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At this point my Political Ideology is about Pissing off Feminists

ALifeWastedOnRot

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As it stands, I have completely centred my political ideology around whatever will piss off Foids the most, particularly feminists. I possess my own views on what would craft the "optimal" prosperous society for the greatest number of people (free trade, deregulation, small federal government, etc) but that type of thinking no longer satiates me. I don't care about the average person anymore, the average person is either a foid or a cucked simp, they would consider me an incel extremist who just needs to work on his personality. Why should I even speculate on how to improve their standard of living? At this point, politics is simply a battle between tribes, and I'm on team incel, I am fighting against team foid.

I support any politician who cuts aid to single mothers, opposes feminist policy, defund investigations into college sexual assaults (based Trump did this recently), impoverishes foids and betabux, makes the streets more dangerous, and makes travel less accessible.

So far, my support is split between politicians like Trump who drive feminists nuts, and leftists who bring in migrants that harass women and want to make travel a luxury for the super rich, such as Mark Carney. I will support whomever in any particular moment is pushing for the policy that will bring the most harm to the maximum number of foids. That is my only standard.
 
I identify as politically homeless and antiwoke. People accuse me of being right wing but I'm anything but.

Whichever political party is most against feminism, wokeness, intersectionality, dei, affirmative action, anti racism, immigration, is the one I vote for.

I wish there was an area in the political spectrum that was both antiwoke and not right wing.
 
I identify as politically homeless and antiwoke. People accuse me of being right wing but I'm anything but.

Whichever political party is most against feminism, wokeness, intersectionality, dei, affirmative action, anti racism, immigration, is the one I vote for.

I wish there was an area in the political spectrum that was both antiwoke and not right wing.
If you don't mind me asking, how are you not right-wing?
 
I'm an alt-right ancap. I support whatever ideology that gets rid of kikes, niggers, government and allows me to rape foids.
 
If you don't mind me asking, how are you not right-wing?
- I detest capitalism
- I hate boomer ideology (back in the day it was do good bla BLA BLA kids are lazy these days)
- I am not religious
- I am not even a nationalist. Although because I don't want to live in a street with 200 Pakistanis, people call me a nationalist for that reason
- the whole "traditional gender roles" I find bullshit
- the right wing has a lot of grifters

So essentially I'm not right wing because I don't agree with almost anything that is right wing.
 
- I detest capitalism
- I hate boomer ideology (back in the day it was do good bla BLA BLA kids are lazy these days)
- I am not religious
- I am not even a nationalist. Although because I don't want to live in a street with 200 Pakistanis, people call me a nationalist for that reason
- the whole "traditional gender roles" I find bullshit
- the right wing has a lot of grifters

So essentially I'm not right wing because I don't agree with almost anything that is right wing.
What do you have against capitalism and traditional gender roles? I agree with everything else you said.
 
What do you have against capitalism and traditional gender roles? I agree with everything else you said.
Traditional gender roles are boomer cringe. Like dude just be whoever you want to be. I'm not going to bend over backwards just to satisfy from arbitrary notion of what it means to be "a real man".

Capitalism is the religion that creates wagecucks, working long hours, the middle class shrinking, Jeff bezod account increasing, and grifters like self help gurus who tell you to work 20 hours a day if you want to be successful. Capitalism is the second biggest gaslight, right after feminism. Capitalism is also partly to blame for inceldom, because women want higher wages and just to keep up with the dating market you need to first succeed in the money market. It's a huge fucking pyramid scheme that makes 95% poorer each day and the top 5% richer.

Look up graphs displaying the difference between the upper class and middle class over time.

I fucking hate capitalism because it leaves me little free time and energy and resources to do what I want with my life.
 
Traditional gender roles are boomer cringe. Like dude just be whoever you want to be. I'm not going to bend over backwards just to satisfy from arbitrary notion of what it means to be "a real man".
From an individual point of view, it makes sense to do whatever you feel like. If morality doesn't exist, why not live according to your own whim? Nothing contradictory about that. That said, when I think about politics from the framework of Statecraft and building an optimum society, traditional gender roles are crucial. The nuclear family unit is wonderful social institute at raising a population of healthy, well-adjusted, and productive people. I fully support cultural efforts from leaders like Donald Trump and Viktor Orban to promote the family unit as the building block of society.

