Am I the only one who cares more about lookism than inceldom?

[Fontaine]

I have pretty much accepted my celibacy, becoming a volcel.

On the other hand... I still can't get over lookism in the human species. I still can't get over halo and failo effect, these phenomenons where out of two boys doing exactly the same thing on a picture, one will end up on justneckbeardthings and the other not. I still can't get over the fact that on social networks, in high school and even college, your circle of influence and your "coolness" are directly proportional to your looks unless you are famous. I still can't get over the fact that we are supposed to accept all of this.

The reason I wish humanity to be replaced by emotionless robots, or at the very least cyborgs with a new emotional system, is merely because of lookism. If lookism wasn't a thing, I would LOVE humanity. Lookism makes everything unfair, and when you complain about this unfairness you are deemed a loser neckbeard.

 

[PrinceOfCope]

By itself it doesn't bother me.
What is infuriating is people who are lookism deniers. I think it's fundamentally unhealthy for a society to have the basis of its harmony be what is in essence a calculated series of deceptions. I believe that the average person would be much more disillusioned with the world and thus less inclined to participate in society on the whole if everyone was simply honest, which is probably why people are not honest about it.

You see it all the time in the form of those after school special type of TV shows where the story concludes with the meek guy getting with a girl after his perseverance shows him to be the best suitor for her, etc etc.

I think the pervasive narrative that personality actually matters is truly evil.

 

[_incelinside]

Genetic determinism bothers me the most

 

[th62eathhts2]

I think at some point all incels become volcels. It's apart of acknowledging it's over.

 

[Weirdcel]

The point of looks is to get you a gf. Caring more about looks than getting a gf just seems kinda vain to me.


Like being more interested in the UPS truck that brought you your package than your package, which is what you actually want. If that makes any sense.

 

[UnfortunatelyINCEL98]

Genetic determinism bothers me the most

The point of looks is to get you a gf. Caring more about looks than getting a gf just seems kinda vain to me.


Like being more interested in the UPS truck that brought you your package than your package, which is what you actually want. If that makes any sense.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

The point of looks is to get you a gf. Caring more about looks than getting a gf just seems kinda vain to me.


Like being more interested in the UPS truck that brought you your package than your package, which is what you actually want. If that makes any sense.

You could get a gf with an average face. But would you be able to hold onto her? She'd get bored of your average looks and look for something more exciting somewhere down the line. And throughout the time that she is with you, you're full of worry that some chad could steal her at any time.

 

[Weirdcel]

You could get a gf with an average face. But would you be able to hold onto her? She'd get bored of your average looks and look for something more exciting somewhere down the line. And throughout the time that she is with you, you're full of worry that some chad could steal her at any time.

True. But even good looking guys have to deal with other good looking guys snatching their gfs. Female nature to constantly scout for upgrades. The problem is more that monogamy isn't enforced/adultery punished like it once was.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

True. But even good looking guys have to deal with other good looking guys snatching their gfs. Female nature to constantly scout for upgrades. The problem is more that monogamy isn't enforced/adultery punished like it once was.

Good point, but if you're good looking, even if your girlfriend leaves you, you can find a replacement easily. If you're average looking, it's going to be a lot harder.

And yes women are actually encouraged these days to indulge in affairs or to scout for upgrades as you said. Women are told to "never settle for less, babe" whereas men are constantly being told to lower their standards.

 

[Ub2w]

I not longer give a shit about sex man, i just desire some great amount of normies got acid-faced in mass so they get it, fucking cucks don't understand our pain and come to criticize us.

 

[FeminismsCancer]

Natural selection, as in every species.

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

I have pretty much accepted my celibacy, becoming a volcel.

On the other hand... I still can't get over lookism in the human species. I still can't get over halo and failo effect, these phenomenons where out of two boys doing exactly the same thing on a picture, one will end up on justneckbeardthings and the other not. I still can't get over the fact that on social networks, in high school and even college, your circle of influence and your "coolness" are directly proportional to your looks unless you are famous. I still can't get over the fact that we are supposed to accept all of this.

