When foids do evil behavior such as lying and cheating, actually it is a good example for incels to follow, we should be doing to normies 1000x the evil they do to us.
Another example is terrorism. Society always says that doing an act of violence to threaten someone or being willing to die for a wrong belief is terrorism but then turns around and is always talking about killing and hurting people like criminals and pedophiles. The basic concept of any animal is that they can always fight and die for what they want, and so the idea that terrorism is bad is a really brutal brainwashing that affects incels a lot. It's just a normie psyop. What is bad is for an incel to do stuff that is to his own detriment. To be blunt the first principle is that all moral values are invalid since the idea that benefitting society comes before benefitting yourself is invalid. society is just an object for you to exploit (master mentality) and you are not some slave to society (slave mentality). even if you have to pretend to be a slave in the end your goal is always to exploit society. there is nothing inherent or fundamentally good to any moral value.
The problem of saying that normies are immoral and therefore we need religion. Actually it's the opposite, we need to be learning from the normies. We should be 1000x immoral as the normies. The normies are actually teaching us how to behave through their actions. Of course incels have to be way more cunning because normies don't allow us to be brutal, we have to hide our brutality to survive, but it requires an intensity of hate towards normies to pull off. Religion is ultimately a normie psyop and is used to manipulate people. The correct way to use religion is to gaslight normies into believing you are religious and then secretly sabotaging them brutally. The entire purpose of religion is as a weapon to brutalize people through deception. This is why even though I am an atheist I will always promote religion or degeneracy to normies because my goal is to sabotage the normies perception of reality as much as possible.
The biggest benefit of incel forum is to collectively find the patterns in normie behavior so that we can find strategies to defeat them, just like the wiki pages of video games that have strategy pages to defeat the NPC bosses. Normies are just an enemy to fight and defeat like any game NPC. The keyword is weaponization, the purpose of everything is creating these strategic weapons that defeat normies such as blackpills. So the posts about it's over is kind of sad because it distracts from this.
Also there's no real need for incels to be fundamentally right or normies to be fundamentally wrong. Even if I was wrong and normies were right I would still go out of my way to sabotage normies, because my goal is to defeat them. The point of getting together to strategize against normies isn't for some weird happy ending where incels live on an island, it's just a temporary alliance to strategize against normies. Suddenly there will be ww3 and some insane propaganda about religion or race and some incels will fall for it then so be it. It will not change the benefit of the strategies that were learnt during the time spent on the forum before that.