American politics is all about implementing an ultraaustere capitalist politics against the workers, using both Parties

[Leaving Hope]

Republicans:

No healthcare, free education, or public transit for you. Also shut up and glorify god.

Democrats:

No guns so you won't shoot us, also your unions are all corrupt and hooked into our party now and your minority discontent is going to be swallowed by identity politics.

 

[ElTruecel]

That’s why we need third positionism

 

[Leaving Hope]

That’s why we need third positionism

Yes, that will stop the capita

 

[MarquisDeSade]

That’s why we need third positionism

Or, my brand of communism that is economically leftist but socially conservative on everything else that is male dominated. American Stalinism but with a pro male working class angle.

 

[Leaving Hope]

Or, my brand of communism that is economically leftist but socially conservative on everything else that is male dominated. American Stalinism but with a pro male working class angle.

This shit is also capitalism.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Republicans:

No healthcare, free education, or public transit for you. Also shut up and glorify god.

Democrats:

No guns so you won't shoot us, also your unions are all corrupt and hooked into our party now and your minority discontent is going to be swallowed by identity politics.

There is only but one singular political party inside the United States that controls everything and that is WallStreet, everybody else merely its puppets for the dumb ignorant masses.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

This shit is also capitalism.

Explain.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

American lower classes must run reincarnation game only hope

 

[MarquisDeSade]

American lower classes must run reincarnation game only hope

An American male dominated proletarian revolution is the only solution to the U.S.

 

[PLA1092]

Strictly advocating for one mainstream establishment side of the contemporary political spectrum is absurd; none will ever attempt to appease or appeal to subhumans and truecels, lest they be deemed as supporters of the heinous crime of wrongtnink against the current bluepilled hegemony and supporters of us dirty, no-good, hateful inkwells...

But there are certain politicians and policies that will at least try to alleviate the current moral degeneracy currently being allowed to freely thrive, or at the very least make such cucks and foids seethe; they are better than the alternative, modern liberalism.

Fuck both, but one is still worse.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

An American male dominated proletarian revolution is the only solution to the U.S.

the Jews won't let it happen. Americans are too retarded. Only in reincarnation will they find hope.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Fuck both, but one is still worse.

There's virtually no difference between limousine democrats and republican RINOS at this point, JFL.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

the Jews won't let it happen. Americans are too retarded. Only in reincarnation will they find hope.

When things deteriorate rapidly for the poor and working class in this collapsing nation everybody will become revolutionary socialists overnight. Also, fuck the Jews.

 

[PLA1092]

There's virtually no difference between limousine democrats and republican RINOS at this point, JFL.

True, but RINOs aren't the only type of Republican from what I've seen.

 

[Leaving Hope]

Explain.

Wall of text

Not Real Communism™

notrealcommunism.blogspot.com

Tl;dr:

Stalinism isn't Communism for the same reason social democracy isn't: because it doesn't abolish the value form - which is to say the point of comparison between two products in the market. It retains wage labor and, for the most part, production for exchange.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

True, but RINOs aren't the only type of Republican from what I've seen.

Name a single republican that isn't a RINO.

 

[Leaving Hope]

Name a single republican that isn't a RINO.

ThEy rEaLly cArE aBoUt OuR tRaDwAifUs gUiZe

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Wall of text

Not Real Communism™

notrealcommunism.blogspot.com

Tl;dr:

Stalinism isn't Communism because it doesn't abolish the value form - which is to say the point of comparison between two products in the market. It retains wage labor and, for the most part, production for exchange.

I'm a communist, not a utopian. No matter what system you have is going to be imperfect, I still will take communism and socialism any day of the week having lived an entire life under crony capitalism that doesn't even pretend to believe in the dignity of people or humanity.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

ThEy rEaLly cArE aBoUt OuR tRaDwAifUs gUiZe

Everybody knows trad wives don't exist much like how femcels don't exist either.

 

[Leaving Hope]

I'm a communist, not a utopian. No matter what system you have is going to be imperfect, I still will take communism and socialism any day of the week having lived an entire life under crony capitalism that doesn't even pretend to believe in the dignity of people or humanity.

Marx's Communism isn't utopian. What it requires are a very specific set of circumstances just now beginning to develop, and which will likely take a few more centuries to reach mass revolutionary level.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Marx's Communism isn't utopian. What it requires are a very specific set of circumstances just now beginning to develop.

Well, you're pointing out the imperfections of communism where I'm just saying it was never meant to be utopian or perfect, it's an alternative system to capitalism with the goal of abolishing it.

 

[Leaving Hope]

Well, you're pointing out the imperfections of communism where I'm just saying it was never meant to be utopian or perfect, it's an alternative system to capitalism with the goal of abolishing it.

