I am already convinced that the god of the Old Testament is saturn, but I’d like to become more educated on this topic. So, any books that talk about Saturn and Yahweh?
Edomite Yahweh is the second god in the Bible.
El Shaddai the first,10 min driving from Qabala.
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Werent they eventually fused and worshipped as one tho
Either during or soon after the Babylonian exile the Jews changed the name of god because the first one wasn’t working for them some scholars speculate.
I thought saturn was a roman god. And Yaweh was an ancient canaanite god.
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I thought Saturn had to do with Satanism?
Didn't people used to make human sacrifices revolving around this concept?
Didn't people used to make human sacrifices revolving around this concept?
In the Jewish theosophy known as cabbalism, Saturn is the third sphere of divine activity, called Binah - Understanding or Intelligence.
This is the power which organises the creative forces and imposes form on the universe. It is thus the root of matter. It is also the female principle, for it is through conception and birth that we acquire material form.
Saturn and Jupiter in Babylonian times were called ‘the Great Twins’, Jupiter being associated with the colour white, and Saturn with black.
The former was a god of light, peacemaking, compassion and order. The Romans identified this Jovian god with Jesus. Saturn on the other hand was god of law and boundaries, a judge; these enforced by violent bouts of fire and lightning.
Academic Mircea Eliade says the Hebrew Yahweh “displayed his power by means of storms; thunder is his voice and lightning is called Yahweh’s ‘fire,’ or his ‘arrows.’” The fire and brimstone of Yahweh is indeed a lightning aspect.
The Hebrew term baraq, “lightning,” used in the sense of “flashing arrow-head.” Attributed to the anger of YHWH. Similarly the “sword of God” corresponds to flashing lightning.
Origen says that the Ophite demiurge had the face of a lion and was connected with Saturn, and this has led some scholars to conclude that Jaldabaoth was a combination of Baal and Kronos. John of Damascus says that the Phoenicians held Kronos to be a kind of demiurge, and because Saturday was the day of Yahweh and the day of Saturn, the two were welded together. Given the syncretism that plagued Israel throughout much of her history, it’s not surprising that the result could be Ophite or gnostic.
“And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of El Shaddai, but by my name Yahweh was I not known to them.”
Exodus 6:3
Shadad means to destroy/to overpower, giving El Shaddai a meaning of destroyer, one of the many aspects of God. El shaddai is also known as god of natural disasters, god of the mountaintops, god of the storm. This name was also used in volcano stories
Scholars believe El shaddai means mountain god
El shaddai, The Thunderer, The Powerful, The Unchangeable, Invincible One, is one of the Judaic names of God, with its etymology coming from the influence of the Ugaritic religion upon modern Judaism. The word Shaddai, derived from the Phoenician root ShD. Shaddai was one of the many gods in Canaanite religion. El Shaddai is conventionally translated as God Almighty.
While the translation of El as "God" or "Saturn" in Ugarit or Canaanite language is straight-forward, the literal meaning of Shaddai is the subject of debate.
In Canaanite texts the gods are often collectively called the Saddayim, which might be interpreted as "The Almighty Ones." However, the interpretation of Shaddai as "Almighty" has in itself been questioned, some scholars concluding that it might refer to mountains. Teubal, among others, believes it should be translated as "breasts," the Hebrew word for a woman's breast being, Shad.
Thus literal translations of El Shaddai may be "God of the Breast" or "The Breasted God." El Shaddai also means "Sustainer" or "Provider," like a mother nursing an infant.
Like the Canaanites, the ancient Hebrew's were polytheistic but gradually switched from polytheism to monotheism, adopting the belief in a single god, Yahweh, Their ancestors had worshipped "other gods" than Yahweh, Who were these gods? Biblical scholars have long noted that the god of the Hebrews had several names and epithets. The earliest were Shaddai (the mountain god or the god with breasts), Elyon (the lofty god) and El (the mighty father god known as Saturn).
Shaddai was the chief god of the Hebrew patriarchs. El Shaddai was an Amorite or Canaanite storm god, an epithet of the Canaanite father god El or an epithet of the Amorite El in his role as divine warrior, identified early by the Hebrew patriarchs with the Canaanite god El. Admittedly the primitive meaning of Shaddai is obviously "breast." The Hebrew word Shad (plural Shaddayim) means "breast".
