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Seeing that normies have lately been openly admitting to supporting bullying and bullies:feelsUgh::


View: https://x.com/SimpNeelix/status/1849539119216755094



With the implicit justification that the bullied children are the real monsters who need to be beaten up and kept under control because they might turn out to be le evil inkwells who will abuse women:feelsseriously:.


I've decided to see how true those beliefs are, especially when it comes to dating/domestic violence and abuse, which is one of the topics that really riles up normies. So, how do those claims of heroic bullies keeping society going and evil bullied kids wishing to destroy it and harm people hold up to reality? Not at all, it turns out.

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School Bullying Perpetration and Other Childhood Risk Factors as Predictors of Adult Intimate Partner Violence Perpetration

An older but golden study showing that frequently bullying your peers as a child is by far the greatest predictor of being a domestic abuser as an adult, completely shaming all the other usual explanations such as being physically or sexually abused as a child, or witnessing domestic abuse in your own household as a child. Sure, those "abused becomes abuser", "cycle of violence" factors do matter, but being a bully is several times more important in this.

Speaking of that, just why are normies so obsessed with the idea that all violence, abuse and so on can be explained as a cycle? That everyone who is aggressive or violent is that way because someone else had harmed them before? That the actual bad thing about abuse is not the immediate harm, but that the abused child will inevitably go on to abuse someone else?

Are they just so terrified by the thought of the world not being just? By the idea that some people are nasty for no reason and dish out much more abuse than they take their entire lives, while some people are just lifelong victims through no fault of their own:waitwhat:?

Anyway, let's look at something newer.

Participants (N = 5,279) reported past-year bullying when they were 14–20 years old and reported lifetime experiences of IPV when they were 20–27 years old. The results indicate that participants reporting being bullied more than twice were at elevated risk of IPV victimization compared to participants reporting no bullying victimization, adjusting for bullying perpetration and covariates. Participants reporting bullying others once or more were at elevated risk of IPV perpetration compared to participants reporting no bullying perpetration, adjusting for bullying victimization and covariates.
There was no evidence that the associations differed by gender. Results suggest that adolescents carry forward behaviors from their peer relationships to their dating relationships.

Longitudinal Associations Between Bullying and Intimate Partner Violence Among Adolescents and Young Adults

No fairy tale about bullying victims going on to become what they hated and becoming cruel abusers dealing with their mental trauma by traumatizing and hurting others. No bullshit about bullies just being kids who hated antisocial behaviour and worked to keep people normal. Just an admittance that people who were being were, surprise(!), not at risk of abusing someone, but of being abused, while bullies were at """risk""" of being abusers.

And of course, no gender differences were found. Whenever it comes to female violence or aggression, feminists, conservatives, red pillers and so on all agree that it is somehow completely different from male aggression, it is not the norm while the latter somehow is, it isn't as serious, it's not the same, it barely if at all happens, it's completely different and should be treated completely differently and blah blah blah. And then, the closer you look at it, objectively, the less actual differences you find:feelsUgh:.

Direct bullying, defined as hitting, slapping, or picking on another kid in the sixth grade, predicted the onset of physical dating violence perpetration by the eighth grade, controlling for indirect bullying and potential confounders.
Boys reported significantly more direct bullying than girls (r = .08, p < .001), and black adolescents reported significantly more direct bullying than white adolescents (r = .18, p < .001).

Bullying as a Longitudinal Predictor of Adolescent Dating Violence

Jfl, turns out you don't even need to wait for adulthood for bullies to be the ones who become abusers:feelshaha:. Also kek at race being over twice as big of a factor for direct bullying as gender:feelskek:. Holy fuck even I didn't expect that:lul:, let's see the leftists who on one hand take it for granted that race differences in crime and violence either don't exist, or when they do exist they are completely environmental and cultural, and then have no problem with double standards or misandry because "muh men are violent and a danger to helpless women:soy::soy::soy:" try to explain and deal with it:feelsEhh::feelshaha:.

They even tried selling an r of 0.08 as a significant correlation and predictor, even ChatGPT just dabbed on that when I asked it:feelskek:.

