Literally all of the replies are like this
Literally all of the replies are like this
Germany ? Heard they were feminist
Death by rat torture.
Kill every toilet you meet in minecraft
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What?
Germany ? Heard they were feminist
What do you mean? Smartass
Germany is one of the most libtarded countries in the Western world in nearly every aspect. To my knowledge, a lot of the current contentious shit in America like drag queen story hour, early sex ed, etc., has already been normalized in germany for decades
How is this relevant? Are you stupid?
Also this is untrue and only applicable to Berlin.
The algorithm-slop on whatever social media you use may paint an image like that for all of Germany. Your entire reality is based off of nitpick content on social media. You're pathetic.
I've lived in Germany several decades and always find it astonishing how naive people like you are.
Whatever you say against this is worthless. This is simply the truth. Cope or accept.
Take them to the pajeet pit
The misunderstanding seems to come from the language settings on your Instagram account. Because it's in German, they assumed that the original content being commented on was also German, and that by logical extension the commenters must also be German...despite their comments all being in English (Caichan clearly didn't think this one through).
Either way, due to the internet, globalization, and young people all being terminally online these days, this sentiment is extremely popular among young women everywhere on earth where the general public has internet access. So basically everywhere except for north sentinel island and North Korea. Tik tok is exporting this ideology from sea to shining sea and now even young women in third world countries far outside of "the western world" are parroting lines like "I choose the bear" "men are trash" "kill all men" etc. (Online friends from various parts of the world have reported such).
Women have always held views like this, they were just more limited in how much they could say them, as was the norm before the internet. The only thing that changed with the internet, social media, TikTok and so on, is simply that now for the first time in history, ordinary people can completely freely say what they think to millions of people and find like-minded individuals. For the first time in history we can actually see what other people are like and what they think, as social interactions finally aren't limited to heavily-censored interpersonal pleasantries where almost never does either party want to risk getting punched in the face, and speaking to an anonymous audience is for the first time not something limited to an upper-class privilege where those who have something to gain by swaying opinions of large crowds of people give pre-prepared speeches meant to appeal to a lot of different groups.
There's no brainwashing going on and nobody forcing them to be like this. This is simply what they are and what they've always been.
and yet they still wonder why someone goes postal on them
I'll acknowledge that man-haters/misandrists/feminists have existed long before the internet did (white feather campaign, SCUM manifesto etc.). There's also the fact that women have always had a very strong ingroup preference/bias whereas men do not and in many cases have an outgroup bias (biased in favor of women). This is well documented and downstream from evolutionary psychology.
With those concessions out of the way, I can tell you with certainty that gender relations were much better 20 years ago. As much as I hate it when people "pull rank" with age, I'm a lot older than you, so I'm speaking from personal experience. I grew up before "social media" was a thing.
20+ years ago there were a lot more mixed gender social circles, and most guys had female friends, even a lot of subhumans. Even my subhuman ass had a few female friends back in the day. Now the genders are much more segregated, and you have women parroting misandrist reddit/tiktok lines like "kill all men" "men are trash" "this is why we choose the bear" "men used to go to war" etc in real life. I hear it all the time. But 20 years ago you'd only occasionally hear something analogous to that in real life, but now all young women talk this way. Casual misandry wasn't uncommon, but it was vastly more mild compared to today.
The internet basically dumped a metric ton of gasoline onto a fire that always existed. Before the internet the fire was somewhat controlled. You could usually feel the heat from the fire, but you could mostly avoid it. Now we're all engulfed in the flames. The internet made extreme misandry go from fringe to ubiquitous. I'm also 100 percent sure this isn't me simply looking at the past through nostalgia goggles, gender relations were just better pre-social media.
I noticed gender relations starting to get worse as recently as the late 2000s. But I'd say around 2012 was when things started getting really bad because that's when Tumblr politics started really taking off.
If the post was "be rude to every female you meet" it would have been most likely taken down.
