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I'm referring to this video first:
Things that stand out:
1. believes in romance and love like it comes from the TV and books
2. constantly angry
3. still has hope
I think every single one of those points is fatally bad for attracting a woman. I assume (I have zero experience though) that experienced women find it pathetic when a man looks for romance because she already knows that this isn't how it works at all. You just have sex and you get something you want, like financial support and over time you get to like that person.
"Love" really doesnt exist unless you count delusional elated feelings in the beginning that you finally found your perfect person, which of course is never true. It's just another human being who wants a good deal.
Secondly, being angry is something I actually tried to use to my advantage but it failed miserably. I could never get angry enough to change my life for the better. It seems that it's the same for him. Anger is a motivator is worthless, that is my conclusion.
Thirdly, having hope isn't necessarily bad but having hope in magically finding somebody is. You have to change, completely perhaps. Become a completely different person, force yourself to be act nice, force yourself to believe something totally different. I dont know, whatever it takes I suppose.
Let's watch another video:
Once again a man who simply cannot find a woman.
But wait, BOTH people look fine to me. In fact, more than fine. The dude could be a chad if he worked out like crazy, he has a good face. I'm serious, his facial symmetry etc. could make him into a chad.
The first older man also looks very good. I mean he is on the UPPER end of attractiveness for his age as far as I can tell.
So clearly the failure is mental. I repeat: The failure for these two men is mental. I'm specifically not talking about you forum people because no doubt, you will immediately lash out at me and say that your face is just too ugly and you specifically are just born too ugly.
I notice something else with this video that is similar to myself: A big obsession about analyzing the world and understanding the truth. He is overanalyzing instead of trying to find a solution. He literally said: "Improving yourself isn't going to do shit"
He is making excuses, he looks at others to excuse his own inaction. "oh an asshole can get a great girl, so I should easily get one". Boom, he just knocked himself out in the first round and it's painful for me because I did that to myself too. The second that I had a good job, I thought: I should be getting a great wife right now. There is nothing wrong with me.
Except I didnt understand that this is not how life works, it doesnt matter how much money or looks you have if you dont view women as another goal to attain instead of something that should just happen.
He says that he is trying to be real and honest but is it honest to say that because assholes get women, he should get one too? Is that truly logic? He isn't going to fix his problem like that.
I did the exact same thing, I thought that I was being LOGICAL by being sad about my situation. Look, you cant approach the situation like that. What would also be honest is to change yourself and be happy anyway because some kids die of cancer at age 8. So you should be super happy every single day. That's honest too. That's the truth too.
So I believe that we incels make a major logical mistake: We use partial logic to make full conclusions, which we then keep using to make more conclusions.
His only main point on why improving himself wont work is because assholes get women too. We are too weak, we cannot allow ourselves to think in such short, simplified ways. Okay, improving yourself isn't necessary sometimes, yet clearly it helps.
This is my point: I think the incels in these videos have shown that they accepted faulty partial logic to give up.
I did the exact same thing in my own life with acne. I had acne until age 23. You know what I did? I never even THOUGHT for one second that I could get a woman while I still have acne. I completely shut off my brain to that possibility. Later I learned.. holy shit, I could have fixed it. It's not necessarily 100% genetic, if you stop eating ANY sugar, ANY fruit, ANY milk, ANY bread.. you could have fixed it. I could have fixed my acne and begun thinking about how to get women at 14 instead of 23.
I took myself out of the game before it even started, all because I was a retard who just instantly believed some dude called my father who mentioned offhand that acne is genetic and it will go away on its own anyway, so dont worry.
Let's look at another (presumably) incel:
He isn't that bad looking, millions of people who look like him probably have women. He looks just fine to me.
He is also angry that he is being gaslighted, which is the same for me.
We are lied to in this society by the people who have and we make the fatal mistake to get angry instead of cutting them off as an immediate punishment for their lie. This I believe is the biggest problem, we seem to be unable to mentally cut the world off. We focus way too much on our predicament instead of the solution, the real solution.
So in all 3 cases, I think the solution is very similar: We are too preoccupied with our failure, we make it into our identity. It's like being an incel is our identity now instead of living life. Instead of taking 6 months to seriously cut your weight and get ripped, we take 6 months to whine and cry about our situation and how unfair it is. I'm serious, I spent years like that. For what? In a single year I could have become ripped. But instead we whine because we are on a losing streak and it became our identity. I'm guilty about this myself. All I think about is to get a woman. It's pathetic, of course it is. I cant even work anymore because I'm so angry and desperate and disappointed, I'm ruining my life just because I couldn't fucking get a girlfriend because I'm such a retard and I believed people's random lies about life. It's a form of weakness, we were unable to simply say "fuck you, I just do whatever I want now to get ahead in life". Everyone else does it, but we are too nice, too good and we try to analyze the situation instead of overcoming the situation with force. Honestly, if I had said at age 18 "ok guys, alright. I hear you but now Ima do it my way, I dont care about any promises or anything you ever said to me. I'm never following any advice anybody ever gives ever again"... I think I would have done more than fine. But noooo, I was too nice. I thought I still had hope. Everyone said that I was young, I could still get everything I want. And me, the total retard, the weakling, said.. hey, they are logically right. I am still young, so I could still get everything I want. So I just waited. Great fucking job. I cant really even be THAT angry with other people I suppose because this is how it was... I believed some random bullshit that this world produces and I was too naive to reject them. I tried to be nice to bad people. Boom, life ruined. All because I tried to be nice and logical.