Desmond Moores, the Anthropologist wrote about this diligently in the naked ape. He argues that the modern family unit is inextricably intertwined into our neurology as humans and therefore any deviation of it will likely lead to long term mental discomfort. Actually offers a pretty good explanation for why inceldom is so torturous, and why simple escortmaxxing is not enough to quell the ill feelings.
Capitalism is the religion that creates wagecucks, working long hours, the middle class shrinking, Jeff bezod account increasing, and grifters like self help gurus who tell you to work 20 hours a day if you want to be successful.
This is completely false. Capitalism creates wealth. Capitalism creates "wagecucks" from the unemployed and impoverished, but through permanent wage increases and accumulation of capital, capitalism allows anyone to ascend into the bourgeois class. It is socialism that leads to poverty, stagnation, and a shrinking middle class. It is socialism that destroys wealth and then forces people to work longhours to rebuild what capitalism has already brought them.
Capitalism is the second biggest gaslight, right after feminism. Capitalism is also partly to blame for inceldom, because women want higher wages and just to keep up with the dating market you need to first succeed in the money market.
It's a huge fucking pyramid scheme that makes 95% poorer each day and the top 5% richer.
Look up graphs displaying the difference between the upper class and middle class over time.

I fucking hate capitalism because it leaves me little free time and energy and resources to do what I want with my life.
I hate socialism because it has made it impossible for me to accumulate wealth at the rate I'd like, buy a house, afford the lifestyle I want, or be the man I want to be.
 
From an individual point of view, it makes sense to do whatever you feel like. If morality doesn't exist, why not live according to your own whim? Nothing contradictory about that. That said, when I think about politics from the framework of Statecraft and building an optimum society, traditional gender roles are crucial. The nuclear family unit is wonderful social institute at raising a population of healthy, well-adjusted, and productive people. I fully support cultural efforts from leaders like Donald Trump and Viktor Orban to promote the family unit as the building block of society.

Desmond Moores, the Anthropologist wrote about this diligently in the naked ape. He argues that the modern family unit is inextricably intertwined into our neurology as humans and therefore any deviation of it will likely lead to long term mental discomfort. Actually offers a pretty good explanation for why inceldom is so torturous, and why simple escortmaxxing is not enough to quell the ill feelings.

This is completely false. Capitalism creates wealth. Capitalism creates "wagecucks" from the unemployed and impoverished, but through permanent wage increases and accumulation of capital, capitalism allows anyone to ascend into the bourgeois class. It is socialism that leads to poverty, stagnation, and a shrinking middle class. It is socialism that destroys wealth and then forces people to work longhours to rebuild what capitalism has already brought them.



I hate socialism because it has made it impossible for me to accumulate wealth at the rate I'd like, buy a house, afford the lifestyle I want, or be the man I want to be.
I understand your points. I do agree with the family unit part.

As for socialism, I'm aware it doesn't work. I'm not a socialist. But that doesn't mean I am ok with late stage capitalism. I do believe in concept there can be a form of capitalism that doesn't fuck the middle class in the ass. But again there's a difference between capitalism as an economic system, and capitalism as a religion. The religion of capitalism is cultural. It's not pragmatic about money. It incentives you to waste away almost half of your life grinding to make someone else richer.
 
I understand your points. I do agree with the family unit part.

As for socialism, I'm aware it doesn't work. I'm not a socialist. But that doesn't mean I am ok with late stage capitalism. I do believe in concept there can be a form of capitalism that doesn't fuck the middle class in the ass. But again there's a difference between capitalism as an economic system, and capitalism as a religion. The religion of capitalism is cultural. It's not pragmatic about money. It incentives you to waste away almost half of your life grinding to make someone else richer.
Under capitalism, the middle class only gets richer until they eventually all become wealthy. It's only those who refuse to work at all that fall behind in capitalism.
 
Under capitalism, the middle class only gets richer until they eventually all become wealthy. It's only those who refuse to work at all that fall behind in capitalism.
Not true. Under capitalism the money gets increasingly pushed upward. The middle class starts shrinking over time. And the lower class grows. This is what's going on in many countries right now. But I'm not an economist so I can't explain what causes this.
 
Not true. Under capitalism the money gets increasingly pushed upward. The middle class starts shrinking over time. And the lower class grows. This is what's going on in many countries right now. But I'm not an economist so I can't explain what causes this.
This isn't true at all. Money goes to whomever can produce a good or service that others want to consume. The more money the wealthy get, the more they have to invest, this spurs opportunity for others and makes wealth abundant for the lower and middle classes. Before we switched to socialism, we saw real wages rise for all levels of society. From 1870 to 1913, real wages for the lowest level workers increased 5% a year in real terms.
 