What I'm telling you is that the social conditions of Russia in the 20th century wasn't Communism. Like, "nOt ReAl CoMmUnIsm", but in this case it's true.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

What I'm telling you is that the social conditions of Russia in the 20th century wasn't Communism. Like, "nOt ReAl CoMmUnIsm", but in this case it's true.

Well, what we have now is late stage economic capitalism under a financial fascist dictatorship devouring itself in the most cruel unfathomable ways destroying a lot of people's lives everywhere, makes communism or socialism now very desirable.

 

[Leaving Hope]

Well, what we have now is late stage economic capitalism under a financial fascist dictatorship devouring itself in the most cruel unfathomable ways destroying a lot of people's lives, makes communism or socialism now very desirable.

Indeed, I agree. But it won't look anything like the Stalinist regime, not even the "good" USSR of the 60s and early 70s. It will be a kind of distributed worldwide system of production for exchange, not for social need.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Indeed, I agree. But it won't look anything like the Stalinist regime, not even the "good" USSR of the 60s and early 70s. It will be a kind of distributed worldwide system of production.

Nope, I support communism plus nationalism. Fuck globalism and world government.

 

[Leaving Hope]

Nope, I support communism plus nationalism. Fuck globalism and world government.

There will never be a world government. But there won't be nations either. It will literally be eight billion (or twenty, forty, however many) people communicating their needs directly to each other. The calculation problem is solved by computers.

Why would people produce "for strangers" for free? Because of the effects of absolute immiseration on humanity. There will be a period where the overwhelming majority of humanity is stripped to absolutely nothing and revolts. This will have the effect of altering what a person is.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

There will never be a world government. But there won't be nations either. It will literally be eight billion people communicating their needs directly.

Nation states are here to stay forever, I will accept nothing less. Anything else is globalist tricks for a world government, the likes of those assholes in Davos, Switzerland. Not playing that game.

 

[Leaving Hope]

Nation states are here to stay forever, I will accept nothing less. Anything else is globalist tricks for a world government, the likes of those assholes in Davos, Switzerland. Not playing that game.

That's a phase world capitalism is going to pass through. It literally cannot be resisted on the present material basis. But it will form the technical elements for a future overthrow of the entire system.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

That's a phase world capitalism is going to pass through. It literally cannot be resisted on the present material basis. But it will form the technical elements for a future overthrow of the entire system.

I do not believe in a global integrated system of control, that is all world government speak or jargon to me, I will never accept such prospects and neither will the rest of the world.

 

[Leaving Hope]

I do not believe in a global integrated system of control, that is all world government speak to me, I will never accept such prospects and neither will the rest of the world.

It's like this. This is a hypothetical future timeline, I'm neutral on the years etc., but let's go with it.

2024: DeSantis beats Biden in America, apparently causing a nationalist backlash to the WEF etc.

2028: But oops the economy has crashed entirely. The WEF-backed Democrat wins in a landslide.

2032: Likewise.

2036: Elections start to have overt corporate sponsors

...

2093: Living conditions are approaching critical mass

....

2246: World revolution. This revolution would have been impossible without the integration of the capitalist system into a world whole in the first place. You couldn't get rid of capitalism back when it was the Irish capitalists and the English capitalists and the Egyptian capitalists, but now you van ironically because they made the connections necessary to do it all at once.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

It's like this. This is a hypothetical future timeline, I'm neutral on the years etc., but let's go with it.

2024: DeSantis beats Biden in America, apparently causing a nationalist backlash to the WEF etc.

2028: But oops the economy has crashed entirely. The WEF-backed Democrat wins in a landslide.

2032: Likewise.

2036: Elections start to have overt corporate sponsors

...

2093: Living conditions are approaching critical mass

....

2246: World revolution. This revolution would have been impossible without the integration of the capitalist system into a world whole in the first place.

2023-2025 United States collapses completely.

There is only two paths forward:

1.) World War III ensues, human civilization collapses worldwide.
2.) The entire west collapses into a modern dark age, world restarts in the east.

Also, I would argue there won't be any national elections in 2024, not that it really matters because all political candidates are controlled opposition anyways.

You're such an optimist.

 

[Leaving Hope]

2023-2025 United States collapses completely.

There is only two paths forward:

1.) World War III ensues, human civilization collapses worldwide.
2.) The entire west collapses into a modern dark age, world restarts in the east.

Also, I would argue there won't be any national elections in 2024, not that it really matters because all political candidates are controlled opposition anyways.

You're such an optimist.

It won't come to that, although it will get hairy. Rather, the WEF will train normies for Real Communism without actually realizing it.

Implement a totally cash-free society because you wanna track everyone? Well ok, but now you have accustomed the retards to not measure with cash and possibly to think about a *moneyless* society as well.

