At what age is the point of no return were even if you get sex/relationship it's already over?

[MilkTeaPill]

I hear a lot of people say past a certain point it won't even matter if you get sex or a relationship because the damage is already done from you missing out on earlier experiences like teen love. Do you guys feel like this is really true? Like if you have sex and have good relationships in your early 20's it still won't matter since you missed out on teen love?

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Depends on your negative experiences I'd say. It can technically be already over with 16, if you get fucked up to much by society. But normally speaking 25. When you are damaged usually ca. 22. Before you technically have enough time to rewire your brain in a reasonable amount of time before mental development is concluded. (lifefuel for oldcels: according to latest studies it is indeed still possible afterwards just slower)

 

[Spite]

If you missed out on young love(<20), you're a broken man and will never heal.

 

[Weightcel]

If you missed out on young love(<20), you're a broken man and will never heal.

This, although I wouldn't say that young. By ~25-26 you'll be so bitter about the experiences you missed out on that it'll translate into a poor relationship. The power dynamic is fucked up when you're losing your virginity to a girl that is jaded & has taken tons of dicks before you.

 

[MilkTeaPill]

Depends on your negative experiences I'd say. It can technically be already over with 16 if you get fucked up to much by society. But normally speaking 25. When you are damaged usually ca. 22. Before you technically have enough time to rewire your brain in a reasonable amount of time after.

Yeah I feel a crazy amount of guys are incel in the early 20's age range. There are so many betas in college that most likely get no pussy. With the introduction of high quality porn and easy access literally anyone can get it accompanied with isolation of the masses it's laughable that stats are saying people are having more sex then 50 years ago. The top 10% are definitely having more sex but the majority of guys are becoming incel. Some new stats coming out are saying 40% of ethnics are incel. I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of guys are incel.

This, although I wouldn't say that young. By ~25-26 you'll be so bitter about the experiences you missed out on that it'll translate into a poor relationship. The power dynamic is fucked up when you're losing your virginity to a girl that is jaded & has taken tons of dicks before you.

Yep a 22 year old guy can feasibly lose his virginity to a 16-18 year old girl (depending on AOC in country) and the girl could possibly also be a virgin. 16-18 -22 years old no one would bat an eye at that couple in public because they wouldn't see an age difference unless you told them. early 20's guys ages like 20-23 are still considered kids and young by a lot of people. But once you exit your early 20's I think it's really over since you can't really have a real relationship with a prime girl. A lot of prime girls that are like 16 years old go for guys that are in there early 20's, from what I've seen this happens at literally every high school and with all girls that age in every city.

And for those of you saying 16 years old is pedo that is legal in most US states as well as Canada, Australia, New Zealand and basically all of Europe. Some developed countries like Germany and Italy even have an Age of consent of 14.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

They actually don't:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetw...t-experts-say-its-probably-fine/#5c608c34d958

The top 10% are definitely having more sex but the majority of guys are becoming incel. Some new stats coming out are saying 40% of ethnics are incel. I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of guys are incel.

+1 Most normieguys are exxagerating their sexcount anyway.

 

[Deleted member 6101]

If you hadn't had at least one relationship by the end of university (23-25), it's hyperover.

 

[AfrikanCel]

This, although I wouldn't say that young. By ~25-26 you'll be so bitter about the experiences you missed out on that it'll translate into a poor relationship. The power dynamic is fucked up when you're losing your virginity to a girl that is jaded & has taken tons of dicks before you.

This

 

[hunchback]

Even if you get sex and a gf past 26 as an ugly virgin it's over, because that's not a geniune relationship, that's settling, a relationship implies mutual attraction. People get into relationships in their youth, before money, assets, education, etc come into play

 

[fukface]

If you missed out on young love(<20), you're a broken man and will never heal.

Partially true, of course it depends on the individual. Me I'm semi-healed, still fucked up.
I'm 39, only had a handful of relationships and a pathetically small number of them turned sexual (1 being my ex wife). The one girl who took my v-card at 26, one might think I would have cherished her for doing so, and we lived happily ever after. No. About a month later I just got bored of her and stopped contacting her. She caught on pretty quick and we ended the relationship. This is fine with me, I got what I wanted. The sex was good, the rest was not.

EDIT: The moral of this is, since I missed out on so much in my teen years and early 20's, I still suffer to this day with getting and keeping relationships. I don't think very highly of most women, and even though I'm trying to pursue some now, its only for sex, despite what I may tell them otherwise. I've lost any semblance of decency. This behavior is partially due to my upbringing, I had no father in my life and was raised by a single mom and grandparents. None of them had any idea of what dating life was like when I was entering into it. They were also very religious, I believe that may had a lot to do with it as well. I am stone-cold atheist now.

 

[Deleted member 6470]

Partially true, of course it depends on the individual. Me I'm semi-healed, still fucked up.
I'm 39, only had a handful of relationships and a pathetically small number of them turned sexual (1 being my ex wife). The one girl who took my v-card at 26, one might think I would have cherished her for doing so, and we lived happily ever after. No. About a month later I just got bored of her and stopped contacting her. She caught on pretty quick and we ended the relationship. This is fine with me, I got what I wanted. The sex was good, the rest was not.

Incels these days...