The reason I wish humanity to be replaced by emotionless robots, or at the very least cyborgs with a new emotional system, is merely because of lookism. If lookism wasn't a thing, I would LOVE humanity. Lookism makes everything unfair, and when you complain about this unfairness you are deemed a loser neckbeard.

I agree with you, this is what bothers me most about humanity. This is why I will never understand religioucels who agree on this principle yet maintain belief in a God who not only created this hierarchical structure based on pure superficiality (it is undeniably programmed into human psyche to favour good-looking people over ugly ones) but also not to blame God for their miserable existence at the at the bottom of it.

 

[BlackPilledKira]

Lookism is what causes the depression, inceldom on it's own wouldn't be that bad if you weren't discriminated and implicitly persecuted in every day life.

If i was assured that my hard work in life would pay off then i would easily be able to cope, instead i got to accept the bitter reality that i'm not only destined to be alone but also a middle class wage slave that is treated like a subhuman.

 

[BlackPilledKira]

I agree with you, this is what bothers me most about humanity. This is why I will never understand religioucels who agree on this principle yet maintain belief in a God who not only created this hierarchical structure based on pure superficiality (it is undeniably programmed into human psyche to favour good-looking people over ugly ones) but also not to blame God for their miserable existence at the at the bottom of it.

Any incel that worships god has no self respect and dignity. They are literally praising the entity that forced them into a life of misery and injustice, even cucks have more self respect than this.

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

Any incel that worships god has no self respect and dignity. They are literally praising the entity that forced them into a life of misery and injustice, even cucks have more self respect than this.

They are either coping in denial or low IQ.

 

[Fontaine]

The point of looks is to get you a gf. Caring more about looks than getting a gf just seems kinda vain to me.


Like being more interested in the UPS truck that brought you your package than your package, which is what you actually want. If that makes any sense.

Kinda vain? You sound like the female journalist who tried to accuse incels of vanity when we are merely describing the vanity of others.

Looks don't merely play a role in dating but social popularity and influence in general. They can also safeguard you from bullying or on the contrary, get you bullied and rejected.

I can see that you're a fakecel / mentalcel because no truecel would ever diminish the importance of looks in daily life.

 

[Fontaine]

I agree with you, this is what bothers me most about humanity. This is why I will never understand religioucels who agree on this principle yet maintain belief in a God who not only created this hierarchical structure based on pure superficiality (it is undeniably programmed into human psyche to favour good-looking people over ugly ones) but also not to blame God for their miserable existence at the at the bottom of it.

An argument in favor of God is that He wants to test the superficiality of people, rewarding the non superficial and punishing the superficial, but it's quite weak overall (we can't really choose, it's automatic) and I understand incels who dislike traditional religion

Myself I am actually more of a transhumanist than a Christian

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

An argument in favor of God is that He wants to test the superficiality of people, rewarding the non superficial and punishing the superficial, but it's quite weak overall (we can't really choose, it's automatic) and I understand incels who dislike traditional religion

Myself I am actually more of a transhumanist than a Christian

Yeah, I’ve got to say it doesn’t make sense for a God test human moral resolve and superficiality whilst starting them off from different positions. It’d just be unfair. As for transhumanism I’d say there’s a lot to be said for it as humans are innately flawed, can’t see it coming to pass in our own lifetimes unfortunately.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

Until this thread I didn't even know what lookism was, all I knew about it was the fact that there's a shitty forum with a bunch of gl people and foids titled the same name.

But yeah, Lookism fucking sucks. If you're good looking you automatically get invited to be with the popular people, they actively try to get you into their clique, people want to like you by default, you do better in job interviews and you get promoted quicker. Shit makes me want to rope.

By itself it doesn't bother me.
What is infuriating is people who are lookism deniers. I think it's fundamentally unhealthy for a society to have the basis of its harmony be what is in essence a calculated series of deceptions. I believe that the average person would be much more disillusioned with the world and thus less inclined to participate in society on the whole if everyone was simply honest, which is probably why people are not honest about it.

You see it all the time in the form of those after school special type of TV shows where the story concludes with the meek guy getting with a girl after his perseverance shows him to be the best suitor for her, etc etc.

