Serious Am I a degenerate or a by-product of this shit society?...

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

It's really fucked up, I lost my virginity to a whore last year. I've been pondering over the fact that it certainly isn't normal for a 20 year old to lose their virginity to an escort. I hate degenerates with every fiber of my being but does that make me a hypocrite? I certainly did sleep with a toilet and I feel that it is degenerate behaviour or am I just a by-product of our shitty society, where sex is valued, toilets are valued and if you're unattractive, you're viewed as worthless? I went to a whore because I deeply wanted to be loved but now my emotions have changed, I feel hatred towards toilets, there perpetual malice in my heart and I fear, I'll end up this way until I either rope or die.

TLDR Am I a hypocrite or am I just a by-product of our society?

 

[BlueCore]

it's society's fault

 

[aswellfella]

I uhh I don't really know, man

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

Tagging brocels: @RegularManlet @VictimofBpillReaper @Made_In_Azania @GodspeedPeasant @ilieknothing @DarkStarDown @comradespiderman29 @CopingForBrutality @Epedaphic

 

[lowz1r]

both. it's impossible to be incel and not degenerate

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

it's society's fault

It do think so too but as a human I do believe that I do influence my own actions. My actions aren't controlled by society. I just don't want to be a hypocrite mang, there's three things I hate in this world, toilets, hypocrites and liars

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

both. it's impossible to be incel and not degenerate

Absolutely brutal, care to explain?

 

[zerozerozero]

its the only option for consentual foid sex for incels

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

I uhh I don't really know, man

Brootal

 

[VictimofBpillReaper]

Tagging brocels: @RegularManlet @VictimofBpillReaper @Made_In_Azania @GodspeedPeasant @ilieknothing @DarkStarDown @comradespiderman29 @CopingForBrutality @Epedaphic

I mean you did something degenerate because you are unable to obtain the real thing naturally.

I wouldn't beat yourself up over it brocel.

You did what you had to to lose your virginity

 

[smegma producer]

society has made everyone more degenerate, the baseline capacity one have for degeneracy gets amplify by the current culture

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

its the only option for consentual foid sex for incels

Absolutely brootal, so you think were arent degens but were forcefully put in our situation? I don't think us incels should use that as an excuse tbh, normies will do the exact same thing and they'll be able to justify their degeneracy

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

society has made everyone more degenerate, the baseline capacity one have for degeneracy gets amplify by the current culture

100% factos but nonetheless, we(i) are still degens then

 

[lowz1r]

Absolutely brutal, care to explain?

because when you're that deprived, you start doing all kinds of extremely desperate shit. Not necessarily the incel's fault, but they will be blamed for it anyway

 

[smegma producer]

100% factos but nonetheless, we(i) are still degens then

yes but not too the same level as it would bee in a more healthy society

 

[zerozerozero]

Absolutely brootal, so you think were arent degens but were forcefully put in our situation? I don't think us incels should use that as an excuse tbh, normies will do the exact same thing and they'll be able to justify their degeneracy

the difference is that we are being honest and truthful

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

because when you're that deprived, you start doing all kinds of extremely desperate shit. Not necessarily the incel's fault, but they will be blamed for it anyway

We all know norm scum are degenerate but I don't think their deprived per se.... idk tbh.

 

[Made_In_Azania]

Nah bruv, men are designed to bust nuts, I will never blame men who visit escorts, rape or groom, this gynocentric pussy-worshiping society has made sex impossible to acquire for men.

The real degenerates are loose females, they already have men throwing themselves at their feet, yet they can never be satisfied & choose to sleep around

 

[Epedaphic]

I don’t think it makes you a hypocrite. Hypergamy has gotten to a level where it’s thrown off the balance so much, I don’t think that needing to resort to a whore to lose your virginity is “degenerate.” Honestly though I understand the societal stigma with it and it’s one thing that’s kept me from going to one myself, so I think I get where you are coming from with it. But with men who’ve been deemed undesirable being so heavily gatekept from sex, how can we not still want to have these intimate experiences, even if we have to pay? So although I remain a virgin, I certainly do not look down on guys who see whores.

 

[RegularManlet]

I dont think its degenerate to see a whore one time to lose your virginity

If I was going to rope I would have sex with an escort beforehand

You wouldnt have done it if you had a loving GF

Honestly a lot of decisions and stuff are just predetermined from your genetics and life

If we were chads we probably would have fucked a lot of girls even though it is degenerate

If we were foids we would probably chad chase

But I think there is a window of flexibility there

Eg. all foids want chad, but some are really chad only, others are a bit more negotiable

Given your circumstances what you did isnt bad

 

[CopingForBrutality]

Don't blame yourself, I did the exact same thing and I didn't regret it. Not my fault men are wired this way, if I participate in this there is no loss towards me or to society, I'm not harming anyone not even myself. I think everyone should try out an escort here at least once because it demystifies the act of sex, which is a redeeming experience, you don't have to dwell upon your thoughts about it anymore. You notice a hot girl in public and you're apathetic and unconcerned because you've fucked a similar looking girl before.