This isn't true at all. Money goes to whomever can produce a good or service that others want to consume. The more money the wealthy get, the more they have to invest, this spurs opportunity for others and makes wealth abundant for the lower and middle classes. Before we switched to socialism, we saw real wages rise for all levels of society. From 1870 to 1913, real wages for the lowest level workers increased 5% a year in real terms.
What you are saying makes sense as an esoteric argument, but it simply doesn't correspond to reality. Look the concept of capitalism is something that would take a really long time for me to explain and tell you personal stories about why it doesn't work. My suggestion, if you are that intrigued by the topic, is to let go of typical capitalist talking points, and look up why meritocracy doesn't work. Look up stories of people with Phd's and make minimum wage. Look up all sorts of evidence there is out there. Each industry is corrupt in some way or another in the capitalism system.

Your argumen is the same argument I've heard from every single capitalist which is "it's all about offer, demand, and value" is very simplistic. It doesn't actually work that way in most cases.

But if your argument is a historical argument, comparing capitalism with socialism, yes I do agree socialism doesn't work. But that doesn't mean capitalism is free of toxicity.

At the end of the day, you can create a lot of value for the market, and still be paid shit. You can be in a high demand market (like IT) and still get paid shit. You can be irreplaceable in a company, demand an increase in your sallary, and they say "no". Because besides the maths in economics, you must also account the culture, and also the corruption of the industry. The IT industry is very corrupt. And the medical industry is also super corrupt. Where I'm from, you can be a neurosurgeon and you still make like 2000€ a month (which is nothing, hardly 3 times minimum wage). Because the entire system itself refuses to pay people decent sallaries. What people produce and contribute has little relevance to what they earn.

This isn't a matter of me disagreeing with you. This is about you having too idealistic of a vision of capitalism. Capitalism in real life is actually quite garbage, quite unfair. Social mobility hardly exists these days.
 
This isn't true at all. Money goes to whomever can produce a good or service that others want to consume. The more money the wealthy get, the more they have to invest, this spurs opportunity for others and makes wealth abundant for the lower and middle classes. Before we switched to socialism, we saw real wages rise for all levels of society. From 1870 to 1913, real wages for the lowest level workers increased 5% a year in real terms.

Look up why they called it the gilded age retart.
 
If you unironically believe in any of the "gilded age" propaganda then you're too stupid to be on this forum. Go scroll reels and watch Nascar.

ALifeWastedOnRot

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Fuck capitalism

Also centering your whole ideology around pissing off feminists is dumb as shit. I am against male hierarchies and "feminism" or "feminist theorists" or whatever just so happen to be against that as well, doesn't mean that I'm a feminist because I find that a whole lot of them are hypocrites and don't stick to any of their thoughts at all
 
If you unironically believe in any of the "gilded age" propaganda then you're too stupid to be on this forum. Go scroll reels and watch Nascar.

I have a B.A. in history and have done more readings on this time period then you will do in a million years.

It’s to bad dipshits like you don’t have to work in a foundry or a mine 16 hours a day 6 days a week, it’s what you deserve.
 
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I have a B.A. in history and have done more readings on this time period then you will do in a million years.
No you haven't. I'm far more read on this topic than your entire bloodline. I've spent my free time reading about this stuff since I was young. Your B.A. was at a degree mill for Indians and you ChatGPTed your way through class.
It’s to bad dipshits like you don’t have to work in a foundry or a mine 16 hours a day 6 days a week, it’s what you deserve.
Yeah, I don't have to work in a factory because thanks to the gilded age and market capitalism between 1870 - 1913, we innovated enough to bolster marginal productivity to the point where we don't have to.

If disgusting socialists like yourself had your way back then we never would have advanced to the point where long hours in a factory became redundant.
 
No you haven't. I'm far more read on this topic than your entire bloodline. I've spent my free time reading about this stuff since I was young. Your B.A. was at a degree mill for Indians and you ChatGPTed your way through class.

I’m a white guy from the U.S. and I went to a small land grant liberal arts college that was founded in the 1850’s but whatever. And I’m a millennial so I graduated a decade before ChatGPT existed. Just cause you’re a braindead zoomer doesn’t mean everyone else is.

Yeah, I don't have to work in a factory because thanks to the gilded age and market capitalism between 1870 - 1913, we innovated enough to bolster marginal productivity to the point where we don't have to.

If disgusting socialists like yourself had your way back then we never would have advanced to the point where long hours in a factory became redundant.

