Anyone here watched Higurashi

[subhumanmonkey]

I don’t have anyone to talk about this masterpiece with

 

[Aspiring Janitor]

Visual novel is superior you fucking normie

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

I watched the original series like 20 years ago. I liked Shion.

I never got around to watching the sequel(?) that came out a few years ago.

I even don't think I understood the plot, I just liked the arc where Shion went yandere and started killing everyone.

 

[nazianime]

Yes, I regret watching

• Higurashi: When They Cry – Gou (2020)
• Higurashi: When They Cry – Sotsu (2021)

They are hot garbage and proof of modern anime’s lack of quality writing. They went from unsettling atmosphere horror to lesbians bickering fag shit.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/wThbESUVEqU


The original series were peak though.

 

[subhumanmonkey]

Visual novel is superior you fucking normie

I do play VNS but the only good ones are DDLC, muv luv and subahibi before normies found out about it. Anime unfortunately is the superior way of consooming media

 

[subhumanmonkey]

I watched the original series like 20 years ago. I liked Shion.

I never got around to watching the sequel(?) that came out a few years ago.

I even don't think I understood the plot, I just liked the arc where Shion went yandere and started killing everyone.

Yes, I regret watching

• Higurashi: When They Cry – Gou (2020)
• Higurashi: When They Cry – Sotsu (2021)

They are hot garbage and proof of modern anime’s lack of quality writing. They went from unsettling atmosphere horror to lesbians bickering fag shit.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/wThbESUVEqU


The original series were peak though.

Yeah the new series is complete garbage cause its not canon its just a way for anime studios to try and milk some money from a series that ended almost two decades ago. The original anime is peak

 

[Sportacus]

Visual novel is superior you fucking normie

 

[Lonelyus]

I was going to but i dont have enough attention span

If anyone can tell me how to tame my ADHD then i may be able to watch

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Yes. A great series with one of the worst and lamest concepts ever used to handwave any psychological complexity and moral greyness of the characters (the Hinamizawa Syndrome). Ryukishi wanted a dark story where people routinely get killed by those close to them, but he also wanted the lolis in it to be not just fappable but also morally pure, so he just came up with the dumbest excuse for their behaviour imaginable ("She didn't want to do it, she was just under the influence of an interdimensional* plague causing aggression and violent behaviour that is only found in this one specific village in the world. )

*It's been confirmed to have come from Hanyuu's home dimension when she and her people left it.

I even don't think I understood the plot, I just liked the arc where Shion went yandere and started killing everyone.

The really wild thing about early Higurashi is that both Keiichi and Shion, in their respective "Go wild and start killing," arcs, had perfectly rational and justifiable reasons to do so based on what was happening to them and the information they had at hand. Which just makes the "Hinamizawa Syndrome" even more of an annoying cop-out, and it's almost funny how gaslighting those arcs are when you take them at face value.

For Keiichi, it's: "Yes, you've moved into a village which outsiders were prohibited to move into just years ago, and yes, there are ritualized murders that regularly happen there to the point of everyone expecting them, but there's absolutely no way you have a target on your back. Don't pay attention to what you are noticing and how people are acting, that's just a super-special paranoia illness that only exists in this one village working its magic on your brain. Don't trust your instincts and don't believe your eyes and ears. Trust the girl who went on a violent rampage at a school when her family briefly moved out of this village and who has been stalking you even in your own home, and the heiress of the Yakuza-adjacent family that controls the town and in addition to being obvious suspects for the annual murders have also been the ones enforcing the ´No outsiders´ rule for generations, they are obviously your friends and clearly want the best for you."

For Shion, it's: "Yes, your family is shady as fuck and basically Yakuza, yes, they've treated you like shit your entire life and yes, they have no problem with torture as you yourself have experienced and it just so happens that not only do they control the village and it only ever happens to be their opponents and other people who they'd like dead who ever die in the annual murders, but trust me, they aren't behind any of that. You might think they are behind your boyfriend's death just because he was a member of one of the families they hated and it just so happens that his parents also mysteriously died and the only remaining member of that family is a girl that just so happens to be best friends with a member of one of your family's allies, but trust me, your family and the other Three Great Families have nothing to do with any of that or the other murders in the village they control. Hell, they actually had no problem with you even being in a relationship with this boy whose family was the main target of a hate campaign by your family, they are simply nothing like you think they are, you are just sick and need help. Don't pay attention to the weapons, don't pay attention to the torture dungeon, that's all in the past and you are just paranoid because of a brain-affecting disease that causes paranoia and that exists only in this one single village. Ignore all the links you think are there. Just trust your family, they are obviously good and want the best for you."