Things that stand out:
1. believes in romance and love like it comes from the TV and books
2. constantly angry
3. still has hope
I think every single one of those points is fatally bad for attracting a woman. I assume (I have zero experience though) that experienced women find it pathetic when a man looks for romance because she already knows that this isn't how it works at all. You just have sex and you get something you want, like financial support and over time you get to like that person.
"Love" really doesnt exist unless you count delusional elated feelings in the beginning that you finally found your perfect person, which of course is never true. It's just another human being who wants a good deal.
Secondly, being angry is something I actually tried to use to my advantage but it failed miserably. I could never get angry enough to change my life for the better. It seems that it's the same for him. Anger is a motivator is worthless, that is my conclusion.
Thirdly, having hope isn't necessarily bad but having hope in magically finding somebody is. You have to change, completely perhaps. Become a completely different person, force yourself to be act nice, force yourself to believe something totally different. I dont know, whatever it takes I suppose.
Let's watch another video:
Once again a man who simply cannot find a woman.
But wait, BOTH people look fine to me. In fact, more than fine. The dude could be a chad if he worked out like crazy, he has a good face. I'm serious, his facial symmetry etc. could make him into a chad.
The first older man also looks very good. I mean he is on the UPPER end of attractiveness for his age as far as I can tell.
So clearly the failure is mental. I repeat: The failure for these two men is mental. I'm specifically not talking about you forum people because no doubt, you will immediately lash out at me and say that your face is just too ugly and you specifically are just born too ugly.
I notice something else with this video that is similar to myself: A big obsession about analyzing the world and understanding the truth. He is overanalyzing instead of trying to find a solution. He literally said: "Improving yourself isn't going to do shit"
He is making excuses, he looks at others to excuse his own inaction. "oh an asshole can get a great girl, so I should easily get one". Boom, he just knocked himself out in the first round and it's painful for me because I did that to myself too. The second that I had a good job, I thought: I should be getting a great wife right now. There is nothing wrong with me.
Except I didnt understand that this is not how life works, it doesnt matter how much money or looks you have if you dont view women as another goal to attain instead of something that should just happen.
He says that he is trying to be real and honest but is it honest to say that because assholes get women, he should get one too? Is that truly logic? He isn't going to fix his problem like that.
I did the exact same thing, I thought that I was being LOGICAL by being sad about my situation. Look, you cant approach the situation like that. What would also be honest is to change yourself and be happy anyway because some kids die of cancer at age 8. So you should be super happy every single day. That's honest too. That's the truth too.
So I believe that we incels make a major logical mistake: We use partial logic to make full conclusions, which we then keep using to make more conclusions.
His only main point on why improving himself wont work is because assholes get women too. We are too weak, we cannot allow ourselves to think in such short, simplified ways. Okay, improving yourself isn't necessary sometimes, yet clearly it helps.
This is my point: I think the incels in these videos have shown that they accepted faulty partial logic to give up.
I did the exact same thing in my own life with acne. I had acne until age 23. You know what I did? I never even THOUGHT for one second that I could get a woman while I still have acne. I completely shut off my brain to that possibility. Later I learned.. holy shit, I could have fixed it. It's not necessarily 100% genetic, if you stop eating ANY sugar, ANY fruit, ANY milk, ANY bread.. you could have fixed it. I could have fixed my acne and begun thinking about how to get women at 14 instead of 23.
I took myself out of the game before it even started, all because I was a retard who just instantly believed some dude called my father who mentioned offhand that acne is genetic and it will go away on its own anyway, so dont worry.
Let's look at another (presumably) incel:
He isn't that bad looking, millions of people who look like him probably have women. He looks just fine to me.
He is also angry that he is being gaslighted, which is the same for me.
We are lied to in this society by the people who have and we make the fatal mistake to get angry instead of cutting them off as an immediate punishment for their lie. This I believe is the biggest problem, we seem to be unable to mentally cut the world off. We focus way too much on our predicament instead of the solution, the real solution.
So in all 3 cases, I think the solution is very similar: We are too preoccupied with our failure, we make it into our identity. It's like being an incel is our identity now instead of living life. Instead of taking 6 months to seriously cut your weight and get ripped, we take 6 months to whine and cry about our situation and how unfair it is. I'm serious, I spent years like that. For what? In a single year I could have become ripped. But instead we whine because we are on a losing streak and it became our identity. I'm guilty about this myself. All I think about is to get a woman. It's pathetic, of course it is. I cant even work anymore because I'm so angry and desperate and disappointed, I'm ruining my life just because I couldn't fucking get a girlfriend because I'm such a retard and I believed people's random lies about life. It's a form of weakness, we were unable to simply say "fuck you, I just do whatever I want now to get ahead in life". Everyone else does it, but we are too nice, too good and we try to analyze the situation instead of overcoming the situation with force. Honestly, if I had said at age 18 "ok guys, alright. I hear you but now Ima do it my way, I dont care about any promises or anything you ever said to me. I'm never following any advice anybody ever gives ever again"... I think I would have done more than fine. But noooo, I was too nice. I thought I still had hope. Everyone said that I was young, I could still get everything I want. And me, the total retard, the weakling, said.. hey, they are logically right. I am still young, so I could still get everything I want. So I just waited. Great fucking job. I cant really even be THAT angry with other people I suppose because this is how it was... I believed some random bullshit that this world produces and I was too naive to reject them. I tried to be nice to bad people. Boom, life ruined. All because I tried to be nice and logical.
