Discussion Are you pro antinatalism

[Eternalifeofdoom]

The primary goal of sex is reproduction, but let's be realistic even if you hypothetically ascend why would you want to bring a child into this existence just to repeat the cycle of suffering you experienced ?


So the alternative is to approach sex hedonisticly only to satisfy your physical needs this seems ideal and reasonable however it wouldn't be satisfactory to the level blue-pilled normies and chads , because you're guided by the blackpill you're aware no foid will be physically attracted to you therfore you lack intimacy and obviously you can't buy that nor fake it and the Ego stroke is a huge part of sex as well so in conclusion you left with a sexdoll "metaphorically speaking" so you might as well just fapmaxx. The only solution that i see is to drugmaxx during sex be it if you ascend or when escortmaxxing.

This is all just theories anyway maybe am coping so hard after all this time spent alone..

 

[Dogg27]

Yes, I am. Came to the conclusion recently. Reproduction isn't worth it if you have to please and fuck a retarded whore.

 

[Runt171]

Yeah
I dont see the need to force another person into this hell
bringing someone into this shit would just be wrong

other people are just oblivious to how bad things are because they are naive but people like us know how fucked everything is
for us to bring someone into this shit would be a genuinely evil act

We know that the world is rigged and filled with horrible people
Evil is literally everywhere in this shithole

I remember seeing this .org user ItsOver who seamaxxed and out of spite he impregnated a few gooks
I found this kind of funny but when you think deeply into it its fucked up

He has now brought 3 ricecels into the world to suffer when he knows about the blackpill and knows how bad the lives of ricecels are

He was only able to have those children in the first place because he was taking advantage of gook women hating their men and preferring whites since he was incel in his home country

He willingly started the lives of 3 people just so they could suffer
That is genuinely evil

Most normies have lived decent enough lives to where they dont realise how bad things really are so they just end up having kids as something to give their lives meaning
They dont realise the weight of bringing someone into this world

 

[DepravedAndDeprived]

Naw

 

[sennaGTR]

The primary goal of sex is reproduction, but let's be realistic even if you hypothetically ascend why would you want to bring a child into this existence just to repeat the cycle of suffering you experienced ?


So the alternative is to approach sex hedonisticly only to satisfy your physical needs this seems ideal and reasonable however it wouldn't be satisfactory to the level blue-pilled normies and chads , because you're guided by the blackpill you're aware no foid will be physically attracted to you therfore you lack intimacy and obviously you can't buy that nor fake it and the Ego stroke is a huge part of sex as well so in conclusion you left with a sexdoll "metaphorically speaking" so you might as well just fapmaxx. The only solution that i see is to drugmaxx during sex be it if you ascend or when escortmaxxing.

This is all just theories anyway maybe am coping so hard after all this time spent alone..

yes, life is very blackpilled, neurotypicals aren't aware, most intelligent people and abstract thinkers are aware. it's no wonder the best philosophers all more or less agreed that life is suffering. Nietzsche, schopenhauer, they all saw it.

What I do is minimize my suffering as a cope.

I don't let my biological drives and impulses and desires lead me to pain - because that's all that it does really. following my sex drive as an undesirable ugly person = paying for sex, betabuxx, probably divorce rape, pain, etc.

following my sex drive just so I can reproduce and feel better about myself = bringing a soul out of nonexistence, into this world, and watching him grow up in an existence where life is suffering and he's governed by shit genetics and evil billionaires. The sin of fatherhood is more painful than not having a kid

there's more areas of life where I try to minimize my suffering, but these are the main areas. I avoid talking to neurotypicals and trying to "fit in" with their small talk about sports and tiktok shit because it just drains me. One of the worst feelings is being in a room full of people and feeling completely alien and different and isolated. that happens a lot when I try to live like a neurotypical. It's like they have a 6th sense of turning their brain off and enjoying bullshit social interactions that I just don't possess, and i'm kind of envious of it, even though I know I hate doing the shit they do. Makes me feel like an alien. mental suffering.

I spend my time living a relatively simple and stress free life, I work, live minimally, I spend my time reading and diving into abstract concepts, talking with other people online about topics like we are now because that's really the only place I find other people like me. Just waiting to grow old and pass away.

along the way I might pick up a motorcycle, take up some really big projects, I was really into game development and web development in middle school - I've been picking that up again and i'm working on a webapp for my personal use, found that incredibly fulfilling its like the suffering of life goes away and I just disappear into the world of tech and the creative side of things. I'm 100% committed to dying like nikola tesla but without any of the intelligence or success. A tragic life but it's better than the other options i've considered.

 

[Eternalifeofdoom]

Yes, I am. Came to the conclusion recently. Reproduction isn't worth it if you have to please and fuck a retarded whore.