Ryukishi could've made a decent game about realistic paranoia and tragic events happening because of what people assume of each other due to secrets, insufficient communication and real, actual reasons to assume the worst of other people. Instead, he wanted his characters to be morally unblemished no matter what, so he came up with a painfully lame excuse for what they've done any time they went psycho.

Man, I really need to make a vent thread about this.

 

[subhumanmonkey]

Yes. A great series with one of the worst and lamest concepts ever used to handwave any psychological complexity and moral greyness of the characters (the Hinamizawa Syndrome). Ryukishi wanted a dark story where people routinely get killed by those close to them, but he also wanted the lolis in it to be not just fappable but also morally pure, so he just came up with the dumbest excuse for their behaviour imaginable ("She didn't want to do it, she was just under the influence of an interdimensional* plague causing aggression and violent behaviour that is only found in this one specific village in the world. )

*It's been confirmed to have come from Hanyuu's home dimension when she and her people left it.


The really wild thing about early Higurashi is that both Keiichi and Shion, in their respective "Go wild and start killing," arcs, had perfectly rational and justifiable reasons to do so based on what was happening to them and the information they had at hand. Which just makes the "Hinamizawa Syndrome" even more of an annoying cop-out, and it's almost funny how gaslighting those arcs are when you take them at face value.

For Keiichi, it's: "Yes, you've moved into a village which outsiders were prohibited to move into just years ago, and yes, there are ritualized murders that regularly happen there to the point of everyone expecting them, but there's absolutely no way you have a target on your back. Don't pay attention to what you are noticing and how people are acting, that's just a super-special paranoia illness that only exists in this one village working its magic on your brain. Don't trust your instincts and don't believe your eyes and ears. Trust the girl who went on a violent rampage at a school when her family briefly moved out of this village and who has been stalking you even in your own home, and the heiress of the Yakuza-adjacent family that controls the town and in addition to being obvious suspects for the annual murders have also been the ones enforcing the ´No outsiders´ rule for generations, they are obviously your friends and clearly want the best for you."

For Shion, it's: "Yes, your family is shady as fuck and basically Yakuza, yes, they've treated you like shit your entire life and yes, they have no problem with torture as you yourself have experienced and it just so happens that not only do they control the village and it only ever happens to be their opponents and other people who they'd like dead who ever die in the annual murders, but trust me, they aren't behind any of that. You might think they are behind your boyfriend's death just because he was a member of one of the families they hated and it just so happens that his parents also mysteriously died and the only remaining member of that family is a girl that just so happens to be best friends with a member of one of your family's allies, but trust me, your family and the other Three Great Families have nothing to do with any of that or the other murders in the village they control. Hell, they actually had no problem with you even being in a relationship with this boy whose family was the main target of a hate campaign by your family, they are simply nothing like you think they are, you are just sick and need help. Don't pay attention to the weapons, don't pay attention to the torture dungeon, that's all in the past and you are just paranoid because of a brain-affecting disease that causes paranoia and that exists only in this one single village. Ignore all the links you think are there. Just trust your family, they are obviously good and want the best for you."

Ryukishi could've made a decent game about realistic paranoia and tragic events happening because of what people assume of each other due to secrets, insufficient communication and real, actual reasons to assume the worst of other people. Instead, he wanted his characters to be morally unblemished no matter what, so he came up with a painfully lame excuse for what they've done any time they went psycho.

Man, I really need to make a vent thread about this.

Yeah it was perfect until they introduced the whole Hinamizawa syndrome. He created something which obviously needed flawed characters but he didn’t want them to be flawed and took all responsibility from them.

 

[Karlicel]

I don’t have anyone to talk about this masterpiece with

nope

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Yeah it was perfect until they introduced the whole Hinamizawa syndrome. He created something which obviously needed flawed characters but he didn’t want them to be flawed and took all responsibility from them.

Yup. It doesn't even fit into the story very well. The reincarnations and Hanyuu should've been the only supernatural elements there, since they already fit the overall occult, backwards, religious horror aesthetic of Hinamizawa and the murders going on. I remember from some movie critic's video on the importance of not meshing concepts that don't fit each other together without a very good explanation at least, and this series really fails there, since nothing about its other parts indicates that a mind-affecting disease that only exists in the village is at play there.

Or that there's a conspiracy by shadowy government and financial interests to use said disease for their own ends. People rightfully shit on the new series' for the Dragon Ball-style fights and so on, but frankly, the series has went off the rails a lot sooner. The original series ended with middle schoolers fighting a conspiracy by what may as well be a supervillain group planning to turn Japan into a superpower and possibly even dominate the world.