Theory An example of a people who did not consider its whiter neighbors superior to them (ancient Egypt)

[K9Otaku]

The Egyptian is on the right. Quite accurately, he is depicted as darker than the "Lybian" (1st on left) or the "levantine" (3rd from left) but fairer than the "Nubian" (second from left).

Ancient Egyptians considered both Lybians and Levantines (Palestinians and Syrians) to be inferior to them. Quite often, both of them were under Egyptian hegemony.

So this is an example of a medium-dark skinned people (roughly equivalent to middle-dark curries) who did not worship whites.

NB: The "Lybians" of Egyptian times are the ancestors of North African indigenous populations known as Kabyles, Berbers or Amazigh. They have indeed quite fair skin and clear eyes today.

 

[LifeIsBrootal]

Sand niggers ain't white

 

[El Enemigo]

0 shits given, their women crave white cock now

 

[Detro]

What does this have to do with inceldom?
Anyways what is you're point. Egyptians basically had the appearance of tanned europeans or arabs.
Them thinking they are better than "fairer skinned neighbors" is like how some white people think tans are more attractive than pale skin.

 

[Oroborus]

Look at Egypt now, just another sand shithole

 

[ReconElement]

It's like industrialised countries being racist to non industrialised countries, Japan was industrialised asf, so they hated and despised non industrialised other ricecels and thought of themselves as superior, Egypt was just a strong civilisation than these guys in the bronze age or early iron age so ofc they didn't think of these other sands as being superior to them simply cos of complexion. There's more to life than looks. Your avg south korean prolly thinks of himself as superior to everyone from China to Eastern Europe doesn't mean he wouldn't be mogged to death by these populations unless surgerymaxxed.

 

[nice_try]

And?

 

[incelerated]

based tbh

 

[K9Otaku]

Sand niggers ain't white

Depends which ones you are talking about. A Jew or a Lebanese is definitely whiter than an Egyptian. That is what the "Levantines" were in ancient Egyptian times.

What does this have to do with inceldom?

And?

It proves that whiteness was not always considered superior and that JBW is therefore merely cultural. There is no inherent superior aesthetic value to the white skin.

 

[Deleted member 41741]

And?

Yea.

Maybe it's aimed at me?

I will never be an upper-class WASP American who says things like "Clive, I say Emile Gilels playing the fugue from the Opus 101 is sublime."

View: https://youtu.be/ZsItzA34B1I?t=958 :feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:

incels.is

Was kidding bro.

 

[tehgymcel420]

Look at Egypt now, just another sand shithole

true

 

[K9Otaku]

Maybe it's aimed at me?

Why? I don't know your skin colour or your opinion on JBW

 

[Cristo]

Depends which ones you are talking about. A Jew or a Lebanese is definitely whiter than an Egyptian. That is what the "Levantines" were in ancient Egyptian times.

It proves that whiteness was not always considered superior and that JBW is therefore merely cultural. There is no inherent superior aesthetic value to the white skin.

Correct, white skin is valued because it comes with a higher chance of good general aesthetics (bone development), but not inherently more attractive. Mayo cels cope with their pale skin when Levantines, Latin, Iberian Chads mog them to hell and back generally.

 

[To koniec]

white skin is desirable but mostly for women

Why? I don't know your skin colour or your opinion on JBW

Correct, white skin is valued because it comes with a higher chance of good general aesthetics (bone development), but not inherently more attractive. Mayo cels cope with their pale skin when Levantines, Latin, Iberian Chads mog them to hell and back generally.

jbw is due to economic and cultural west has ( or slowly had ? ) over the world

 

[JayGoptri]

Sand niggers ain't white

How is this a black pill?

I guess you are referring to Southern Merica'speak for "Sand nigger"...

"Dem gudDamn foreigner towel heads from anywhere that ain't here, theyz sand niggers"

 

[K9Otaku]

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The Egyptian is on the right. Quite accurately, he is depicted as darker than the "Lybian" (1st on left) or the "levantine" (3rd from left) but fairer than the "Nubian" (second from left).

Ancient Egyptians considered both Lybians and Levantines (Palestinians and Syrians) to be inferior to them. Quite often, both of them were under Egyptian hegemony.

So this is an example of a medium-dark skinned people (roughly equivalent to middle-dark curries) who did not worship whites.

NB: The "Lybians" of Egyptian times are the ancestors of North African indigenous populations known as Kabyles, Berbers or Amazigh. They have indeed quite fair skin and clear eyes today.

When you look at this picture, you can quite clearly hear the Egyptian thinking: "I am normal. These foreigners are either too dark or too light. They look weird"

 

[IncelWithHate]

What does this have to do with inceldom?
Anyways what is you're point. Egyptians basically had the appearance of tanned europeans or arabs.
Them thinking they are better than "fairer skinned neighbors" is like how some white people think tans are more attractive than pale skin.

He thinks this is some refutation against JBW being intrinsic/objective beauty standard. Another shitty argument about how its simply due to white countries being developed and colonialism. Granted, those have compounded JBW but the wealth/influence of european groups is not the main reason.

Being the pseudointellectual he is, the fact white (such as nordic) children were highly prized as slaves by middle easterners long before colonialism was a thing passed over his head. Or Asian countries always considering pale skin preferable to darker tones. How dark skinned/black slaves in Eygpt were considered inferior and many (particularly Islamists) would castrate them, but not lighter toned individuals.