No, we don’t have to do that anymore thanks to things like unions and government intervention that made the exploration that happened back then illegal.

But feel free to move to a place that practices the free market capitalism you whack off too, maybe El Salvador or something, they could always use another hand in the sweatshop.
 
I’m a white guy from the U.S. and I went to a small land grant liberal arts college that was founded in the 1850’s but whatever. And I’m a millennial so I graduated a decade before ChatGPT existed. Just cause you’re a braindead zoomer doesn’t mean everyone else is.
You clearly are braindead if you actually believe the shit-tier anti-capitalist propaganda that leftists love to spew, and if you support things like government intervention and unions.
No, we don’t have to do that anymore thanks to things like unions and government intervention that made the exploration that happened back then illegal.
No, it's because free enterprise and reinvestment of capital increased our productivity so drastically that we can afford to not be in sweatshops. Capitalism has risen our average productivity levels so much that we can produce significantly more while only working 8 hour days in air conditioned offices, but for us to get to that point, we needed to allow capital stock to accumulate and for profits to be reinvested in further equipment, machinery, and innovation. In 1850 people had to work 16 hours a day to meet ends meet because we hadn't yet mastered industrial efficiency, so it took longer to produce the same basket of goods that took people in 1920s 10 hours to produce. It was unions and government intervention that stagnated our inevitable ascension out of poverty by putting obstacles in front of the Industrialists and investors of whom were needed to drive this progress.
But feel free to move to a place that practices the free market capitalism you whack off too, maybe El Salvador or something, they could always use another hand in the sweatshop.
Yes because Venezuela is known for not having sweatshops. I have an idea for you. If you hate free market capitalism, get the fuck out of the United States, move to Venezuela, move to Somalia, move to Libya, move to a nation that reflects your values. You clearly hate the West and what it stands for. Why don't you go live your communist dream?
 
You clearly are braindead if you actually believe the shit-tier anti-capitalist propaganda that leftists love to spew, and if you support things like government intervention and unions.

No, it's because free enterprise and reinvestment of capital increased our productivity so drastically that we can afford to not be in sweatshops. Capitalism has risen our average productivity levels so much that we can produce significantly more while only working 8 hour days in air conditioned offices, but for us to get to that point, we needed to allow capital stock to accumulate and for profits to be reinvested in further equipment, machinery, and innovation. In 1850 people had to work 16 hours a day to meet ends meet because we hadn't yet mastered industrial efficiency, so it took longer to produce the same basket of goods that took people in 1920s 10 hours to produce. It was unions and government intervention that stagnated our inevitable ascension out of poverty by putting obstacles in front of the Industrialists and investors of whom were needed to drive this progress.

Yes because Venezuela is known for not having sweatshops. I have an idea for you. If you hate free market capitalism, get the fuck out of the United States, move to Venezuela, move to Somalia, move to Libya, move to a nation that reflects your values. You clearly hate the West and what it stands for. Why don't you go live your communist dream?
I could make paragraphs to call out all of this retarded sewage you just spit, about Venezuela because I live in a cousin country and have already studied about the political situation in it. And what you said about unions is laughable.

However I am both very tired, typing this late at night on my phone which is very hard to type on. All I'll say for now is to think instead of basing your opinions on biased presuppositions.

I'll look at this tomorrow, when I'm more clear-minded.
 
I could make paragraphs to call out all of this retarded sewage you just spit, about Venezuela because I live in a cousin country and have already studied about the political situation in it. And what you said about unions is laughable.

However I am both very tired, typing this late at night on my phone which is very hard to type on. All I'll say for now is to think instead of basing your opinions on biased presuppositions.

I'll look at this tomorrow, when I'm more clear-minded.
There's nothing you could say to call anything I said out. What I said is based on facts and a proper analysis of history. Your entire worldview is crafted based on bias and easily debunked propaganda. Socialist intervention does not increase productivity or provide workers with a higher standard of living, the only way to achieve a higher standard of living for workers is to increase their marginal productivity. This is done by allowing an unfettered market to work its wonders and find its equilibrium in peace.
 
You clearly are braindead if you actually believe the shit-tier anti-capitalist propaganda that leftists love to spew, and if you support things like government intervention and unions.