As for whether it is a biproduct of society or whether you're a hypocrite, it's too difficult to tell, such hypotheticals shouldn't matter because you're always going to be a biproduct of both things, what's happened has happened brocel, hypotheticals are useless.

 

[ilieknothing]

Nah you were fulfilling your biological urges, it is unnatural to be incel. Only those who have a foid ready and fuck around are degenerate

 

[Simba]

It’s the only way for us.

 

[GodspeedPeasant]

i think we are just animals at the bottom of the food chain . mothernature placed us in this hierarchy due to us not having the necessary genetic traits suited for our current climate, A hyena often scavenges for leftovers and carcasses for it to survive, while a leopard hunts for fresh prime prey.You finding intimacy through a prostitue is your way of scavenging for leftovers to survive. difference is you are conscious about your flaws and also conscious about the disparity of yourself to the hierarchy. this leans to you being a by-product

 

[Izayacel]

The Result of a Gynocentric Society breeds Desperation Perhaps .

Not your Fault .

 

[Adolf Kitler]

it's society's fault

 

[Adolf Kitler]

Absolutely not your fault brocel

 

[Autistic Uggo]

It’s the only way for us.

For men in our situation, you either escortmaxx or die a khhv.

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

Nah bruv, men are designed to bust nuts, I will never blame men who visit escorts, rape or groom, this gynocentric pussy-worshiping society has made sex impossible to acquire for men.

The real degenerates are loose females, they already have men throwing themselves at their feet, yet they can never be satisfied & choose to sleep around

Unfathomably based as usual unfortunately female degeneracy will only increase, the youth is influenced by faith nketsi and other promiscuous toilets

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

I don’t think it makes you a hypocrite. Hypergamy has gotten to a level where it’s thrown off the balance so much, I don’t think that needing to resort to a whore to lose your virginity is “degenerate.” Honestly though I understand the societal stigma with it and it’s one thing that’s kept me from going to one myself, so I think I get where you are coming from with it. But with men who’ve been deemed undesirable being so heavily gatekept from sex, how can we not still want to have these intimate experiences, even if we have to pay? So although I remain a virgin, I certainly do not look down on guys who see whores.

Based, great to hear your input. Will you ever lose your virginity to an escort?

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

I dont think its degenerate to see a whore one time to lose your virginity

If I was going to rope I would have sex with an escort beforehand

You wouldnt have done it if you had a loving GF

Honestly a lot of decisions and stuff are just predetermined from your genetics and life

100%

If we were chads we probably would have fucked a lot of girls even though it is degenerate

If we were foids we would probably chad chase

But I think there is a window of flexibility there

Eg. all foids want chad, but some are really chad only, others are a bit more negotiable

Given your circumstances what you did isnt bad

I see brocel thanks for the input

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

Don't blame yourself, I did the exact same thing and I didn't regret it. Not my fault men are wired this way, if I participate in this there is no loss towards me or to society, I'm not harming anyone not even myself. I think everyone should try out an escort here at least once because it demystifies the act of sex, which is a redeeming experience, you don't have to dwell upon your thoughts about it anymore. You notice a hot girl in public and you're apathetic and unconcerned because you've fucked a similar looking girl before.

As for whether it is a biproduct of society or whether you're a hypocrite, it's too difficult to tell, such hypotheticals shouldn't matter because you're always going to be a biproduct of both things, what's happened has happened brocel, hypotheticals are useless.

Brootal mang, i totally understand you though

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

For men in our situation, you either escortmaxx or die a khhv.

 

[Epedaphic]

Based, great to hear your input. Will you ever lose your virginity to an escort?

I dunno man. Sometimes I want to, but I also am still holding onto this fantasy that I'll find a girl who likes me and will lose my virginity with her. after this many years I know it's unlikely but... yeah. dunno.

 

[Runt171]

i think we are just animals at the bottom of the food chain . mothernature placed us in this hierarchy due to us not having the necessary genetic traits suited for our current climate, A hyena often scavenges for leftovers and carcasses for it to survive, while a leopard hunts for fresh prime prey.You finding intimacy through a prostitue is your way of scavenging for leftovers to survive. difference is you are conscious about your flaws and also conscious about the disparity of yourself to the hierarchy. this leans to you being a by-product