 

[MilkTeaPill]

Even if you get sex and a gf past 26 as an ugly virgin it's over, because that's not a geniune relationship, that's settling, a relationship implies mutual attraction. People get into relationships in their youth, before money, assets, education, etc come into play

Yep that's a big part of it. True relationships happen before money is a big factor.

 

[Curious0]

Missing out on teenage sex with a young girl does have a negative impact on your self-esteem I would say. You need to get that validation in your formative years in order to be confident and easy going with females. Even if you somehow get that validation later at >22 due to looksmaxing or anything else, it won't feel as good. A diminished self-esteem will never be healed enough to reach its full potential. Also getting validated by an older woman does not feel as good as getting validated by a young girl in her most fertile age.
I chose 20-21 because at that age you can still, without any doubt, manage to have sex with a young girl (around 16+) and catch up.

 

[MilkTeaPill]

Missing out on teenage sex with a young girl does have a negative impact on your self-esteem I would say. You need to get that validation in your formative years in order to be confident and easy going with females. Even if you somehow get that validation later at >22 due to looksmaxing or anything else, it won't feel as good. A diminished self-esteem will never be healed enough to reach its full potential. Also getting validated by an older woman does not feel as good as getting validated by a young girl in her most fertile age.
I chose 20-21 because at that age you can still, without any doubt, manage to have sex with a young girl (around 16+) and catch up.

Yeah this is what I was thinking to 21/22 years old is the last time to easily fuck a prime 16 year girl (which is legal in like 40 us states and most of the rest of the world) since girls in hs prefer guys in that age range.

 

[Curious0]

Yeah this is what I was thinking to 21/22 years old is the last time to easily fuck a prime 16 year girl (which is legal in like 40 us states and most of the rest of the world) since girls in hs prefer guys in that age range.

Yup was one of the biggest blackpills for me though. Girls don't like guys their age. Heard a classmate say it's awesome if a guy is 25 while she was 16 WTF.

 

[Incelibate anarchist]

Once you hit 20 its really over. You've missed out and theres no going back.

 

[MilkTeaPill]

Yup was one of the biggest blackpills for me though. Girls don't like guys their age. Heard a classmate say it's awesome if a guy is 25 while she was 16 WTF.

Girls like guys that are hot. But they likes guys x2 more when their younger if the guy is hot relatively young like early 20's and has his own money/car and his own place. Think about it kids in highschool will never have their own place and a lot of the time don't have their own car or any money. Girls at 16 don't want a guy with these things cause they're looking for a provider but more so cause they want to date a "mature" guy. The most desirable guy to Junior/Highschool foids is a guy in his early 20's with all the things I've mentioned. That is why every Junior/Highschool girl gos for these guys. a 16 year old boy just can't compare.

 

[BridgeJumper]

If you finish High School and still havent lost your virginity without reason (Religion, lost your dick) Its Over
If you havent lost your virginity by 30 you probably never will unless you buy an escort.

 

[MarriedAndLookin4Fun]

Stage 1: 18
Stage 2: 25-30

At stage 1 you will never be able to experience prime jailbait pussy (unless you go the pedo route ). It's also mentally damaging to see your peers explore themselves and getting into relationships while you rot

Stage 2 is the end of the line, PONR (point of no return) by this point all of your chances are depleted, there is no opportunity to party or club and as an incel the only thing that will approach you are landwhales and roasties that want to "settle down" after riding the cock carousel for the past decade

 

[MilkTeaPill]

Stage 1: 18
Stage 2: 25-30

At stage 1 you will never be able to experience prime jailbait pussy (unless you go the pedo route ). It's also mentally damaging to see your peers explore themselves and getting into relationships while you rot

Stage 2 is the end of the line, PONR (point of no return) by this point all of your chances are depleted, there is no opportunity to party or club and as an incel the only thing that will approach you are landwhales and roasties that want to "settle down" after riding the cock carousel for the past decade

Well that depends what Age of consent is were you live. Some places have age of consent at 14 like Germany and Italy. And most US states and most western countries have age of consent at 16. But other then that yeah you're mostly right. After 25 years old people basically stop having fun and everyone needs to put of the appearance that they are in a serious relationship or getting married or some bs like that.

 

[Deleted member 677]

4. It's over for toddlercels.

 

[fukface]

If you finish High School and still havent lost your virginity without reason (Religion, lost your dick) Its Over
If you havent lost your virginity by 30 you probably never will unless you buy an escort.

I would replace high school with college. If by college you cant get it, yea that's awful. It only gets harder to obtain after that. At least up until the point where you get established in your career and can use that $tatu$ to help. But its only a crutch.

 

[Robo Sapien]

26 tbh. Once your brain is fully developed from the experiences its had, there's no going back.

 

[Blancmange]

I'm almost 42 and yes it does have a impact on your confidence throughout your life, sometimes you don't care but other times you do. I'd say that for me the point of no return was at 26 - 30. I saw escorts at 19 and I'm glad I did that at that age as it at least made me know what sex is like even though what I really wanted was a gf.

One thing is clear in hindsight, is that your chances drop considerably after high school and collage as your social circle starts to diminish rapidly. I think that socialmaxxing may be the only way out of this for people like me, it's too late for me though.