Just because I don’t believe in Randite anything goes capitalism doesn’t mean I’m a socialists. But you’re probably too stupid to understand nuance.
No, it's because free enterprise and reinvestment of capital increased our productivity so drastically that we can afford to not be in sweatshops. Capitalism has risen our average productivity levels so much that we can produce significantly more while only working 8 hour days in air conditioned offices, but for us to get to that point, we needed to allow capital stock to accumulate and for profits to be reinvested in further equipment, machinery, and innovation. In 1850 people had to work 16 hours a day to meet ends meet because we hadn't yet mastered industrial efficiency, so it took longer to produce the same basket of goods that took people in 1920s 10 hours to produce. It was unions and government intervention that stagnated our inevitable ascension out of poverty by putting obstacles in front of the Industrialists and investors of whom were needed to drive this progress.

Yes obstacles like banning child labor or food safety regulations.

There is a reason the progressive era happened, it’s because the titians of industry you love so much we’re making the workers live such a nightmare that people like Teddy Roosevelt ( an insanely rich man who hated Marxism) had to step in or an actual revolution would have eventually happened. Look up William Jennings Bryant or the Haymarket Riot sometime.

Yes because Venezuela is known for not having sweatshops. I have an idea for you. If you hate free market capitalism, get the fuck out of the United States, move to Venezuela, move to Somalia, move to Libya, move to a nation that reflects your values. You clearly hate the West and what it stands for. Why don't you go live your communist dream?

Again just because I’m not a dog eat dog libertarian doesn’t make me a socialists. I want a capitalist system with a strong social safety net. I don’t want the government to control everything, but it absolutely has a role to play in ameliorating the excesses of the free market.

Somalia doesn’t have a very powerful central government either, that sounds like your type of place. That place should be a utopia right? No pesky government regulation to get in the way of John Gault huh?

And if you actually support free markets shouldn’t you hate the tard in your AVI whose putting tariffs in everything?

And he never misses an opportunity to whack off some anti-west dictator and shit on our allies. Christ you must hate that guy, unless you’re a fucking moron who has no idea what he’s talking about, but that can’t be it.
 
Just because I don’t believe in Randite anything goes capitalism doesn’t mean I’m a socialists. But you’re probably too stupid to understand nuance.
Any form of intervention in the economy is some form of exertion of ownership over the means of production. The only way one has true unfettered ownership over their property is if they have total control over it and are entitled to 100% of the proceeds. When governments control how much you can pay your employees, who you can hire and fire, and reap the profits, they are exerting ownership. You're probably too dumb to have thought this out, so I have to lay it out for you.
Yes obstacles like banning child labor or food safety regulations.
Ok so you're making my argument for me, thank you.
There is a reason the progressive era happened, it’s because the titians of industry you love so much we’re making the workers live such a nightmare that people like Teddy Roosevelt ( an insanely rich man who hated Marxism) had to step in or an actual revolution would have eventually happened. Look up William Jennings Bryant or the Haymarket Riot sometime.
Please look up wages from 1870 to 1913, and how marginal productivity drastically increased during this time. The reason the Progressive Era happened had absolutely nothing to do evil Titans of industry and everything to do with economic illiteracy running rampant. Workers lived far better lives in the 1910s than they did in the 1870s, and all economic data shows this. Teddy Roosevelt was a tyrant who sought to use left-wing populism to achieve political power and grant himself undeserved political power. He even used Sherman Anti-Trust to destroy one of America's greatest oil companies, smashing it to pieces and forcing a sell off.
Again just because I’m not a dog eat dog libertarian doesn’t make me a socialists. I want a capitalist system with a strong social safety net. I don’t want the government to control everything, but it absolutely has a role to play in ameliorating the excesses of the free market.
So you want people to have their money stolen from them, you want businesses to have their profits reaped, and reallocated accordingly by a slew of politicians and bureaucrats according to what they deem in the best interest of society? Yeah you're a socialist. The only role the Federal government has is to protect National Security, that's literally it.
Somalia doesn’t have a very powerful central government either, that sounds like your type of place. That place should be a utopia right? No pesky government regulation to get in the way of John Gault huh?
That's literally your kind of place. A place where private property isn't protected. If I run a business in Somalia, some thug can come and steal my shit and "redistribute" it to his friends. Some Pirate can come and kill me if he doesn't agree with my business practices, maybe he'll hit me over the head with a Big Stick like your boy Teddy Roosevelt.
And if you actually support free markets shouldn’t you hate the tard in your AVI whose putting tariffs in everything?
As much as I disagree with tariffs, I can forgive him for that considering he's taking a sludge-hammer to the government intervention that I despise the most. Trump has signed a 10-1 deregulation executive order that forces all Federal Agencies to remove 10 regulations for every new one added, he's attacking social security, medicaid, and medicare in his proposed budgets. He obliterated the Dept of Education, firing Federal Bureaucrats left and right, he's allowing Elon to deregulate everything regarding Aviation and Space Exploration, he's lowering taxes on corporations and dropping marginal tax rates. All the increases in government spending has gone to the military, which is the one legitimate Federal function that is legitimate, and one of the only few that are constitutionally permissible.
And he never misses an opportunity to whack off some anti-west dictator and shit on our allies. Christ you must hate that guy, unless you’re a fucking moron who has no idea what he’s talking about, but that can’t be it.
"Anti-West Dictators" offer their citizens far more freedom than the "Western Leaders" do. This isn't 1890 when the West actually had freedom. It's in the "free world" where kids are taken from their parents if mom and dad dare to reject their child's new "gender identity". It's in England where Kier Starmer will send you to prison for sharing an offensive meme. Germany is where you'll be imprisoned for doing a salute. In every single European nation they have seatbelt laws, mandated by the E.U itself. Finland is criminalizing the sale of cigarettes for anyone born after 2006.