I think the pervasive narrative that personality actually matters is truly evil.

I think this bothers me more than lookism itself though.

If people were at least self-aware and acknowledged its existence it would be easier to get cosmetic surgery that level the playing field, less people would put up with looking ugly. But instead you get a bunch of people who were genetically gifted who try to pretend these phenomena don't exist and try to spread blue pill garbage about how looks don't matter in anything, all whilst they benefit from lookism in a way you can blatantly see. These same people have a good looking SO, hang out with other good looking probably financially well off people, most are white... so they find it easy to tell us that looks don't matter because they're on the positive side of the equation.

It's such blatant hypocrisy when you see the life style they life and the people they surround themselves with, but they deny such a basic fact about humanity.

 

[notsexstarved]

Why hate it when you can exploit it?

Until this thread I didn't even know what lookism was, all I knew about it was the fact that there's a shitty forum with a bunch of gl people and foids titled the same name.

But yeah, Lookism fucking sucks. If you're good looking you automatically get invited to be with the popular people, they actively try to get you into their clique, people want to like you by default, you do better in job interviews and you get promoted quicker. Shit makes me want to rope.



I think this bothers me more than lookism itself though.

If people were at least self-aware and acknowledged its existence it would be easier to get cosmetic surgery that level the playing field, less people would put up with looking ugly. But instead you get a bunch of people who were genetically gifted who try to pretend these phenomena don't exist and try to spread blue pill garbage about how looks don't matter in anything, all whilst they benefit from lookism in a way you can blatantly see. These same people have a good looking SO, hang out with other good looking probably financially well off people, most are white... so they find it easy to tell us that looks don't matter because they're on the positive side of the equation.

It's such blatant hypocrisy when you see the life style they life and the people they surround themselves with, but they deny such a basic fact about humanity.

Cosign.

Item 1-B as I call it, is the LIES about lookism. I can understand the strategy, and it's an impressive feat of propaganda.

Especially the female youtuber 'examinations' about inceldom. Are they operating on instinct and just spouting off? Or are they at least semi-calculated in lying about it? That's what I want to know.

 

[Fontaine]

As for transhumanism I’d say there’s a lot to be said for it as humans are innately flawed, can’t see it coming to pass in our own lifetimes unfortunately.

Ray Kurzweil has made a powerful case for tech accelerationism, but tbh I estimate the probability of ASI by 2045 at merely 30%

Cryonics / Nectome-style brain fixation is likely our only (remote) chance of seeing the future.

 

[Rightful anger]

Lookism is not that important. If you are a good looking guy you will still have to chase girls at your level, get rejected, etc. It is overestimated here.
Heavily NT extroverts can be more successful because being ugly themselves they have lower standards. These are usually the biggest manginas.

 

[Zyros]

lmao at people here missing the point and making it all about getting women.

Yes. If inceldom was only about not getting women, while still being shit, woildnt be nearly as bad as looks determining every area of your life is.

The fact that your career on a non-service white collar job in which you dont have to interact with customers is STILL heavily influenced by your looks is something really really fucked up, just to put up one example.

 

[Weirdcel]

Looks don't merely play a role in dating but social popularity and influence in general. They can also safeguard you from bullying or on the contrary, get you bullied and rejected.

None of that matters when you have a gf.

Having a gf makes you less neurotic about looks and things in general. Find a mate is your purpose as a sexual entity, it's when you fail it that you fall into the rabbit hole of strange thoughts. IT posters are bullshitting when they say sex isn't a need.

 

[The End]

I don't care how I look. I rarely leave the house, so how I'm treated is fine enough right now (exchange money for goods).

I was thinking the other day - I'd be so fucking high-on-life if I had a face resembling the elephant-man, but girls were insanely attracted to me. I could look in the mirror everyday and say, "Hello handsome!" to this face.

 

[New New Poster]

Lookism is more important than racism, sexism, classism combined. It's one of the most controlling cognitive biases, and it has to be. I can't tell whats going on in anyone's head. All I can do is guess by their expression. But some faces make certain expressions and give off certain appearances better than others, so I have to assume they're better. There's no escape from it. Social conventions can change, but lookism will always remain.