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Now, the fact is that there are two different types of bullies. Pure bullies, who only bully and are not victimized themselves, and bully-victims, who bully and are themselves victimized. So is it possible that the myth of the weird bullied loner who then goes on to be a misogynistic monster in adulthood can still be resuscitated?

Lol no:feelskek:.

Bullying perpetration in the fall semester predicted physical dating violence perpetration in the spring semester when there was no bullying victimization, but not when there was any bullying victimization.
Bullying perpetration predicted dating violence perpetration when there was no bullying victimization (b ¼ 0.0303; P ¼.0296) but the association was only marginal when bullying victimization was at the mean (b ¼ 0.0229; P ¼.0602), and there was no significant association when bullying victimization was high (b ¼ 0.0081; P ¼.4950) (see Fig. 2). The Johnson Neyman technique indicated that when the adolescent had been victimized by one or more peers, bullying perpetration did not predict physical dating violence.
Although prior research found that bullying was correlated with (Pepler et al., 2006) and predicted (Foshee et al., 2014) physical dating violence perpetration by both boys and girls, because Connolly et al. (2000) found that bullying perpetration was more strongly associated with dating violence perpetration for boys than girls, this model initially included interactions between bullying perpetration, bullying victimization and sex of the adolescent. None of the interactions with adolescent sex were significant and, therefore, they were dropped from the model and sex differences were not examined further

Examining explanations for the link between bullying perpetration and physical dating violence perpetration: Do they vary by bullying victimization?

It was only pure bullies whose bullying predicted later physical violence against dating/romantic partners. Not bully-victims. "Well, sure, the guy who made fun of you might have deserved being punched, but you've proven that you are just like him, a dangerous male who should stay away from pure, harmless women because you are an inherent danger to them and you will abuse them:soy::soy::foidSoy::foidSoy:!" bullshit has once again been proven to be bullshit.

And, of course, once again there were no significant gender differences, the pattern quite clearly held for both boys and girls. But, of course, wait for everyone to minimize bullying and abuse done by girls and fearmonger about the scary lone losers who will never find a dating partner anyway.

Bullying perpetration was positively associated with anger at all levels of bullying victimization and with social status when there was no or low amounts of victimization; it was negatively associated with social status at high levels of victimization.
Society when it does its best to demonize low-status bullied boys to protect people from them, only for it to do nothing because the high-status Chads and Stacies turn into abusers after growing up having bullied weaker people their entire lives:

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It's telling that people are more willing to give bullies sympathy than bully victims. What a joke of a society we live in.
 
Tradcucks want non-NT men to suffer and die.
 
pin this shit
just read the title but it's enough imo
not pinning this for us since it's water to any inkwel but rather pinning for lurkers
 
I hate bullies. Especially the ones that try to become friends with you after all the shit they pulled. Bullies should be crucified but this is nothing new.
 
Women date bullies and aggressive men then they experience domestic abuse.
It's also their fault for choosing those kind of partners.
 
Thanks for the potent ragefuel I've been needing some lately.
Also.
Women date bullies and aggressive men then they experience domestic abuse.
It's also their fault for choosing those kind of partners.
This + female victimhood is fake.
 
This is why normies deserve Columbines and Virginia Techs, only then do they weep for their actions.
It's only unfair when we fight on a level field. :feelsjuice:
 
That's why we shoot and stab them cause that's payback normie faggots. But when we do that we're the bad guys again, funny.
 
This is why normies deserve Columbines and Virginia Techs, only then do they weep for their actions.
It's only unfair when we fight on a level field. :feelsjuice:
Hear hear:feelsautistic::feelsautistic:.

That's why we shoot and stab them cause that's payback normie faggots. But when we do that we're the bad guys again, funny.
 
Its the redpill gen xers i tell you. They are the biggest muh bullying makes you stronger, muh natural selection. I was bullied and look how great i turned out jfl.
 
Bullies win in life prime example of this clown soyciety we live in :feelsclown:
 
Solid post.