The only people who hate Donald Trump are the people who have absolutely zero understanding of the world, and they still believe we're living in 1905 when the West was the beacon of freedom. The West as we know it today has been taken over by feminists and nanny state freaks.
 
Any form of intervention in the economy is some form of exertion of ownership over the means of production. The only way one has true unfettered ownership over their property is if they have total control over it and are entitled to 100% of the proceeds. When governments control how much you can pay your employees, who you can hire and fire, and reap the profits, they are exerting ownership. You're probably too dumb to have thought this out, so I have to lay it out for you.

Ok so you're making my argument for me, thank you.

Please look up wages from 1870 to 1913, and how marginal productivity drastically increased during this time. The reason the Progressive Era happened had absolutely nothing to do evil Titans of industry and everything to do with economic illiteracy running rampant. Workers lived far better lives in the 1910s than they did in the 1870s, and all economic data shows this. Teddy Roosevelt was a tyrant who sought to use left-wing populism to achieve political power and grant himself undeserved political power. He even used Sherman Anti-Trust to destroy one of America's greatest oil companies, smashing it to pieces and forcing a sell off.

So you want people to have their money stolen from them, you want businesses to have their profits reaped, and reallocated accordingly by a slew of politicians and bureaucrats according to what they deem in the best interest of society? Yeah you're a socialist. The only role the Federal government has is to protect National Security, that's literally it.

That's literally your kind of place. A place where private property isn't protected. If I run a business in Somalia, some thug can come and steal my shit and "redistribute" it to his friends. Some Pirate can come and kill me if he doesn't agree with my business practices, maybe he'll hit me over the head with a Big Stick like your boy Teddy Roosevelt.

As much as I disagree with tariffs, I can forgive him for that considering he's taking a sludge-hammer to the government intervention that I despise the most. Trump has signed a 10-1 deregulation executive order that forces all Federal Agencies to remove 10 regulations for every new one added, he's attacking social security, medicaid, and medicare in his proposed budgets. He obliterated the Dept of Education, firing Federal Bureaucrats left and right, he's allowing Elon to deregulate everything regarding Aviation and Space Exploration, he's lowering taxes on corporations and dropping marginal tax rates. All the increases in government spending has gone to the military, which is the one legitimate Federal function that is legitimate, and one of the only few that are constitutionally permissible.

"Anti-West Dictators" offer their citizens far more freedom than the "Western Leaders" do. This isn't 1890 when the West actually had freedom. It's in the "free world" where kids are taken from their parents if mom and dad dare to reject their child's new "gender identity". It's in England where Kier Starmer will send you to prison for sharing an offensive meme. Germany is where you'll be imprisoned for doing a salute. In every single European nation they have seatbelt laws, mandated by the E.U itself. Finland is criminalizing the sale of cigarettes for anyone born after 2006.

The only people who hate Donald Trump are the people who have absolutely zero understanding of the world, and they still believe we're living in 1905 when the West was the beacon of freedom. The West as we know it today has been taken over by feminists and nanny state freaks.

I don’t have the time or patients to debunk all these pretentious ahistorical ramblings, please read or more likely watch something other than insane libertarian propaganda. I’d recommended this book ( https://www.amazon.com/Republic-Which-Stands-Reconstruction-1865-1896/dp/0199735816 ) to anyone who wants to get an actual look at what this time was actually like.