I kinda wish forums could get away from the exclusive focus on just sexual attractiveness. Lookism is far more complex and far reaching.

 

[TheIncelStaresBack]

Lookism is more important than racism, sexism, classism combined. It's one of the most controlling cognitive biases, and it has to be. I can't tell whats going on in anyone's head. All I can do is guess by their expression. But some faces make certain expressions and give off certain appearances better than others, so I have to assume they're better. There's no escape from it. Social conventions can change, but lookism will always remain.

I kinda wish forums could get away from the exclusive focus on just sexual attractiveness. Lookism is far more complex and far reaching.

This.

Nothing makes my blood boil more than when a 10/10 ethnic girl complains about the 'adversity' she faces because she's a minority. Bitch, you are 10000000x more privileged than the pasty old balding white guy that's wage-slaving at his white collar job (me).

 

[Zyros]

Lookism is more important than racism, sexism, classism combined. It's one of the most controlling cognitive biases, and it has to be. I can't tell whats going on in anyone's head. All I can do is guess by their expression. But some faces make certain expressions and give off certain appearances better than others, so I have to assume they're better. There's no escape from it. Social conventions can change, but lookism will always remain.

I kinda wish forums could get away from the exclusive focus on just sexual attractiveness. Lookism is far more complex and far reaching.

True. Every oppressed group was considered oppressed, fought for and given support. Lots of oppressed groups were also in the wrong culture at the wrong time. unattractive males are just hated universally, no matter the times or the culture, by everyone.

 

[Tellem-T]

Lookism is more important than racism, sexism, classism combined. It's one of the most controlling cognitive biases, and it has to be. I can't tell whats going on in anyone's head. All I can do is guess by their expression. But some faces make certain expressions and give off certain appearances better than others, so I have to assume they're better. There's no escape from it. Social conventions can change, but lookism will always remain.

I kinda wish forums could get away from the exclusive focus on just sexual attractiveness. Lookism is far more complex and far reaching.

Lookism and racism is linked

 

[Zyros]

Lookism and racism is linked

no lmao. racism is mostly cultural or political, lots of times used as a weapon.

Lookism is biological and inherent to our nature. They are very different things.

 

[NeverSubmit]

Lookism doesn't bother me as much as classism. If I was upper class rich guy I wouldn't care about my looks.

 

[Sadist]

Genetic determinism bothers me the most

 

[Tellem-T]

no lmao. racism is mostly cultural or political, lots of times used as a weapon.

Lookism is biological and inherent to our nature. They are very different things.

Since race plays a big parts of looks it is linked

 

[New New Poster]

Lookism and racism is linked

Nah, racism has more of a historical element to it. Lookism is constant.

 

[Tellem-T]

Nah, racism has more of a historical element to it. Lookism is constant.

It goes both ways.

 

[Zyros]

Since race plays a big parts of looks it is linked

6/10 tyrone/jamal will cuck any 5/10 white easily

 

[Tellem-T]

6/10 tyrone/jamal will cuck any 5/10 white easily

You are very wrong, only an 8+ can do that, also 5/10 white will have more success on tinder than the 6/10 nigger

Aren't even aware of the racepil, okcupid reply rate race studies, @13k racepill threads with facts,anecdotes and statistics evidence, how bitches self hating ethnic females bashing there own kind and praising white men on twitter?

Almost all women wants a white man, race plays a huge part of looks and your life quality. I'm so surprised you are not racepilled and you call yourself blackipilled. If you were truly black pulled you would be racepilled since it's a branch of the blackpill

 

[mylifeistrash]

With stories of tall white guys going to asia, they usually say they feeling like a celebrity and a god because of their height and white skin was better than having sex.

being a legit 8/10 and getting validation must be you feel like a living god

 

[Mainländer]

I don't care as much about the halo effect outside of the context of sex and relationships to be honest. But that might have to do with the fact I'm ugly but not that much, I very, very rarely get noticed for being specifically ugly. I'm just plain below average, "you're cool but I'm not interested teehee" tier.

 

[incel-american]

High IQ thread.