Bullying as a Longitudinal Predictor of Adolescent Dating Violence

Jfl, turns out you don't even need to wait for adulthood for bullies to be the ones who become abusers:feelshaha:. Also kek at race being over twice as big of a factor for direct bullying as gender:feelskek:. Holy fuck even I didn't expect that:lul:, let's see the leftists who on one hand take it for granted that race differences in crime and violence either don't exist, or when they do exist they are completely environmental and cultural, and then have no problem with double standards or misandry because "muh men are violent and a danger to helpless women:soy::soy::soy:" try to explain and deal with it:feelsEhh::feelshaha:.
Suicide for for left-wing progressivecucks like @Logic55.

They even tried selling an r of 0.08 as a significant correlation and predictor, even ChatGPT just dabbed on that when I asked it:feelskek:.

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Society when it does its best to demonize low-status bullied boys to protect people from them, only for it to do nothing because the high-status Chads and Stacies turn into abusers after growing up having bullied weaker people their entire lives:
This reinforces the common experience that the good looking, strong and popular boys in school are the biggest bullies.
 
This is just ragebait
 
The one sliver of truth to that tradcuck’s twitter post is that society’s downward trajectory did indeed grow more intense after gay kids stopped being bullied. Now we have child trannies & shit.

Regarding the findings you highlighted about bullying others in childhood being the highest predictor of being a domestic abuser in adulthood, I’m honestly kinda surprised, but only ‘cause the experience of myself (and others on this forum) seems to check out with most bullies being MTN/LTN. The relationships had by men on these looks levels seem to involve constant low-key negotiations and mistress-slave dynamics; I really couldn’t imagine any being ballsy enough to slap a bitch. But then again, studies I’ve seen also suggest that bullying primarily happens against people of similar social status (i.e., bullies bully those they look to use as social “stepping stones”), so while the experience of incels may involve primarily low tier/average-looking bullies, moggers are probably bullying other moggers :feelskek:
Speaking of that, just why are normies so obsessed with the idea that all violence, abuse and so on can be explained as a cycle? That everyone who is aggressive or violent is that way because someone else had harmed them before? That the actual bad thing about abuse is not the immediate harm, but that the abused child will inevitably go on to abuse someone else?

Are they just so terrified by the thought of the world not being just? By the idea that some people are nasty for no reason and dish out much more abuse than they take their entire lives, while some people are just lifelong victims through no fault of their own:waitwhat:?
100%. It’s pure bluepilled worldview. I’ve seen so many soyfags fight so hard against the idea that anyone on Earth could be inherently violent.

The funny thing is, though, they only care about your “history of victimhood” when you have some redeeming quality, like being a woman (obv), or being a high SMV male (like Ted Bundy or some BBC thug). These people would quickly wish death upon us for being “bigoted inkwells” :foidSoy: simply because we’re too unattractive to elicit any sympathy from them.

Eye-opening post as usual, thank you for the tag :feelsokman:
 
Good stuff like always slavic.
 
The funny thing is, though, they only care about your “history of victimhood” when you have some redeeming quality, like being a woman (obv), or being a high SMV male (like Ted Bundy or some BBC thug). These people would quickly wish death upon us for being “bigoted inkwells” :foidSoy: simply because we’re too unattractive to elicit any sympathy from them.
Exactly:yes:.

Good stuff like always slavic.
Thanks boyo:feelsokman:.
 
it makes sense for people who are bullied to end up as abusers, you’re essentially being taught that any time someone disagrees with you or annoys you that it’s ok to beat them up or verbally abuse them.
Also i fucking hate how dumbass normies act like the bully is a saint for “enforcing social norms”. Bullies don’t give a fuck about social norms, they’re bullying people because they’re sadistic. If the guy they were bullying for being weird was bigger and stronger then they would had never messed with him. 99% of bullies are pussies that prey on weak people.
 
Bullies are evil scum. They are going to be far more evil than the ones getting bullied
 
yeah but domestic abuse is based
 
This is just socially acceptable eugenics advocation at this point, they are implying that bullying is rightful because it gets rid of inferior genetics, failing to realize that such level of violence that bullies often display is not good for civilization and is just mere savagery
 
This is just socially acceptable eugenics advocation at this point, they are implying that bullying is rightful because it gets rid of inferior genetics, failing to realize that such level of violence that bullies often display is not good for civilization and is just mere savagery
Yes but bullying doesn’t kill you.Normies just expect that if they bully you, you’ll know your place and shit but they’re actually very close to enforce death camps for sub5 men
 
The Jews have realized that wokeism is bad for them due to the backlash that Jews faced on woke campuses after October 7th. So they have allowed Trump to win the election and are now moving the media space to a more right-wing one, which means support for eugenics. Unfortunately, this is still bad for us incels (excluding the 6ft+ white fakecels). Having said that, I prefer the open right-wing lookism to the woke lookism we had before (which was veiled). At least right-wingers don't pretend that "it's all in your head". They just outright tell you that you have subhuman genes and that for this reason they despise you. I have respect for that.
 
