Theory Are all men who give advice to incels incels themselves?

[NonNTsubhuman]

Not talking about people who profit from it like redpillers and youtubers who sell courses or supplement or whatever the fuck it is. They give advice because it gets them money. Them being incel or not is another question.

I wanna dive into the psyche of the men who claim to give advice about dating for apparently no reason. The nobodys who goes out of their way to talk to losers and incels online.

The men who go on different forums, reddit, discord etc to "help"

They often have a story of how they were socially awkward and ugly and they started doing x/y "gym, shower" you all know the cope.
And suddenly they had a normal romantic life with loads of sex and so on.

First of all, talking for myself and asking you boyos in here.
If I were ever to acsend and get a healthy romantic relationship with a woman, id be pleased with life and probably pursue my passions that was locked away because of deep depression. I was a great painter when I was a kid and would probably start doing stuff like that. Traveling. So much stuff ive missed out on.

What I would not do is go online and start talking to other losers on how to "get a girl, gym, just be a man etc.
Id be busy living.

My theory is that these men are incels just like us. They started self improvement, gym, social activities etc. And that became their life and cope.
They never got the price or reward for all the effort thou, they might have friends who got gf's and they might get some female friends and they start to believe they are winners and so close to what they want.
They are losers but living in a really distorted reality where they cant feel self defeat and cant admit to being a loser.
To distance themselves from their true identity they latch on to their fake chad identity and start giving advice to losers online to feel superior to who they really are.
Then they give advice to get the feeling of being a chad and successful.

This is probably all subcouncious and they have no idea what they are doing. In their mind they are successful individuals who over came their insecuritys.

The giving advice part then becomes part of the cope, they feel superior and they even get angry at other losers online for not "following their advice".
They rage at them, you see this on reddit where they are "helpful" and when someone says something real and blackpilled they become furious and starts name calling and insulting them.
This is likely projection, they dont wanna see themselves as losers and when someone speaks the truth they cant take it because they are addicts to their fake persona and the feeling of superiority it gives them.

Guys like this are often 24/7 online like us real nolife losers so that speaks for my Theory being real. You look at these accounts and they often have thousands of posts.

Long post,
TLDR:
If u ever acsended and ended up in a healthy relationship. Would you spend your time online to give advice to other inkwells?

I certainly would not.

 

[LesscoBlob]

If u ever acsended and ended up in a healthy relationship. Would you spend your time online to give advice to other inkwells?

Absolutely not. I would never associate myself with the incel community if I stopped being an incel out of respect to incels.

 

[Evil]

Nah, no way. Normies who somehow cross paths with an incel online and give them advice are giving advice from their normie POV. Their advice is always inapplicable to us. Incels rarely chime in to give advice to normies, because our real sperg advice is just going to be down voted/reported into deletion.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

I think there is a lot of different people in the group of "incel helpers". There are those copers who are loser themselves, guys who did something right and think they invented the wheel and decided to help others, those who do it for attention (narcissistic empathy), those who empathize with us and are genuinely trying to help.

 

[NonNTsubhuman]

I think there is a lot of different people in the group of "incel helpers". There are those copers who are loser themselves, guys who did something right and think they invented the wheel and decided to help others, those who do it for attention (narcissistic empathy), those who empathize with us and are genuinely trying to help.

I know there are many different reasons as u said.
I was more focused on the guys that really go out of their way to "help".
They are super annoying an persistent just like us inkwells

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

The clear majority definitely seem to be, as seems to be the case with people obsessed with us in general as well.

Absolutely not. I would never associate myself with the incel community if I stopped being an incel out of respect to incels.

I think there is a lot of different people in the group of "incel helpers". There are those copers who are loser themselves, guys who did something right and think they invented the wheel and decided to help others, those who do it for attention (narcissistic empathy), those who empathize with us and are genuinely trying to help.

 

[der_komische]

the only people i would take advice from are ugly autistic losers who somehow made it.

 

[JudeoBiden]

PUAs are incels, yes. The reputational cost of becoming a PUA coach is so immense that only an incel seeking to grift other incels in order to statusmax and moneymax his way out of inceldom would do it. All the OG PUAs were incels:

• Ross Jeffries was a jewcel
• Mystery was an autismcel
• Neil Strauss was a manlet bald jewcel

Hilariously, old PUA lore had a black pill moment, but they were so sold on it being about game and not looks, they were stumped by it:

So I met the Grand Master tonight. For the first time we had a real
conversation ... and went PU as wingmen. Shit, I did'nt hear his
openings. He first engages those two UGs. As per already reported, he
does plenty of dirty jokes. He does'nt give a fuck.

"I'm worried cause I'm going to the Hospital tomorrow. (Really?
Why?) I'm gonna have surgery (Err ... what's wrong?) Well ...
mine's too long [gesture] and I have to have it cut down
LOTFL!!!"

[putting his arms around both of them] "So what's it like to be with
such a beautiful bloke tonite? LOL!"