Scholars believe that El Shaddai was a relic of an ancient Canaanite goddess who had been transformed into a male god.
“And Jacob said to Joseph, "El Shaddai appeared to me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and he blessed me and said to me,,, ‘I will make you fertile’ and numerous, And Shaddai who blesses you,,, blessings of the breast and the womb.” Genesis 48:3-4, 49:25
This would make Abraham's god the god of the breasts, or a hermaphroditic deity, a male god who had, incorporated female characteristics.
This is not uncommon among fertility religions, Dionysus is among the various gods of this sort who had feminine qualities, None the less, El Shaddai is a feminine noun, this is the Hebrew equivalent of "Mother Nature". Greek Translators suppressed the feminine translation of Shaddai to maintain an image of male strength.
Author Bob madison in his book titled “Now and Then" States, Enli's youngest son Adad, his name was ISH.KUR (and his "cult animal" was the bull,) which meant “the of the mountain-land." The Sumerian ISH was rendered Shaddu in Akkadian: so that Il Shaddu became the biblical El Shaddai, Scholars speak of Adad, whom the Hittites called Teshub as a "storm god," always depicted with a lightening thundering, and wind blowing, and thus the god of rains.
There can be little doubt that this old Babylonian title is the origin of the enigmatical Hebrew Shaddai.
While Dimmé, means “Creator.” Dimmé Saturn simply translates to “Creator of the mountains.”
The sumerians thought that the sun rose and set between a twin-mountain, the mountain of the East and West, which day by day guarded its rising and setting. Twin Mountains solidly links this with Teubal' s "breasts" translation, Understanding, Mother Earths Breast's was a metaphor for Twin Mountains.
El Shaddai was identical with the Il,i.e. El,Shaddé of the Semitic Assyrians: the Dimmé Satum and ISH.KUR of the ancient Sumerians: the Il Shaddu of the Akkadians: and the El-Elyon, or highest god of Melchizedek.
All the references to Abraham's God are in the form of El, such as El Shaddai, God of the Mountain sometimes also referred to as the Almighty in the heavens suggesting an astral deity. If it was Moses who gave the Israelites their God Yahweh, this god Yahweh, was fused or synchronized with the gods, El, and Shaddai.
You can find more info on how Yahweh is saturn easily on YouTube
Saturn is also linked to satan/Ba’al, not just to Yahweh
So Yahweh is linked to Saturn who is linked to Ba’al/Satan
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Yea you can see all throughout the Old Testament the peoples of god did animal sacrifice and even one time in genesis Saturn told Abraham to sacrifice his son to him but an angel/(archon?) of god stopped him from doing so
Also Cain sacrificed Abel to god in genesis too, and god gave Cain protection that would harm anyone who harmed Cain seven fold for this sacrifice he gave to god
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Do you believe that Satan and God are the same being?
Also interesting that you say that because Cain sacrificing his own brother could have been a test in and of itself to show that Cain is more devoted to God then Abel.
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I'd stick to the Bible actually ,I would say or write Adonai or Hashem ,he also has a Son and he died for you on a stake 2000 years ago
Another cel who knows
I am open to the thought of it, but I’ll need to dive deeper into the saturn rabbit hole to find out
I heard Satan is the most intelligent/loyal angel/archon of god/saturn/the demiurge
Why are your wasting time on theosophy? Theosophy and Madam blavastky are full of sh*t. Its all rubbish. Nothing to it at all.
Yes or atleast Satan is an angel/archon of God
Yes sacrificing a human to a god is just to test your faith bhaiAlso interesting that you say that because Cain sacrificing his own brother could have been a test in and of itself to show that Cain is more devoted to God then Abel.
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When did I say I agree with madam blavatsky? Saturn is evil, Yahweh is evil.
blavatsky (and theosophy) is shit
Blavatsky was apart of the new age movement, she’s complete bullshit
Better to read up james randi than this.
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Will Saturn die for your sins and give you life that lasts forever
They are.
Yahweh started out as a small tribal war god. The ancient jews conquered and genocided their neighbors. Replacing their faith with Yahweh.
Later Yahwehs war aspect would be merged with Baal. Creating the fundament for the holy father/God/Abrahams deity.
