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Experiment At what point would you say you have tried everything and the only thing left is going ER?

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here is what I have tried already:

- PUA in my early to mid 20s, literally every method that´s out there. Approached hundreds of women.

- gym, steroids. Had a completely ripped body with good mass, didn´t do jack shit in terms of attracting women.

- the normie advice: Meet women through hobbies. Didn´t work because women don´t have hobbies.

- run badboy game: back when I thought women cared about personality I got a leather jacket, spiky hair, acted cocky/funny etc... didn´t do jack shit in terms of attracting women.

- tried to personality max. Took workshops in stand up comedy to become more interesting, took up interesting hobbies etc... Women didn´t give a fuck at all.

- tried to become a famous athlete in hopes of getting pussy. Guess what, didn´t work out.

- social circle game. Didn´t work. Most of the women didn´t date anyone else from my social circle either, they were instead holding out for chad.

- every non surgical looksmax I could think of. Was still invisible to women because I don´t look like a Dolce and Gabbana model.

- went to Ukraine with a dating agency for thousands of dollars, but got scammed.

- online dating on and off for years. Hundreds of messages, never got a date.

- speed dating. 100% rejection rate


meanwhile any woman has the ability to get a boyfriend who mogs her in looks and money within 30 minutes of setting up an online profile. It makes me rage with anger and hate knowing this. Dating in this society is such a shit show for men.


what I haven´t done yet, but will try before going ER:

- getting tons of plastic surgery on my face then approach hundreds of women again

- going on a romance tour in Ukraine

- going to the Phillippines to run JBW game and find a wife.

- If that fails permanently move there then spend all my money on hookers, then when the money runs out go ER.
 
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Invest in learning Russian+culture and go to slavic countries of former USSR. If you are not 1/10 stupid you may ascend with a white becky.
 
I'd say 23 or so its completely over and you need to ER
 
Well you didn't provide enough information for us to answer that question. Many things could be causing your failure:

- face
- height
- frame and proportions
- voice
- autistic / aspie personality and / or mannerism
- health indicators (mainly skin condition)

If it's your face, then analyze it throughly and see which plastic surgeries you need.
 
I think all I need to do is lose 20-40 pounds and I'll be good. Plus the Crypto Bull Run should happen by late October, so if I am on schedule I should looks max and money max at the same time. Going ER would only happen if I failed horribly. I wouldn't kill the innocent though, I would kill politicians and Judges. Fantasy of course. I would never actually do such a thing. I'm a good boy. FEDs might be watching.
 
It sounds like you've tried everything. I'm honestly surprised you haven't had success. Either you are worse than you think you are, or you have been really, really unlucky.
At 5'6 with a 4 inch dick, I won't so much as try 1 of these things. :lul:
 
if im in my 40s and havent roped or ascended im going richard ramirez on you faggots. call me the roastie stalker
 
I won't hesitate to do the mission if I get fucked up in the future.

I'd say if I get a blanket party then someone's getting the private Pyle treatment.

That said, I'm not going after everyone else. Only people who harms me.
 
Don't go ER. Find more subtle ways to damage society from within.

Also catfish the fuck out of dating site bitches. They are mostly useless and fickle as fuck. They say they want LTR, but can't even have the patience to tolerate an autist for a day before blocking them.

If you want to write a manifesto, fine, but you don't have to kill yourself or others to get it read.
 
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if im in my 40s and havent roped or ascended im going richard ramirez on you faggots. call me the roastie stalker

Being 5'6 is truly a death sentence.
 
I think Travis Bickle was an Incel. Go TB (without killing anyone) if you want to do something. At least you'll do something constructive.

Don't go ER. Find more subtle ways to damage society from within.

Also catfish the fuck out of dating site bitches. They are mostly useless and fickle as fuck. They say they want LTR, but can't even have the patience to tolerate an autist for a day before blocking them.

If you want to write a manifesto, fine, but you don't have to kill yourself or others to get it read.

Agreed. Nobody needs to die.
 
Didn´t work because women don´t have hobbies.
lol but true af unless dick shopping counts as hobbies
 
Cheezuz Christ - I thought I'd tried a lot of methods to get sex!

The thing is... oh geez, this pisses me off... blue-pilled shitstains will still find a way to say your lack of success is your fault. They'll do anything to protect their delusion. "You need to do things for yourself, not to impress women!" Arrrrgggghhh

I feel angry on your behalf. Alright... here's the only idea I could think of.

If you still have a good body, use a handsome face on your profile. When a girl shows interest, invite her to webcam with you. But on your end, only show your sexy body (not your face). If you record her rubbing her pussy, and she's stupid enough to show her face, you can use that video as sexual-blackmail.