Stuff like that for like, 20 minutes.

http://www.pickupguide.com/gm.htm

 

[Gendocel]

Yep.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

PUAs are incels, yes. The reputational cost of becoming a PUA coach is so immense that only an incel seeking to grift other incels in order to statusmax and moneymax his way out of inceldom would do it. All the OG PUAs were incels:

• Ross Jeffries was a jewcel
• Mystery was an autismcel
• Neil Strauss was a manlet bald jewcel

Hilariously, old PUA lore had a black pill moment, but they were so sold on it being about game and not looks, they were stumped by it:

http://www.pickupguide.com/gm.htm

Fuck that Neil Strauss and his bullshit book The Game. I remember reading it as a teenager and him telling how him, a balding manlet, was stealing girlfriends from chads and jocks through game. It's supposed to be based on his experiences but it's way too much bullshit to believe.

PUA had some value and helped give rise to the manosphere, but like you said, they went too far in the wrong direction.

The part of the book you posted is so retarded that if it worked you'd know the girl is into the guy because of looks alone. It defeats their own dogma.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

I know there are many different reasons as u said.
I was more focused on the guys that really go out of their way to "help".
They are super annoying an persistent just like us inkwells

ahh, I see. Yeah, guys that go out of their way to help us have no way to get out of, so it's not like they have other things to do, lol.

 

[NonNTsubhuman]

PUAs are incels, yes. The reputational cost of becoming a PUA coach is so immense that only an incel seeking to grift other incels in order to statusmax and moneymax his way out of inceldom would do it. All the OG PUAs were incels:

• Ross Jeffries was a jewcel
• Mystery was an autismcel
• Neil Strauss was a manlet bald jewcel

Hilariously, old PUA lore had a black pill moment, but they were so sold on it being about game and not looks, they were stumped by it:

http://www.pickupguide.com/gm.htm

"Grandmaster"? wtf does this mean? Ug's ?!?!?
They even have their own incel lingo I guess

 

[JudeoBiden]

Fuck that Neil Strauss and his bullshit book The Game. I remember reading it as a teenager and him telling how him, a balding manlet, was stealing girlfriends from chads and jocks through game. It's supposed to be based on his experiences but it's way too much bullshit to believe.

As far as I can tell, Neil Strauss never demonstrated any PUA ability, ever. He just collected stories and wrote the book.

 

[NonNTsubhuman]

Fuck that Neil Strauss and his bullshit book The Game. I remember reading it as a teenager and him telling how him, a balding manlet, was stealing girlfriends from chads and jocks through game. It's supposed to be based on his experiences but it's way too much bullshit to believe.

PUA had some value and helped give rise to the manosphere, but like you said, they went too far in the wrong direction.

The part of the book you posted is so retarded that if it worked you'd know the girl is into the guy because of looks alone. It defeats their own dogma.

I read that book when I was like 18 in school, I didnt even think it was supposed to be a real story. I thought it was fictional since it was so fkn unbelievable and ridiculous. I found out later in my 20's about the PUA movement and found out that book was supposed to be his real life story

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

I read that book when I was like 18 in school, I didnt even think it was supposed to be a real story. I thought it was fictional since it was so fkn unbelievable and ridiculous. I found out later in my 20's about the PUA movement and found out that book was supposed to be his real life story

It's amazing how people fell for that. I believe it's because the effects of feminism and hypergamy were already starting in the 2000s. Men were desperate (and clueless) at the time, so this content offered hope.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

As far as I can tell, Neil Strauss never demonstrated any PUA ability, ever. He just collected stories and wrote the book.

He participated with his PUA friends, namely Mystery. The book is autobiographical.

 

[Rotter]

the only people i would take advice from are ugly autistic losers who somehow made it.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

they behave exactly like the average normie male, who gets one bit of female attention ONCE and immediately retcons his past 10 years as being successful and winning, enough to give advice to others

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

and so many men are in shitty relationships now where the woman randomly goes "on break" and leaves him to fuck other men for a while, using him like a cuckslave in the most obvious way

those men probably also feel entitled to give dating advice

 

[JudeoBiden]

He participated with his PUA friends, namely Mystery. The book is autobiographical.

He investigated himself and found evidence of PUA activity?

the only people i would take advice from are ugly autistic losers who somehow made it.

Yes. Good-looking people's dating advice is like basketball advice from Shaq. I want basketball advice from a 5'5 guy, not a 7'0 guy.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

He investigated himself and found evidence of PUA activity?

What? No, he was one of the PUAs. He was Styles and he was trained by Mystery. Autobiography means he wrote it about himself.

 

[JudeoBiden]

What? No, he was one of the PUAs. He was Styles and he was trained by Mystery. Autobiography means he wrote it about himself.

How is that any different from "he is one because he said so?" He's a soyboy manlet jewcel. There is no evidence of him ever approaching, ever. Mystery is a joke. All flash, he's nothing without a camera and crowd social proofing him. There was infield phone camera footage in a club of him gaming alone without a camera crew, he bombed hard. The levels of fake and gay in the PUA scene are off the charts.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

How is that any different from "he is one because he said so?" He's a soyboy manlet jewcel. There is no evidence of him ever approaching, ever. Mystery is a joke. All flash, he's nothing without a camera and crowd social proofing him. There was infield phone camera footage in a club of him gaming alone without a camera crew, he bombed hard. The levels of fake and gay in the PUA scene are off the charts.

It's not different and I agree completely with you. There is no evidence whatsoever of their success or anything they say. All we have are their bullshit books. I thought you meant that Neil Strauss was an investigative journalist that went after PUAs. In the book he wasn't one, he's just "self-improving".

Of course, that book and all PUA shit that came after was a scam.