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Wrong ,the Canaanite God was El or Il in Arabic who was married to Asherah and Baal simply means master or lord so Baal is really any god.There is no evidence of YHVH before the Torah in the 14th century BCE
Cant you the internet? Wikipedia, Ai, google scholar or something?
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The worship of YHVH goes back to Abraham who dates to 1800 bce ,yes I have seen the info you posted before but it does not prove that YHVH was ever part of a pagan pantheon.It may show that people other than Jews worshiped the one and true God
It's simple, at some point in history semite people in general (including their cousins like phoenicians) got really prosperous and powerful and started venerating a very evil bvll god (and his wife) and doing baddy bad practices like roasting their own toddlers to get even more fertility and power.
Then the downfall started and priests decided to disown that glorious past and rewrite history with the old testament and YHVH. Creating the cope that jewish fall was due to sin and disobeying the real God, when it was actually due to socio/economic/politic factors.
Old testament is full of allusions to human sacrifice (offering to Moloch) but they never say it directly because they were ashamed of it.
Even when Jesus warns about Gehenna he is not talking about 'Hell' or some shit lol but rather the burning of innocents.
The key that proves all this Baal stuff is Carthage, which was founded by Phoenicians. An extremely powerful semitic civilization that seriously threatened Rome and resisted until 150 B.C. (almost till Jesus times!!). Of course, they were satanic as fuck. They never fell like their cousins and thus never had to cope. They had holdings even here in Italy and among the other things, archeologists dugged up lots of cremation urns...
Then the downfall started and priests decided to disown that glorious past and rewrite history with the old testament and YHVH. Creating the cope that jewish fall was due to sin and disobeying the real God, when it was actually due to socio/economic/politic factors.
Old testament is full of allusions to human sacrifice (offering to Moloch) but they never say it directly because they were ashamed of it.
Even when Jesus warns about Gehenna he is not talking about 'Hell' or some shit lol but rather the burning of innocents.
The key that proves all this Baal stuff is Carthage, which was founded by Phoenicians. An extremely powerful semitic civilization that seriously threatened Rome and resisted until 150 B.C. (almost till Jesus times!!). Of course, they were satanic as fuck. They never fell like their cousins and thus never had to cope. They had holdings even here in Italy and among the other things, archeologists dugged up lots of cremation urns...
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Did I say saturn was Jesus? Saturn is Yahweh. By the way I forgot to mention, I believe in the words of Jesus but that doesnt change the fact that Yahweh is closely linked to saturn
Yahovah? Yah translates to god and hovah translates to destruction… YHVH is the god of destruction?
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Wrong ,lets start here יהוה , ,then this הוֹוֶה howah or hovah means present tense or to be ,so puting the two words together means the letter Yod begining a word in Biblical Hebrew means he will ,YHWH ,He who caused to be!Yahovah? Yah translates to god and hovah translates to destruction… YHVH is the god of destruction?
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I know you did not say Saturn was Jesus ,I was just pointing out that Jesus saved you if you are willing to believe ,do not go to judgement day without Jesus.Next grammar lesson ,Jesus is Greek for Yeshua which come from the word shua which means to cry out in desperation.So Yeshua means "will rescue or will save or salvation"
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1. I know Jesus was crucified on the cross but that may just be symbolism for how Jesus said he fulfilled the law Matthew 5:17-20 and how Jesus freed us from the law of sin and death(Law of the old testament) Romans 8:2
a cube unfolds into a cross, Jesus freed us from Saturn's(Yahweh's) law
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You sound Gnostic?
Nah, gnosticism poses many questions and problems + the freemasons are gnostics anyways, I’m not tryna be like them
you have to be tier two retard if you believe in that nonsense
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Good ,because although we saved saved by faith and grace only,without the Torah we would not have known what sin was and if the law had no validity then Jesus died for nothing. The trinity is important
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God Bless and hope your theological studies will bring you to the Gospel!
God bless you too and I already believe in the Gospel but I do hope to become more educated on it
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Keep reading the scriptures and find a good church in your area.And remember that thinking that the Father of the Trinity is Saturn is part of the Gnostic heresy and is pagan! I wish you the best success !
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The evil creator, if you can find it….
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