Sorry, that's the best I've got. :-(
 
- went to Ukraine with a dating agency for thousands of dollars, but got scammed.

what I haven´t done yet, but will try before going ER:

- going on a romance tour in Ukraine

Can you elaborate on these two points? I've tried most of the things you have as well. Curious about these since I'm not familiar with either.

Why do you think you've failed? Ie. Are you autistic? Any obvious legitimate facial deformities? What's your height?

Without knowing more, I would guess your absolute best bet is to JBW in Thailand or Philippines. That's pretty much a guarantee of success for any white man. And if you're looking for a wife, these girls will be the kindest, most submissive, patient women to a white man that you can get. So it's really a good deal.

But god help you if you have children with her and one turns out to be a boy. Any girls you make will make fine cocksleeves for Chads. But any sons? Well you know ...
 
All I can see are alot of people wanting to be hERoes but nobody wants to win... Just Walter Kittys/Peacocks/Narcissists & the like sprouting off that they're going to make a name for themselves at the expense of the greater good. The greater good being shattering the blue pill for good which involves successfully destroying the Radfemincels & the Middle Class to Upper class feminazi/femistasi Marxincels & their Soy Boy Sinderkommando buddy boys for good might I add. Also Cuckservatives & Co should not be spared. Hell no for Islamincels who shill & soldier on behalf of Chad who can have 4 wives whilst those dumb asses take a one way ticket to hell in vain & delusion might I add.They're the greatest enemy you'll ever face. Chad/Stacy are just fucking side shows. Normies are sheep . Spreading the black pill. Working through the red pill & then ascending or alleviating oneself through the white pill eventually.

Its a culture war. One that you & I have to win.

Any other are just fucking time wasting & LARPing (gone wrong might I add).
 
Spreading the black pill. Working through the red pill & then ascending or alleviating oneself through the white pill eventually.

Its a culture war. One that you & I have to win.

I'm trying to live with the white pill and MGTOW while I wait for and plan more surgery but it's constant work. I still have to spend hours on this site a day venting to cope. It's very hard to deny your nature as a man or pretend you don't want what you're genetically designed to want.

I agree with you though. But to "win" this culture war you have to shift the goal posts of what "winning" means.

My long term goal for years has just been to live long enough to die a natural death. I don't know why, but to me that's winning because it means I survived everything life threw at me until the end. Short term goals - get a bigger dick, fuck some hookers, continue fixing my face, enjoy the non-women-related things I can in life.

If you're a very subpar man and you make your only goal getting women to love you, you're in for a rough ride.

Unless you find a way to cheat the game like JBW in SEA and you are low inhib enough to pursue this.
 
I'm trying to live with the white pill and MGTOW while I wait for and plan more surgery but it's constant work. I still have to spend hours on this site a day venting to cope. It's very hard to deny your nature as a man or pretend you don't want what you're genetically designed to want.

I agree with you though. But to "win" this culture war you have to shift the goal posts of what "winning" means.

My long term goal for years has just been to live long enough to die a natural death. I don't know why, but to me that's winning because it means I survived everything life threw at me until the end. Short term goals - get a bigger dick, fuck some hookers, continue fixing my face, enjoy the non-women-related things I can in life.

If you're a very subpar man and you make your only goal getting women to love you, you're in for a rough ride.

Unless you find a way to cheat the game like JBW in SEA and you are low inhib enough to pursue this.

Agreed. Its time consuming. There's no denying that. The word win is subjective for that person. The word win can be objective based for all of us here.

ER tactics are fool hardy & reckless. Same as AM & the other simmering hot headed wannabe or precursor hERoes.
 
move to the Philippines

impossible not to get laid if you're white, average and 6'2, you'll be a god there

of course you need money
 
Can you elaborate on these two points? I've tried most of the things you have as well. Curious about these since I'm not familiar with either.

Why do you think you've failed? Ie. Are you autistic? Any obvious legitimate facial deformities? What's your height?

Without knowing more, I would guess your absolute best bet is to JBW in Thailand or Philippines. That's pretty much a guarantee of success for any white man. And if you're looking for a wife, these girls will be the kindest, most submissive, patient women to a white man that you can get. So it's really a good deal.

But god help you if you have children with her and one turns out to be a boy. Any girls you make will make fine cocksleeves for Chads. But any sons? Well you know ...
went to a dating agency in my country who specialises on Ukrainian women. Paid a bunch of money and corresponded with some of the women via letters then flew over there to meet them. Only one of the girls showed up, the other girls mysteriously flaked (they probably never even existed in the first place). In the pics she looked like a 7.5, but as soon as I saw her IRL I knew I got scammed. She was a 4 at best and came from a poor village with no education. I still ended up having unprotected sex with her so that my trip wasn´t all for nothing. I still don´t feel that bad about the whole experience since I managed to score with a girl who was genuinly attracted to me, but she was a really low quality girl.