BasED

 

[Dogg27]

Yeah
I dont see the need to force another person into this hell
bringing someone into this shit would just be wrong

other people are just oblivious to how bad things are because they are naive but people like us know how fucked everything is
for us to bring someone into this shit would be a genuinely evil act

We know that the world is rigged and filled with horrible people
Evil is literally everywhere in this shithole

I remember seeing this .org user ItsOver who seamaxxed and out of spite he impregnated a few gooks
I found this kind of funny but when you think deeply into it its fucked up

He has now brought 3 ricecels into the world to suffer when he knows about the blackpill and knows how bad the lives of ricecels are

He was only able to have those children in the first place because he was taking advantage of gook women hating their men and preferring whites since he was incel in his home country

He willingly started the lives of 3 people just so they could suffer
That is genuinely evil

Most normies have lived decent enough lives to where they dont realise how bad things really are so they just end up having kids as something to give their lives meaning
They dont realise the weight of bringing someone into this world

Imagine impregnating some foid and breeding a foid in turn. It's so damn funny, can you imagine a former incel having daughters? That'd be peak hilarious. I could never love a daughter. I'd probably have her aborted. Sons I could endure somewhat (unless they were total chads or simps). But yeah, best not to reproduce at all.

 

[Eternalifeofdoom]

Yeah
I dont see the need to force another person into this hell
bringing someone into this shit would just be wrong

other people are just oblivious to how bad things are because they are naive but people like us know how fucked everything is
for us to bring someone into this shit would be a genuinely evil act

We know that the world is rigged and filled with horrible people
Evil is literally everywhere in this shithole

I remember seeing this .org user ItsOver who seamaxxed and out of spite he impregnated a few gooks
I found this kind of funny but when you think deeply into it its fucked up

He has now brought 3 ricecels into the world to suffer when he knows about the blackpill and knows how bad the lives of ricecels are

He was only able to have those children in the first place because he was taking advantage of gook women hating their men and preferring whites since he was incel in his home country

He willingly started the lives of 3 people just so they could suffer
That is genuinely evil

Most normies have lived decent enough lives to where they dont realise how bad things really are so they just end up having kids as something to give their lives meaning
They dont realise the weight of bringing someone into this world

Very selfish and wicked act from him but it further proves that this world is a dark&cruel place.

 

[Eternalifeofdoom]

yes, life is very blackpilled, neurotypicals aren't aware, most intelligent people and abstract thinkers are aware. it's no wonder the best philosophers all more or less agreed that life is suffering. Nietzsche, schopenhauer, they all saw it.

What I do is minimize my suffering as a cope.

I don't let my biological drives and impulses and desires lead me to pain - because that's all that it does really. following my sex drive as an undesirable ugly person = paying for sex, betabuxx, probably divorce rape, pain, etc.

following my sex drive just so I can reproduce and feel better about myself = bringing a soul out of nonexistence, into this world, and watching him grow up in an existence where life is suffering and he's governed by shit genetics and evil billionaires. The sin of fatherhood is more painful than not having a kid

there's more areas of life where I try to minimize my suffering, but these are the main areas. I avoid talking to neurotypicals and trying to "fit in" with their small talk about sports and tiktok shit because it just drains me. One of the worst feelings is being in a room full of people and feeling completely alien and different and isolated. that happens a lot when I try to live like a neurotypical. It's like they have a 6th sense of turning their brain off and enjoying bullshit social interactions that I just don't possess, and i'm kind of envious of it, even though I know I hate doing the shit they do. Makes me feel like an alien. mental suffering.

I spend my time living a relatively simple and stress free life, I work, live minimally, I spend my time reading and diving into abstract concepts, talking with other people online about topics like we are now because that's really the only place I find other people like me. Just waiting to grow old and pass away.

along the way I might pick up a motorcycle, take up some really big projects, I was really into game development and web development in middle school - I've been picking that up again and i'm working on a webapp for my personal use, found that incredibly fulfilling its like the suffering of life goes away and I just disappear into the world of tech and the creative side of things. I'm 100% committed to dying like nikola tesla but without any of the intelligence or success. A tragic life but it's better than the other options i've considered.

I resonate so much with what you said you basically explained what i go through and feel about this existence. I really can't enjoy small talks and normies pick up on that, tbh i could careless bout being socially fit at this point. You seem like-minded and very based approach to life mate.

 

[PoodankMcGee]

I do agree with the core premise of antinatalism in the reproduction is ethically wrong and that there is more suffering in life than good, and there is no greater meaning that redeemd like or justifies reproduction.

That said i still want to make contraception and abortion illegal so sexhavers suffer and be forced to suffer the consequences of their sexual pleasure

 

[Eternalifeofdoom]

That said i still want to make contraception and abortion illegal so sexhavers suffer and be forced to suffer the consequences of their sexual pleasure

 

[AlexDelarge]

yes of course. I would prefer if i was never born and my son can only have it worse than me