The Jews have realized that wokeism is bad for them due to the backlash that Jews faced on woke campuses after October 7th. So they have allowed Trump to win the election and are now moving the media space to a more right-wing one, which means support for eugenics. Unfortunately, this is still bad for us incels (excluding the 6ft+ white fakecels). Having said that, I prefer the open right-wing lookism to the woke lookism we had before (which was veiled). At least right-wingers don't pretend that "it's all in your head". They just outright tell you that you have subhuman genes and that for this reason they despise you. I have respect for that.
There is no scenario in which incels will not be thrown under the bus other than a Taliban social order where every man, no matter how much of a truecel he is, is superior to every woman by default.
 
Yes but bullying doesn’t kill you.Normies just expect that if they bully you, you’ll know your place and shit but they’re actually very close to enforce death camps for sub5 men
Cuckservatives definitely want to put all incels on gas chambers while worshipping "based" women and jews. Cuckservatives must be destroyed as much as trannies and sjw faggots and women
 
yeah but domestic abuse is based
May be, but for those types of normies it isn't, which is the glaring hypocrisy I wanted to fully highlight:feelsthink:.

being bully is best predictor of living happy, sucessful life. I am 100% sure correlations can be made but cucked lying researchers will never show it
:yes::yes::yes:
 
being bully is best predictor of living happy, sucessful life. I am 100% sure correlations can be made but cucked lying researchers will never show it
 
The Jews have realized that wokeism is bad for them due to the backlash that Jews faced on woke campuses after October 7th. So they have allowed Trump to win the election and are now moving the media space to a more right-wing one, which means support for eugenics. Unfortunately, this is still bad for us incels (excluding the 6ft+ white fakecels). Having said that, I prefer the open right-wing lookism to the woke lookism we had before (which was veiled). At least right-wingers don't pretend that "it's all in your head". They just outright tell you that you have subhuman genes and that for this reason they despise you. I have respect for that.
High IQ
 
Normies are disgusting creatures man :feelsUgh:
 
Seeing that normies have lately been openly admitting to supporting bullying and bullies:feelsUgh::


View: https://x.com/SimpNeelix/status/1849539119216755094



With the implicit justification that the bullied children are the real monsters who need to be beaten up and kept under control because they might turn out to be le evil inkwells who will abuse women:feelsseriously:.


I've decided to see how true those beliefs are, especially when it comes to dating/domestic violence and abuse, which is one of the topics that really riles up normies. So, how do those claims of heroic bullies keeping society going and evil bullied kids wishing to destroy it and harm people hold up to reality? Not at all, it turns out.

poa15028t2.png


School Bullying Perpetration and Other Childhood Risk Factors as Predictors of Adult Intimate Partner Violence Perpetration

An older but golden study showing that frequently bullying your peers as a child is by far the greatest predictor of being a domestic abuser as an adult, completely shaming all the other usual explanations such as being physically or sexually abused as a child, or witnessing domestic abuse in your own household as a child. Sure, those "abused becomes abuser", "cycle of violence" factors do matter, but being a bully is several times more important in this.

Speaking of that, just why are normies so obsessed with the idea that all violence, abuse and so on can be explained as a cycle? That everyone who is aggressive or violent is that way because someone else had harmed them before? That the actual bad thing about abuse is not the immediate harm, but that the abused child will inevitably go on to abuse someone else?

Are they just so terrified by the thought of the world not being just? By the idea that some people are nasty for no reason and dish out much more abuse than they take their entire lives, while some people are just lifelong victims through no fault of their own:waitwhat:?

Anyway, let's look at something newer.