Boost people like Musk and Neuralink as a locus of control? Ok, but now you have opened up the possibility of Borg-like hiveminds of workers cooperating against the system.

Etc.

Yes, the WEF promises an absolute technototalitarian nightmarescape short term, but in the long run it might be necessary. It isn't itself a good thing, but could be a necessary development in the course of human history (or did you actually think these shitty Westphalian States would exist eternally?). All humanity does it appropriate what the ruling class has left for it previously to smash the previous ruling class with, adopting the vaguely familiar forms of the past in a new way as it does.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

It won't come to that, although it will get hairy. Rather, the WEF will train normies for Real Communism without actually realizing it.

Implement a totally cash-free society because you wanna track everyone? Well ok, but now you have accustomed the retards to not measure with cash and possibly to think about a *moneyless* society as well.

Boost people like Musk and Neuralink as a locus of control? Ok, but now you have opened up the possibility of Borg-like hiveminds of workers cooperating against the system.

Etc.

Yes, the WEF promises an absolute technototalitarian nightmarescape short term, but in the long run it might be necessary. It isn't itself a good thing, but could be a necessary development in the course of human history (or did you actually think these shitty Westphalian States would exist eternally?). All humanity does it appropriate what the ruling class has left for it previously to smash the previous ruling class with, adopting the vaguely familiar forms of the past in a new way as it does.

The WEF is full of bloviating geriatrics who have no relevancy beyond money, they had a plan with the vaccines and pandemic where they fucked that up. It seems like none of their plans are going to succeed in much of anything because with all that money they're completely out of touch with the rest of the world which makes them delusional. A digital monetary system is practically dead on arrival, not going to happen. Musk is an idiot and a grifter.

 

[Leaving Hope]

The WEF is full of bloviating geriatrics who have no relevancy beyond money, they had a plan with the vaccines and pandemic where they fucked that up. It seems like none of their plans are going to succeed in much of anything because with all that money they're completely out of touch with the rest of the world which makes them delusional. A digital monetary system is practically dead on arrival, not going to happen. Musk is an idiot and a grifter.

They'll get their way at least part of the time!

 

[MarquisDeSade]

They'll get their way at least part of the time!

By now everybody knows who they are and what they're doing, essentially they're captains of a sinking ship, of course delusionals drunk on power are always the last ones to find out.

 

[ElTruecel]

Or, my brand of communism that is economically leftist but socially conservative on everything else that is male dominated. American Stalinism but with a pro male working class angle.

So NazBol?

 

[Leaving Hope]

So NazBol?

* capitalism

 

[bigantennaemay1]

Yes, that will stop the capita

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[MarquisDeSade]

So NazBol?

Similar, while I have nothing against the white European identity movement I would be more for a multiracial movement because I believe the only way we're going to destroy the enemy is by working together, men from all different races or ethnicities. That's what (((they))) fear the most and why they constantly divide us.

I honestly believe that once we get women under control racism towards each other everywhere will decrease. White men will be making more white babies and so will every other race or ethnicity of men including African Americans, Asians, and Latin Hispanics. I believe in the American nuclear family for all men, white, black, yellow, and brown.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

2246: World revolution. This revolution would have been impossible without the integration of the capitalist system into a world whole in the first place. You couldn't get rid of capitalism back when it was the Irish capitalists and the English capitalists and the Egyptian capitalists, but now you van ironically because they made the connections necessary to do it all at once.

Why would I care what happens after I pass away? I'm not even going to have offspring, so no humans to care about on their behalf, either. Same reason I don't give a shit about "MuH gLoBaL wArMiNg".

 

[ElTruecel]

Similar, while I have nothing against the white European identity movement I would be more for a multiracial movement because I believe the only way we're going to destroy the enemy is by working together, men from all races or ethnicities. That's what (((they))) fear the most and why they divide us.

I honestly believe that once we get women under control racism towards each other everywhere will decrease. White men will be making more white babies and so will every other race or ethnicity of men including African Americans, Asians, and Latin Hispanics. I believe in the American nuclear family for all men, white, black, yellow, and brown.

Interesting

 

[bigantennaemay1]

Similar, while I have nothing against the white European identity movement I would be more for a multiracial movement because I believe the only way we're going to destroy the enemy is by working together, men from all races or ethnicities. That's what (((they))) fear the most and why they divide us.

I honestly believe that once we get women under control racism towards each other everywhere will decrease. White men will be making more white babies and so will every other race or ethnicity of men including African Americans, Asians, and Latin Hispanics. I believe in the American nuclear family for all men, white, black, yellow, and brown.

What if I don't want children?

 

[MarquisDeSade]

What if I don't want children?

Whatever.