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Are jews White?

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Yeah, for sure.

But in terms of DNA, would they technically be considered "white"?

I recall reading that they were a blend of Middle Eastern, Southern European, and Northern European influences. I'll have to see if I can find that article.
 
ashkenazis jews are white
 
Yeah, for sure.

But in terms of DNA, would they technically be considered "white"?

I recall reading that they were a blend of Middle Eastern, Southern European, and Northern European influences. I'll have to see if I can find that article.
They plot in between South Euros(slightly drifted from the main Euro cluster) and Levantines
 
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I recall reading that they were a blend of Middle Eastern, Southern European, and Northern European influences. I'll have to see if I can find that article.
I think Ashkenazim are more like half Levantine on average but the proportion will differ depending on the model.

We fixed the ancestry proportions to the ones inferred above for AJ (50% ME, 34% Southern EU, 8% Western EU, and 8% Eastern EU)

The results show that since the Bronze Age, an additional East-African-related component was added to the region (on average ∼10.6%, excluding Ethiopian Jews who harbor ∼80% East African component), as well as a European-related component (on average ∼8.7%, excluding Ashkenazi Jews who harbor a ∼41% European-related component).
 
I mean, I would define White as "belonging to the people of Europe, to the civilization they built, to its habits of order, discipline, and achievement." By that definition, Jews are not White. Genetically, Ashkenazi Jews in particular are a mix of Levantine ancestry with some Southern and Eastern European admixture, but they remain distinct from Europeans. When you look at population genetics, they consistently cluster together and apart from Whites. That is why they are treated as their own ethnoreligious group with roots in the Middle East, not just another type of European.

And importantly, Jews themselves rarely consider themselves White except when it is useful. They call themselves Jewish first, and only adopt Whiteness conditionally, depending on the context. Here is something a Jew wrote about this exact question:

If it's time to criticize me and my people due to our 'power and control over the world,' I'm white.
If it's time to consider me subhuman, I'm brown.
If it's But Palestine O'Clock, I'm practically Aryan.
I put 'two or more races' on forms if that matters.
So what is 'white' anyway? If it's what I consider myself, no. If it's what other white people consider me, it's contextual but usually no. If I'm responsible for [insert evil] then yes, unless that evil is killing Jesus in which case no.
I involuntarily play jump-rope with 'whiteness' I guess.
 
More than anything, they make for good soap
 
What does this graph measure exactly?
it's PCA charts which compare the distances of populations to one another based on their ancestral populations
 
it's PCA charts which compare the distances of populations to one another based on their ancestral populations
Thank you for informing
 
Whiter than me
 
Anyone with light skin can be white but Jews are not indo European.

Also Fins and Estonians are white but are not indo European
 
They're the only true white people
 
They are the masters of the white people and the destroyers of the white race.

When another advanced civilization from space examines these periods, they will be shocked to see how white people, who have had a major share in the world's progress, were destroyed by a small group of non-whites, and this will be a matter of great debate among the inhabitants of that advanced civilization.
 
Ashkenazi's are half White/Half middle eastern. All other jews are pure middle eastern though.
 
I mean, I would define White as "belonging to the people of Europe, to the civilization they built, to its habits of order, discipline, and achievement." By that definition, Jews are not White. Genetically, Ashkenazi Jews in particular are a mix of Levantine ancestry with some Southern and Eastern European admixture, but they remain distinct from Europeans. When you look at population genetics, they consistently cluster together and apart from Whites. That is why they are treated as their own ethnoreligious group with roots in the Middle East, not just another type of European.

And importantly, Jews themselves rarely consider themselves White except when it is useful. They call themselves Jewish first, and only adopt Whiteness conditionally, depending on the context. Here is something a Jew wrote about this exact question:
 

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