Longitudinal Associations Between Bullying and Intimate Partner Violence Among Adolescents and Young Adults

No fairy tale about bullying victims going on to become what they hated and becoming cruel abusers dealing with their mental trauma by traumatizing and hurting others. No bullshit about bullies just being kids who hated antisocial behaviour and worked to keep people normal. Just an admittance that people who were being were, surprise(!), not at risk of abusing someone, but of being abused, while bullies were at """risk""" of being abusers.

And of course, no gender differences were found. Whenever it comes to female violence or aggression, feminists, conservatives, red pillers and so on all agree that it is somehow completely different from male aggression, it is not the norm while the latter somehow is, it isn't as serious, it's not the same, it barely if at all happens, it's completely different and should be treated completely differently and blah blah blah. And then, the closer you look at it, objectively, the less actual differences you find:feelsUgh:.




Bullying as a Longitudinal Predictor of Adolescent Dating Violence

Jfl, turns out you don't even need to wait for adulthood for bullies to be the ones who become abusers:feelshaha:. Also kek at race being over twice as big of a factor for direct bullying as gender:feelskek:. Holy fuck even I didn't expect that:lul:, let's see the leftists who on one hand take it for granted that race differences in crime and violence either don't exist, or when they do exist they are completely environmental and cultural, and then have no problem with double standards or misandry because "muh men are violent and a danger to helpless women:soy::soy::soy:" try to explain and deal with it:feelsEhh::feelshaha:.

They even tried selling an r of 0.08 as a significant correlation and predictor, even ChatGPT just dabbed on that when I asked it:feelskek:.

View attachment 1334971

Now, the fact is that there are two different types of bullies. Pure bullies, who only bully and are not victimized themselves, and bully-victims, who bully and are themselves victimized. So is it possible that the myth of the weird bullied loner who then goes on to be a misogynistic monster in adulthood can still be resuscitated?

Lol no:feelskek:.





Examining explanations for the link between bullying perpetration and physical dating violence perpetration: Do they vary by bullying victimization?

It was only pure bullies whose bullying predicted later physical violence against dating/romantic partners. Not bully-victims. "Well, sure, the guy who made fun of you might have deserved being punched, but you've proven that you are just like him, a dangerous male who should stay away from pure, harmless women because you are an inherent danger to them and you will abuse them:soy::soy::foidSoy::foidSoy:!" bullshit has once again been proven to be bullshit.

And, of course, once again there were no significant gender differences, the pattern quite clearly held for both boys and girls. But, of course, wait for everyone to minimize bullying and abuse done by girls and fearmonger about the scary lone losers who will never find a dating partner anyway.


Society when it does its best to demonize low-status bullied boys to protect people from them, only for it to do nothing because the high-status Chads and Stacies turn into abusers after growing up having bullied weaker people their entire lives:

Tv Land What GIF by YoungerTV
Pop Tv What GIF by Schitt's Creek's Creek


@anandkonda @Regenerator @Mortis @Gendocel @VintageCarCoper @ItsovERfucks @Kina Hikikomori @Mecoja @prajeet88 @GeckoBus @DarkStar @sultryloser @Stupid Clown @Sloth Vs Kanga @weaselbomber @reveries @Epedaphic @KING NOTHING @Incline @Anarcho Nihilist @Nordicel94 @fatass30000 @Chudpreet @Left4DeadKoala @based_meme @Subhuman Trucel @LeFrenchCel @Da_Yunez @Grodd @The Scarlet Prince

these same normies wonder why mass shootings happen
 
Good post as always, will read the rest later:feelsYall:
 
Thanks for the tag brocel.

Man I would love to see IT and other bluepillers try to debunk post like this instead of crying about some edgy post lol
 
Good read. Foids sure know how to pick them well :feelshaha:
 
moggers are probably bullying other moggers :feelskek:
this is 1000% true. one htn guy i knew none of the mtns or ltns could say shit to because he was a bit non nt but those niggas werent on his looks level so they had to stfu but he was bullied by other nt htns
 
In the same way you can't steal from a thief, it's never unjustified to harm a bully. If all the normalfags in charge of soyciety were held accountable for their abuses of power then they'd all be hanged.
 

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