I want to try again though next year with a romance tour with a different agency. I want to atleast try everything I can to get a white girl before going to Asia.

I´m not autistic, judging by how women have treated me throughout my life I don´t have an ugly face, but I´m not universally attractive either. I do have legitimate facial deformities that I´m trying to correct this year. I have lots of potential to go up with surgery, hence I´m going all out.

I´m 6ft2.

I´ve been to Asia before and yes, if all fails I have a pretty good shot at getting a decent girl from there as long as I keep my hair. I want to try to get a white girl first though.
 
went to a dating agency in my country who specialises on Ukrainian women. Paid a bunch of money and corresponded with some of the women via letters then flew over there to meet them. Only one of the girls showed up, the other girls mysteriously flaked (they probably never even existed in the first place). In the pics she looked like a 7.5, but as soon as I saw her IRL I knew I got scammed. She was a 4 at best and came from a poor village with no education. I still ended up having unprotected sex with her so that my trip wasn´t all for nothing. I still don´t feel that bad about the whole experience since I managed to score with a girl who was genuinly attracted to me, but she was a really low quality girl.

I want to try again though next year with a romance tour with a different agency. I want to atleast try everything I can to get a white girl before going to Asia.

I´m not autistic, judging by how women have treated me throughout my life I don´t have an ugly face, but I´m not universally attractive either. I do have legitimate facial deformities that I´m trying to correct this year. I have lots of potential to go up with surgery, hence I´m going all out.

I´m 6ft2.

I´ve been to Asia before and yes, if all fails I have a pretty good shot at getting a decent girl from there as long as I keep my hair. I want to try to get a white girl first though.

That's reasonable. If you're a 6'2" white guy with a deformed face, then obviously fix your face and all your problems are solved.

That's not an unfixable situation at all. You already have 2/3 of the things women want (tall and white).

Stop being so depressed. I'd kill for those stats as would many of us here. You can easily fix your life. Just get it done.
 
That's reasonable. If you're a 6'2" white guy with a deformed face, then obviously fix your face and all your problems are solved.

That's not an unfixable situation at all. You already have 2/3 of the things women want (tall and white).

Stop being so depressed. I'd kill for those stats as would many of us here. You can easily fix your life. Just get it done.

Agreed.
 
That's reasonable. If you're a 6'2" white guy with a deformed face, then obviously fix your face and all your problems are solved.

That's not an unfixable situation at all. You already have 2/3 of the things women want (tall and white).

Stop being so depressed. I'd kill for those stats as would many of us here. You can easily fix your life. Just get it done.
yes, I realize there are many guys on here who are much worse off.

I just hope that when I do actually get a girl (I still have hope) I won´t be too jaded to enjoy it.
 
So much for NT maxxing.
 
here is what I have tried already:

- PUA in my early to mid 20s, literally every method that´s out there. Approached hundreds of women.

- gym, steroids. Had a completely ripped body with good mass, didn´t do jack shit in terms of attracting women.

- the normie advice: Meet women through hobbies. Didn´t work because women don´t have hobbies.

- run badboy game: back when I thought women cared about personality I got a leather jacket, spiky hair, acted cocky/funny etc... didn´t do jack shit in terms of attracting women.

- tried to personality max. Took workshops in stand up comedy to become more interesting, took up interesting hobbies etc... Women didn´t give a fuck at all.

- tried to become a famous athlete in hopes of getting pussy. Guess what, didn´t work out.

- social circle game. Didn´t work. Most of the women didn´t date anyone else from my social circle either, they were instead holding out for chad.

- every non surgical looksmax I could think of. Was still invisible to women because I don´t look like a Dolce and Gabbana model.

- went to Ukraine with a dating agency for thousands of dollars, but got scammed.

- online dating on and off for years. Hundreds of messages, never got a date.

- speed dating. 100% rejection rate


meanwhile any woman has the ability to get a boyfriend who mogs her in looks and money within 30 minutes of setting up an online profile. It makes me rage with anger and hate knowing this. Dating in this society is such a shit show for men.


what I haven´t done yet, but will try before going ER:

- getting tons of plastic surgery on my face then approach hundreds of women again

- going on a romance tour in Ukraine

- going to the Phillippines to run JBW game and find a wife.

- If that fails permanently move there then spend all my money on hookers, then when the money runs out go ER.

Kinda reminds me of this guy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Paddock
 
I don’t think I’d ever consider going ER. If I wanted to die, I would just focus on roping. I won’t be alive to feel anything about people I’ve killed, nor would I be alive to see society’s reaction, it just seems pointless to me. If I’ve tried everything I’ll just rope, why bother with anything else. I don’t understand why anyone would go ER other than because they have extreme rage and need to release it before dying. I feel rage frequently but never enough to care to set out and get a gun and make a plan to ER.
 

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