fun of you. Keeps them in their place. Good. I think one should do it if one can
 

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