Then we have experiments where extremely young children (therefore omitting any inculcation/indoctrination) would almost always choose white dolls over dark ones and stare at lighter toned people significantly longer than ethnics.

Looks are largely objective.

 

[K9Otaku]

He thinks this is some refutation against JBW being intrinsic/objective beauty standard. Another shitty argument about how its simply due to white countries being developed and colonialism. Granted, those have compounded JBW but the wealth/influence of european groups is not the main reason.

Being the pseudointellectual he is, the fact white (such as nordic) children were highly prized as slaves by middle easterners long before colonialism was a thing passed over his head. Or Asian countries always considering pale skin preferable to darker tones. How dark skinned/black slaves in Eygpt were considered inferior and many (particularly Islamists) would castrate them, but not lighter toned individuals.

Then we have experiments where extremely young children (therefore omitting any inculcation/indoctrination) would almost always choose white dolls over dark ones and stare at lighter toned people significantly longer than ethnics.

Looks are largely objective.

Ok, pseudo-intellectual number 2.

I notice you did not refute the OP. What do you make of it?

 

[IncelWithHate]

Ok, pseudo-intellectual number 2.

I notice you did not refute the OP. What do you make of it?

Refute what? Make of what?

I already provided evidence that JBW is intrinsic. Even if we accept that Egyptians didn't follow JBW (and they did/do) at best you provided an outlier. Exception to the rule, so what?

 

[K9Otaku]

Refute what? Make of what?

I already provided evidence that JBW is intrinsic. Even if we accept that Egyptians didn't follow JBW (and they did/do) at best you provided an outlier. Exception to the rule, so what?

None of the evidence for the intrinsic nature of JBW holds water. It is all "social science" hence pseudo-science.

Experiments with babies cannot be made without bias.

Our understanding of the brain is far below what would be required to identify beauty at a neurological level.

The fact that whites were values as slaves did not mean they were considered superior (obviously).

Asian countries did not "always" consider fair skin better. Krishna (one of the main Hindu deities) bears a name that means "the black" or "the dark skinned". Many other hindu deities are represented with blue or green skin, which represent darker hues.

This is all a bunch of dubious factoids assembled to give a pseudo-scientific basis to cultural JBW

 

[K9Otaku]

Their have been instances in which a darker-skinned people worshipped deities depicted as fairer than their own due to a foriegn culture being forced upon them...

Perhaps, as restitution, African-Americans are beginning to become worshipped through BBC and white-cuckhold porn.

All sort of cultural trends attach to skin color.

If Africa Wakandamaxxed, suddenly everyone would want to be super-tanned.

 

[subhuman]

ancient egyptians were white. lmao wtf is with this literal wewuzzery

 

[K9Otaku]

ancient egyptians were white. lmao wtf is with this literal wewuzzery

I am not Egyptian

Egyptians were like they are today: middle-dark (like most curries)

We wuzz Egyptians is a retarded nigger thing. Nothing to do with it.

 

[subhuman]

Egyptians were like they are today: middle-dark (like most curries)

this is after the arab invasion tbh. none of the conquered countries stayed the same genetically

 

[K9Otaku]

this is after the arab invasion tbh. none of the conquered countries stayed the same genetically

Foreign invasions did not alter the genetic makeup of peoples that much in ancient times bc armies were small.

Furthermore, arabs were lighter skinned than Egyptians (they were levantine)

 

[JayGoptri]

He thinks this is some refutation against JBW being intrinsic/objective beauty standard. Another shitty argument about how its simply due to white countries being developed and colonialism. Granted, those have compounded JBW but the wealth/influence of european groups is not the main reason.

It is largely due to the success of European and Western cultures, yes. Though I agree white is more desirable than say, dark black. But his point regarding a light brown is well established. These people, still around the world today do not envy whites for simply their skin color..

He thinks this is some refutation against JBW being intrinsic/objective beauty standard. Another shitty argument about how its simply due to white countries being developed and colonialism. Granted, those have compounded JBW but the wealth/influence of european groups is not the main reason.

He's not fully rejecting all of JBW just that we might be flawed in thinking it's the only or highest aesthetics standard for beauty. Examples, he has provided from history !

Being the pseudointellectual he is, the fact white (such as nordic) children were highly prized as slaves by middle easterners long before colonialism was a thing passed over his head. Or Asian countries always considering pale skin preferable to darker tones. How dark skinned/black slaves in Eygpt were considered inferior and many (particularly Islamists) would castrate them, but not lighter toned individuals.

It is true that dark skin is looked upon with a certain disdain than fairer shades. But exactly how intrinsic that disdain is to our biological programming is a largely unanswered question. It could go the other way.
[UWSL]If you can't at least admit or entertain this, YOU are the psuedo-intellectual. [/UWSL]

Then we have experiments where extremely young children (therefore omitting any inculcation/indoctrination) would almost always choose white dolls over dark ones and stare at lighter toned people significantly longer than ethnics.

Hard to tell what's going on here.

Looks are largely objective.

They are somewhat objective, but they have a subjective component within the larger objectivity. This accounts for all sorts of variation and preference. I agree that bone structure is vital, but skin color (as long as it's not jet black negro) is usually less of a thing.