Bro on krautTok
Yup. Before everyone could just say whatever they wanted, the only way men would brush against serious misandry would be by reading books or quotes of radical feminists, or have to infer it from stuff like feminists strongly opposing not just the existence of shelters for male victims of domestic abuse, but also the acknowledgement that they exist in the first place, and how very few women seemed to have a problem with that, with even many men joining in due to their out-group gender bias.
Fair enough. Sorry if I seemed condescending there, I guess I'm just a bit primed to be sceptical of the "this social issue was better in the past" claims from how, I'm not sure if you've caught it, there were American 80s kid liberals swearing on Twitter that racism in the US was completely gone in the 90s, meanwhile, when you look at stuff like Pew surveys, by that time half of their country still disapproved of interracial marriages
.View: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1jwa66q/you_heard_it_folks_black_celebrities_ended_racism/
Though I guess this is a different issue altogether.
About how common would you guess it was? This is something I've been interested in recently, but it seems that nobody would know the answer and nobody's been keeping track of how common cross-sex friendships are over time. You mentioning all of this actually spurred me to finally try finding some actual numbers on this topic
.The study I made this thread about:
Percent of girls' male friends grows along with their developing breasts
"Silly inkwell, it just so happened that the number of my guy friends got bigger and bigger just as my tits were getting bigger and bigger, it doesn't mean anything, they are still great friends and just friends:foidSoy::foidSoy:." :feelskek::feelskek: Proportion of other-sex friends in...
incels.is
Is from 2007. I'll probably delve into the late-90s studies it cites, but from what they found here, adolescent girls have overall 30% or so general friends being male, almost entirely due to being friends with older boys out of school, and 15% male best friends, while about 10% of boys have female best friends and about 20% of them have girls in their wider friendship networks.
We know that friendship homophily (how many of people's friends are like them), increases with age, meaning fewer cross-sex friendships along with less of other types of friendships, but AFAIK, that should happen later than adolescence, so in 2007, those figures should be higher
After that, I found this Pew Research from 2023, which is much more adult focused.
What does friendship look like in America?
61% of U.S. adults say having close friends is extremely or very important for people to live a fulfilling life.
www.pewresearch.org
Women are more likely to have all-female close friend networks, especially women over 50, but both there and among the younger groups, the percentages are much smaller than I'd expect.
This graph is either from this same source or from a similar one also by Pew.
View: https://x.com/amersurveyctr/status/2028509589080060213
Those numbers are even wilder than I'd expect tbh. Just 28% of single men say that all of their close friends are of the same gender as them, 37-38% of both married men and single women claim so, and 46% of married women claim that all of their close friends are women. These numbers are even bigger than from the schoolkids in the 2007 study, which I guess just proves that, as I've mentioned, people do tend to gain more opposite gender friends even after adolescence, and it also shows that, in addition to simple age, such friendships atrophy also when people get married, so as not to make their spouses jealous (note that while married women are the most likely to have all same-sex close friend groups, it's actually married men, not married women, who report having no people who have all other-sex friend groups).
That's it for the US sources I found. I also found a British study from 2024 of 757 people, average age around 40, which had 80% of women with female best friends and 72% of men with male best friends. A rather small 2014 Italian study with 9% of heterosexual men and 15% of hetero women claiming to have an opposite-sex friend (the numbers were larger for homosexuals), and a 2020 German study which, if I'm reading it right, had men and women both have about 35-40% of close friends be opposite sex, though the raw data isn't available anywhere I can access.
That's all the usable stuff I found after reading your post. It's all over the place in terms of years especially, but for the US stuff only, ngl, I think the numbers could be pretty similar to what they would've been 20-30 years ago, just purely on what the study on schoolkids had and adults probably having even more friends of the other gender, while the non-US stuff seems to indicate that there's a lot of difference between countries.
But yeah, I'd like to see what you think of those.
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