Again dumb-dumb, I’m not a Marxist, the government shouldn’t have control over the means of production, private property and free markets are good things. But without the government smoothing the edges of this, well, I’d honestly recommend playing the first Bioshock game to get an idea of what that would look like.

No, Somila is a place where the brave industrialist is free from government red tape like child labor or environmental laws, where he can dump shit in the drinking water without the man interfering with his business. He can always hire his own private security, without those bothersome laws about human rights.

I don’t like some of the free speech stuff that’s happening in Europe, but since I don’t live there I don’t care that much. But if you think Western Europe is less free then fucking Russia or China your seriously fucked in the head. If you hate the west so much, feel free to get the fuck out and move to the paradise that is North Korea or whatever. But that would require you to leave mom’s basement, so that’s not going to happen. Unlike you I actually have a job so I’ll even chip in for a one way ticket.
 
I don’t have the time or patients to debunk all these pretentious ahistorical ramblings, please read or more likely watch something other than insane libertarian propaganda. I’d recommended this book ( https://www.amazon.com/Republic-Which-Stands-Reconstruction-1865-1896/dp/0199735816 ) to anyone who wants to get an actual look at what this time was actually like.
The irony of telling me to read a book that you have neve read yourself. You don't read history, you don't study economics, you don't even look at historical sources. You scroll reels on Tiktok and Instagram Reels and think you're fighting the man by parroting what the algorithm wants you to read.
Again dumb-dumb, I’m not a Marxist, the government shouldn’t have control over the means of production, private property and free markets are good things. But without the government smoothing the edges of this, well,
Hey moron... government intervention directly contradicts the philosophies of Hayek and Mises, you can't be a free market Libertarian and support 90% of the garbage that you purport.
I’d honestly recommend playing the first Bioshock game to get an idea of what that would look like.
JFL your source is literally a fictional videogame set in an underwater city LMAO
No, Somila is a place where the brave industrialist is free from government red tape like child labor or environmental laws, where he can dump shit in the drinking water without the man interfering with his business. He can always hire his own private security, without those bothersome laws about human rights.
Somalia is literally your ideal utopia, the warlord (government) doesn't have to adhere to ones' private property. Nobody has human rights, just like you'd want it, and anyone who protests for their human rights will get stomped by the gover... I mean warlord. It sounds like a utopia for someone like you who wants to abolish my rights and treat human beings like slaves.
I don’t like some of the free speech stuff that’s happening in Europe, but since I don’t live there I don’t care that much. But if you think Western Europe is less free then fucking Russia or China your seriously fucked in the head. If you hate the west so much, feel free to get the fuck out and move to the paradise that is North Korea or whatever.
If you're against child labor and free market capitalism, stop wearing clothes, make your own clothes. Never again eat chocolate, since it's made by low paid workers. Don't use eletronics, Iphones are off the table. Anything with Cobalt cannot even be touched. In fact, just get the fuck out of North America. We don't want you. Move to Somalia, move to Europe, go live in a shithole if you want to emulate tose societies so much.
, But that would require you to leave mom’s basement, so that’s not going to happen. Unlike you I actually have a job so I’ll even chip in for a one way ticket.
You don't have a job. People with jobs don't adhere to left-wing garbage.
 
The irony of telling me to read a book that you have neve read yourself. You don't read history, you don't study economics, you don't even look at historical sources. You scroll reels on Tiktok and Instagram Reels and think you're fighting the man by parroting what the algorithm wants you to read.

Hey moron... government intervention directly contradicts the philosophies of Hayek and Mises, you can't be a free market Libertarian and support 90% of the garbage that you purport.

JFL your source is literally a fictional videogame set in an underwater city LMAO

Somalia is literally your ideal utopia, the warlord (government) doesn't have to adhere to ones' private property. Nobody has human rights, just like you'd want it, and anyone who protests for their human rights will get stomped by the gover... I mean warlord. It sounds like a utopia for someone like you who wants to abolish my rights and treat human beings like slaves.

If you're against child labor and free market capitalism, stop wearing clothes, make your own clothes. Never again eat chocolate, since it's made by low paid workers. Don't use eletronics, Iphones are off the table. Anything with Cobalt cannot even be touched. In fact, just get the fuck out of North America. We don't want you. Move to Somalia, move to Europe, go live in a shithole if you want to emulate tose societies so much.

You don't have a job. People with jobs don't adhere to left-wing garbage.

Whatever GrAY.
 
