Venting Being a submissive(beta) male is a curse

[Deleted member 8353]

JFL@ retards telling me to "be myself", that's legit the worst advice they could possibly give me, something which I've known better than to even try since I was 17. Of course the social problem with faking dominance is similar to what happens when you fake confidence, usually nobody actually buys it.

When I was a teenager my own father asked me dozens of times if I was gay, suggesting that he wouldn't care if I was. It took several years for him to finally believe me when I told him that I wasn't, or at least for him to stop asking, I can't read his mind after all. But the most hilarious part is that I honestly wish I were gay, I'd be so much better off if I were gay tbh. Women despise the thought of dating a submissive man, probably almost as much as they hate sub 5s in general. So not only am I an ugly social retard(thanks to years of isolation), but I essentially have to play a fake character whenever I'm in public just to even start playing the game, a game which I have no clue how to play thanks to missing developmental milestones.

Every interaction outside my house feels like I'm being attacked, thanks to crippling avpd/social anxiety, and I have to worry about putting on a fucking show on top of it. My brain is just fucked tbh, not only was I born wrong, I grew up wrong as well.

 

[Deleted member 18214]

Submissive = below 6"6 and 250 pounds

 

[desperatecel178]

Are you me?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Are you me?

Well at least someone gets it, JFL, beyond over tbh.

 

[Deleted member 8884]

Idk bro while I agree that avpd and social anxiety is a death sentence for most men, it's not like a female will pass up a GL guy who's shy for an alpha indian janitor.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Idk bro while I agree that avpd and social anxiety is a death sentence for most men, it's not like a female will pass up a GL guy who's shy for an alpha indian janitor.

Doesn't apply to Chad tbh, I agree with that. But like anything else you have to consider the current dating climate. I mean sure maybe 20 years ago it might've been different, but females have no need to settle for submissive but normal looking men, much less if they're ugly as well.

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

I act dominant, but it doesn't matter because the way normans see it is basically

Submissive = below 6"6 and 250 pounds

So they still harass me as they would any cuck, i have to be on guard every single goddamn day, still less common than before i gymmaxxed tho, it'll raise your T, trust me.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

100% right , You need to be stronger and not let people walk all over you if you want to gain some respect

 

[HappilySingle]

MMAcel bro. If you can fight at least you won't need to be afraid.

 

[trashcel420]

MMAcel bro. If you can fight at least you won't need to be afraid.

cope. 6ft 4 250lbs chad can beat any mmamaxxed 5ft 7 incel ass

 

[Deleted member 8353]

MMAcel bro. If you can fight at least you won't need to be afraid.

It's not my actual physical capability which is my real problem here, it's just my brain tbh. I've tried "manning up" yet I still don't change.

 

[HappilySingle]

cope. 6ft 4 250lbs chad can beat any mmamaxxed 5ft 7 incel ass

In a fight to the death maybe. If you can do some damage though they will still leave you alone. They don't want a serious fight even if it's one they can win.

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

It's not my actual physical capability which is my real problem here, it's just my brain tbh. I've tried "manning up" yet I still don't change.

Have you gymmaxxed and still have low T attitude? Probably just genetically conditioned to it, there's methods to buy testosterone to fix your hormonal deficiency, legally if you can convince the doctor (hard), unauthorized sources exist but you're very, very unlikely to get arrested just for buying it.

 

[FukFeminism]

Being me is a curse.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Have you gymmaxxed and still have low T attitude? Probably just genetically conditioned to it, there's methods to buy testosterone to fix your hormonal imbalance, legally if you can convince the doctor (hard), illegal ones but you're very, very unlikely to get arrested just for buying it.

I think I'd probably be this way no matter what I do tbh, although I did use to work out a lot a few years ago. Not anymore though, body is shit now.

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

I think I'd probably be this way no matter what I do tbh, although I did use to work out a lot a few years ago. Not anymore though, body is shit now.

Were you this way when you were working out alot too? If so i'd recommend getting your T checked ngl

 

[Deleted member 17719]

ER was beta too until one night

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Were you this way when you were working out alot too? If so i'd recommend getting your T checked ngl

Yeah, actually if anything I might've been even worse, as this was before I was any good at pretending not to be a soy tbh.

 

[78980n]

ER was beta too until one night

 

[Transcended Trucel]

JFL@ retards telling me to "be myself", that's legit the worst advice they could possibly give me, something which I've known better than to even try since I was 17. Of course the social problem with faking dominance is similar to what happens when you fake confidence, usually nobody actually buys it.

When I was a teenager my own father asked me dozens of times if I was gay, suggesting that he wouldn't care if I was. It took several years for him to finally believe me when I told him that I wasn't, or at least for him to stop asking, I can't read his mind after all. But the most hilarious part is that I honestly wish I were gay, I'd be so much better off if I were gay tbh. Women despise the thought of dating a submissive man, probably almost as much as they hate sub 5s in general. So not only am I an ugly social retard(thanks to years of isolation), but I essentially have to play a fake character whenever I'm in public just to even start playing the game, a game which I have no clue how to play thanks to missing developmental milestones.

Every interaction outside my house feels like I'm being attacked, thanks to crippling avpd/social anxiety, and I have to worry about putting on a fucking show on top of it. My brain is just fucked tbh, not only was I born wrong, I grew up wrong as well.

Inject tesosterone

 

[TheMinimalist]

I like to think of it as not giving a shit about trivial matters

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

This retarded OP acting as if behaviour matters, what a fucking cope, women would rather fuck shy 6'4 hunter eyed square jawed chad than an alpha manlet with recessed bones

 

[Deleted member 8353]

This retarded OP acting as if behaviour matters, what a fucking cope, women would rather fuck shy 6'4 hunter eyed square jawed chad than an alpha manlet with recessed bones

Behavior can't make you, but it absolutely can break you, delusional if you think otherwise. What some people here fail to realize is that just because behavior can't add to your SMV doesn't mean that it can't subtract.

