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Serious As an incel which of these takes(conservative vs progressive) better describe your position for the future.

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Conservative take- I believe that people in the past did it best. Controlling hypergamy via institutions of monogamy and patriarchy. Thus ensuring every guy a girl. The only system that's known to work. Sure it may require centralized state action and suspension of certain liberties and freedoms to achieve this effect(foids can no longer freely whore, chads can no longer slay) . But that's a worthy sacrifice. Countering degenerate "progress" should be the end goal and is achievable through concerted efforts on part of adversely affected men.

Progressive take- We are past the point of no return. We can't roll back technology, modern feminist values, contraceptives, internet, social media and all the other things that support hypergamy and degeneracy. And wealthy billionaires and bankers ensure that the States may never gain enough power to enact anti-progressive legislations. So the only way forward is to alleviate rising inceldom with the same modernity and tech which caused it in the first place. This may include escorting(more acceptance of prostitution), better porn, onlyfans, better sex dolls/sex toys, sex robots, artificial castration(transexual transition, induced asexuality), betabuxxing older roasties, polyandry ,pregnancy via surrogacy etc.

You DON'T have to agree 100% with either point just choose the one you incline towards more. Or write up your own opinion.
 
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I know I can't change shit so I really just don't care.
 
Conservative take is prescriptive while progressive take is predictive. Technocrats will control the incel problem through welfare sexbots, and incels will be satisfied with their band-aid solutions (this is how they've been dealing with underclass struggles for last ~300 years).
 
Conservative take is a fantasy that'll never come to pass.
After my hair transplant I will lead the international conservative-patriarchal revival. Trust the plan.
 
Conservative take- I believe that people in the past did it best. Controlling hypergamy via institutions of monogamy and patriarchy. Thus ensuring every guy a girl. The only system that's known to work. Sure it may require centralized state action and suspension of certain liberties and freedoms to achieve this effect(foids can no longer freely whore, chads can no longer slay) . But that's a worthy sacrifice. Countering degenerate "progress" should be the end goal and is achievable through concerted efforts on part of adversely affected men.

Progressive take- We are past the point of no return. We can't roll back technology, modern feminist values, contraceptives, internet, social media and all the other things that support hypergamy and degeneracy. And wealthy billionaires and bankers ensure that the States may never gain enough power to enact anti-progressive legislations. So the only way forward is to alleviate rising inceldom with the same modernity and tech which caused it in the first place. This may include escorting(more acceptance of prostitution), better porn, better sex dolls/sex toys, sex robots, artificial castration(transexual transition, induced asexuality), betabuxxing older roasties, polyandry ,pregnancy via surrogacy etc.

You DON'T have to agree 100% with either point just choose the one you incline towards more. Or write up your own opinion.
I don't give a fuck about both but i like conservs better because gun rights and more rights for whites :feelsdevil: also most are retarded so i can relate
 
Its too late. Let it burn and give us sex bots and artificial wombs.
 
The progressive take downplays on how artificial and unsustainable the current socioeconomic stare of affairs is, so I'm siding with the conservative one.
 
let's create farms where we can cheaply produce genetically engineered stacies

im cooming
 
I can’t wait for the incoming collapse so I can become a rural feudal warlord and enslave Chads to make them work the farms while I turn the Stacies into sex slaves and breeding machines. In GTA V.
 
Conservative take is impossible now that culture is cucked. Kikes made sure all the real men of the generation died in WW2 and in their absence liberated women to double the work force, because fuck society if you can get richer. There is no way to undo this and just disenfranchise almost half of a nation's workers.
 
let's create farms where we can cheaply produce genetically engineered stacies

im cooming
There are hidden implications here. If we could mass produce humans in farm there's a good possibility that it would replace conventional reproduction. All humans would be born that way and sex would be rendered obsolete. Infact the new crop of humans could be modified to not want sex at all. And the elites will have all the slave labour they want.
 
I side with the progressive take, specifically transhumanism. My only hope is that society leans into technology enough that we can transcend our base primal desires altogether.

I've always been interested in the concept in mind-uploading and transferring my conciousness into a digital medium. It probably won't happen in my lifetime though, and there's the potential of creating an eternal hellscape which cannot even be escaped by death.
 
There are hidden implications here. If we could mass produce humans in farm there's a good possibility that it would replace conventional reproduction. All humans would be born that way and sex would be rendered obsolete. Infact the new crop of humans could be modified to not want sex at all. And the elites will have all the slave labour they want.
Brutal
 
Conservative take- I believe that people in the past did it best. Controlling hypergamy via institutions of monogamy and patriarchy. Thus ensuring every guy a girl. The only system that's known to work. Sure it may require centralized state action and suspension of certain liberties and freedoms to achieve this effect(foids can no longer freely whore, chads can no longer slay) . But that's a worthy sacrifice. Countering degenerate "progress" should be the end goal and is achievable through concerted efforts on part of adversely affected men.

Progressive take- We are past the point of no return. We can't roll back technology, modern feminist values, contraceptives, internet, social media and all the other things that support hypergamy and degeneracy. And wealthy billionaires and bankers ensure that the States may never gain enough power to enact anti-progressive legislations. So the only way forward is to alleviate rising inceldom with the same modernity and tech which caused it in the first place. This may include escorting(more acceptance of prostitution), better porn, onlyfans, better sex dolls/sex toys, sex robots, artificial castration(transexual transition, induced asexuality), betabuxxing older roasties, polyandry ,pregnancy via surrogacy etc.

You DON'T have to agree 100% with either point just choose the one you incline towards more. Or write up your own opinion.
I'll chose progressive, but why the fuck his porn and only fans in your progressive list?, that is some cuck shit, you might was well put strip clubs in too

Actually scratch that I'm not fucking voting

I'm glad I didn't click anything before typing this out, seriously dude what the fuck, why is castration and becoming trans in that list, what the fuck is wrong with you, you are clearly setting things up with a rigged option because you want people to choose conservative lol

This entire thread is the perfect example of a "loaded question"

"Are you going to make the "worthy sacrifice" and try to "counter degeneracy", or are you alright with induced asexuality and cutting your dick off to become a woman?"
 
I'll chose progressive, but why the fuck his porn and only fans in your progressive list?, that is some cuck shit, you might was well put strip clubs in too

Actually scratch that I'm not fucking voting

I'm glad I didn't click anything before typing this out, seriously dude what the fuck, why is castration and becoming trans in that list, what the fuck is wrong with you, you are clearly setting things up with a rigged option because you want people to choose conservative lol

This entire thread is the perfect example of a "loaded question"

"Are you going to make the "worthy sacrifice" and try to "counter degeneracy", or are you alright with induced asexuality and cutting your dick off to become a woman?"
I've already stated that you don't have to agree 100% with either. Just the general gist of where your views lie. As cucked as some of the options in progressive list are from a blackpilled perspective it is still a FACT that lonely virgin modern men WILL pay for porn, onlyfans and some of them WILL resort to transitioning and this will become more and more common as modern society renders gender roles, marriage and family systems obsolete. I just wanted to cover everything. And that did not deter many from still choosing progressive. Also I used the word "worthy" from the reader's perspective not my own.
 

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