Socialist lunatic.

Hopefully when Trump brings us back to the era you love, we can get rid of the FDA and the USDA. Then you can hopefully eat food that has Botulism or Listeria in it, die a painful death, and this country will be a smarter and better place with you as worm food.
 
Hopefully when Trump brings us back to the era you love, we can get rid of the FDA and the USDA. Then you can hopefully eat food that has Botulism or Listeria in it, die a painful death, and this country will be a smarter and better place with you as worm food.
I honestly hope you do end up moving to a Communist Nation and when you're waiting in the breadlines or starving on the streets, you think back to this conversation and regret your moronic worldview.

You had no excuse to be stupid, you have access to the worlds information at your fingertips.
 
So, basically Incel Reactionary Nihilism?
 
Hopefully when Trump brings us back to the era you love, we can get rid of the FDA and the USDA. Then you can hopefully eat food that has Botulism or Listeria in it, die a painful death, and this country will be a smarter and better place with you as worm food.
I honestly hope you do end up moving to a Communist Nation and when you're waiting in the breadlines or starving on the streets, you think back to this conversation and regret your moronic worldview.

You had no excuse to be stupid, you have access to the worlds information at your fingertips.
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I honestly hope you do end up moving to a Communist Nation and when you're waiting in the breadlines or starving on the streets, you think back to this conversation and regret your moronic worldview.

You had no excuse to be stupid, you have access to the worlds information at your fingertips.

This is the last time I’m going to waste my time trying to explain this to you, I’m not a communists. You have no fucking idea what a communist actually is. You didn’t go to college, you don’t work, if we actually lived in your world parasites like you would have died a long time ago.

I actually get my information from books, I have never used Instagram or Tic-Tok in my life. Since I’m not a zoomer whose attention span is dead from social media I can actually read books. I don’t have to depend on dumbass amateur shit from fucking YouTube.
 
This is the last time I’m going to waste my time trying to explain this to you, I’m not a communists. You have no fucking idea what a communist actually is. You didn’t go to college, you don’t work, if we actually lived in your world parasites like you would have died a long time ago.
This is the last time I'm going to explain this to you.... the conditions of the Gilded Age were due to lack of productivity due to lack of capital stock and technology. We have mastered the ability to purify water for a very cheap cost, and I can EASILY afford to purchase my food and water from reputable brands that don't poison their product. And even if I couldn't afford that, my MUNICiPAL government would provide water, and would be regulated under its own standards that the people of my city have greater democratic control over.

The reason we were able to create an abundant society where we can mass produce cheap food and pure water for everyone is BECAUSE we allowed unfettered capitalism to rapidly grow the economy in per capita terms to the point where we're productive enough to provide for everyone. Attempts to interfere with the market via taxation and redistribution hamper this process.
I actually get my information from books, I have never used Instagram or Tic-Tok in my life. Since I’m not a zoomer whose attention span is dead from social media I can actually read books. I don’t have to depend on dumbass amateur shit from fucking YouTube.
You don't get your information from books. You clearly don't read, you never went to school, you never went to college. You don't even have a job. You get your information from 5 second reels because you're too lazy to read or study anything. It's why you have no clue what capitalism is or free market economics are, or why we have higher real wages than we did 150 years ago. You're stupid and a failure and that's why you're afraid of social darwinism.
 
National Socialism is a very interesting concept, however it's important to note that Hitler did recognize free market capitalism as superior for enhancing standard of living. His shift to a State economy was geopolitical, he wanted to sever Germany's dependence on international markets and tailor the production apparatus to support a war economy. I think from a purely economic view he would support market economies.
 
National Socialism is a very interesting concept, however it's important to note that Hitler did recognize free market capitalism as superior for enhancing standard of living. His shift to a State economy was geopolitical, he wanted to sever Germany's dependence on international markets and tailor the production apparatus to support a war economy. I think from a purely economic view he would support market economies.
Free Market Capitalism specifically is inherently selfish and promotes degeneracy. He did NOT support or recognize it as superior in the way classical liberals or modern capitalists would understand it
 
Free Market Capitalism specifically is inherently selfish and promotes degeneracy. He did NOT support or recognize it as superior in the way classical liberals or modern capitalists would understand it
I'll try to find it, but in a conversation with industrialists he emphasized that free market capitalism and free enterprise must remain unhampered from the greedy masses who would vote for selfish redistribution. He was basically making the case to big business that you need a fascist state to ensure the don't implement Democratic reforms.
 

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