However this of course doesn't apply to Chad.

 

[Deleted member 16624]

My grandma often asks if i like guys.
its pretty fcking weird ngl

 

[Haywire]

cope. 6ft 4 250lbs chad can beat any mmamaxxed 5ft 7 incel ass

you are dumb af

 

[Deleted member 17883]

it only works when you're a murdering psychopath. Just be yourself and wait for all those love letters

 

[Deleted member 14382]

One of the benefits of gymmaxxing is that it raises your testosterone and makes you more aggressive.

 

[trashcel420]

you are dumb af

its over for dumbcels

 

[Deleted member 21504]

you are dumb af

Manlets butthurt, as is the norm.

 

[kvn]

This retarded OP acting as if behaviour matters, what a fucking cope, women would rather fuck shy 6'4 hunter eyed square jawed chad than an alpha manlet with recessed bones

The only retard here is you

Vast vast majority of men are neither chad nor balding indian janitor and for this vast vast majority of guys behavior does matter. In fact if i had to bet my monthly salary on the most prevalent incelogetic trait id bet on mental issues.

All the incels i know in my social circle are regular looking guys, in fact the shortest one is married the longest. I know maybe one incel who is caused by looks and even then not completely

Just look at the fucking world around you for fucks sake. Yes females will fuck shy avpd 11/10 chad but they will also fuck a 5/10 normie who has normal social life and can connect with her and theres many many many more of these sex having normies that 11/10 avpd chads

 

[Monk of Failure]

OP you should have gone......

 

[Kiko12]

cope. 6ft 4 250lbs chad can beat any mmamaxxed 5ft 7 incel ass

Load of crap , mma is a very powerfull martial art ... i dont think the chad will have a easy time agianst mma fighter ..5'7 is within dangerous range to being able fight back..

Now if the chad is also an mma fighter ..that awhole diffrent story

 

[Vermilioncore]

Yes it is. Submissive beta males are the laughing stock of the entire female gender

 

[Deleted member 8884]

The only retard here is you

Vast vast majority of men are neither chad nor balding indian janitor and for this vast vast majority of guys behavior does matter. In fact if i had to bet my monthly salary on the most prevalent incelogetic trait id bet on mental issues.

All the incels i know in my social circle are regular looking guys, in fact the shortest one is married the longest. I know maybe one incel who is caused by looks and even then not completely

Just look at the fucking world around you for fucks sake. Yes females will fuck shy avpd 11/10 chad but they will also fuck a 5/10 normie who has normal social life and can connect with her and theres many many many more of these sex having normies that 11/10 avpd chads

The point is that behavior is cope beyond a certain point. You can be normie tier and act "alpha" all you want. What are you going to do when your girl is around a genetically superior male? He doesn't even have to be extroverted or "alpha" at all, she'll throw herself at him and forget about you in an instant.

I worked at a mall around a lot of college aged women, most with boyfriends, who would flirt with the GL customers or co-workers. I've seen it first hand.

And god forbid if the guy socially mogs you as well. Cuck or be cucked.

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

The only retard here is you

Vast vast majority of men are neither chad nor balding indian janitor and for this vast vast majority of guys behavior does matter. In fact if i had to bet my monthly salary on the most prevalent incelogetic trait id bet on mental issues.

All the incels i know in my social circle are regular looking guys, in fact the shortest one is married the longest. I know maybe one incel who is caused by looks and even then not completely

Just look at the fucking world around you for fucks sake. Yes females will fuck shy avpd 11/10 chad but they will also fuck a 5/10 normie who has normal social life and can connect with her and theres many many many more of these sex having normies that 11/10 avpd chads

But we arent even average or normie tier in looks. We are hideous, which means we either betabux some used up fat single mom or pay an escort for sex or fap or die alone as a lonely virgin. Its all about looks, if you are too unattractive everything is failo'd to the max.

 

[trashcel420]

One of the benefits of gymmaxxing is that it raises your testosterone and makes you more aggressive.

thats roidmaxxing

 

[Deleted member 14382]

thats roidmaxxing

No. You can raise your T even naturally.

 

[kvn]

But we arent even average or normie tier in looks. We are hideous, which means we either betabux some used up fat single mom or pay an escort for sex or fap or die alone as a lonely virgin. Its all about looks, if you are too unattractive everything is failo'd to the max.

yes i wrote that if you are "bald indian janitor" then ofc no behavior will help you. But at least where i live literally none of the incels i know are this case.

The point is that behavior is cope beyond a certain point. You can be normie tier and act "alpha" all you want. What are you going to do when your girl is around a genetically superior male? He doesn't even have to be extroverted or "alpha" at all, she'll throw herself at him and forget about you in an instant.

I worked at a mall around a lot of college aged women, most with boyfriends, who would flirt with the GL customers or co-workers. I've seen it first hand.

dump her.

And god forbid if the guy socially mogs you as well. Cuck or be cucked.

brutal but true

 

[Deleted member 5333]

when foid see face of chad she think she is in heaven. whatever he do is all just positive, nothing is negative

 

[Midwestcel]

Submissive = below 6"6 and 250 pounds

Lennox Lewis was 6'6 250 pounds

 

[Haywire]

nigga u think mmamaxed guy cant beat untrained chad in a fight?????

Manlets butthurt, as is the norm.
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[Deleted member 21504]

nigga u think mmamaxed guy cant beat untrained chad in a fight?????

Well, it really depends on what kind of fight it is. And how much training, what reach advantage, strenght advantage, psychology, etc