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[FBI]

I don’t ignore the system I’m anti capitalist

Why do you dislike capitalism so much? I suspect it is because you are poor, which is understandable. People who struggle under it see only the downsides. But if you were comfortable, had enough money to live without constant stress, I doubt you would complain in the same way. Most criticisms of capitalism come from those it has left behind, not from those who benefit from it.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

technically everyone here was a greycel at one point, just enough clicking at keys and posting gets you a different color, there is no real difference.

It means you could be a fed or fakecel

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Why do you dislike capitalism so much? I suspect it is because you are poor, which is understandable. People who struggle under it see only the downsides. But if you were comfortable, had enough money to live without constant stress, I doubt you would complain in the same way. Most criticisms of capitalism come from those it has left behind, not from those who benefit from it.

Because I think there should be a one class system and the state owns the majority of the wealth. The state owns all the industries and redistributes it equally amongst the working class. Sex should also be equally distributed among men. Solving inceldom and economic inequality.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

dumb point because by that logic a fed could just postmaxx and become non greycel. You think a federal agent who is actually trying to infiltrate shit would not do enough research and put in enough work to just get over 500 posts?

It would make him a fedcel

 

[aryanmikmaq]

They

maybe I'm fedcel, postmaxxing with each reply...

Based

 

[Solomonar]

USSR wasn't anything crazy too bud. How about 1 million to 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag. How about 800,000 executions recorded and potentially millions more deaths from forced collectivization, deportations, and famines like the Holodomor. What a successful regime!

>Holodomor
"Communism is when ukros die", still many exagerated and part or saboteur (mainly from polish and jewish landlords) Btw USSR have only two famines, the "holodomor" famine (which was partially because of some brainlet biologist but that could also happen in capitalism) all people talk about and the post-ww2 one. Btw capitalism kills millions of people anually, saying that communism (which didn't even won because communism is the total and world liberation of the workers, what we are talking about is socialism and it functioned) is genocidal is like saying that a ton of steel weighs more than a ton of feathers. At least the steel is used for the guns and industry and not for the pillows of the rich.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

>Holodomor
"Communism is when ukros die", still many exagerated and part or saboteur (mainly from polish and jewish landlords) Btw USSR have only two famines, the "holodomor" famine (which was partially because of some brainlet biologist but that could also happen in capitalism) all people talk about and the post-ww2 one. Btw capitalism kills millions of people anually, saying that communism (which didn't even won because communism is the total and world liberation of the workers, what we are talking about is socialism and it functioned) is genocidal is like saying that a ton of steel weighs more than a ton of feathers. At least the steel is used for the guns and industry and not for the pillows of the rich.

 

[Solomonar]

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Spitting fax brocel

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

FUCK THE RICH MOGGERS!

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[FBI]

Because I think there should be a one class system and the state owns the majority of the wealth. The state owns all the industries and redistributes it equally amongst the working class. Sex should also be equally distributed among men. Solving inceldom and economic inequality.

So your answer is basically communism, extended even into sex? The problem is that every attempt at such a system has failed, not only economically but socially. A state that owns everything inevitably becomes corrupt, because those in charge of redistribution still hold the power to decide who gets what.

The trouble is that it is wishful thinking. Classes will not and cannot be gone. Put people together and some will rise over others. As for labor, it is naïve to believe men will suddenly work only for the joy of it. If many will not work when their life depends on it, they will not work when it no longer does.

What always happens instead is that a new class rises, the one that claims to speak for everyone and decides what each man "deserves." That class holds the real power, and it is no less a ruling class than the old one!

 

[FuckYou]

CALL CENTER

 

[Solomonar]

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>still killing christcucks while killing fags
Based

 

[aryanmikmaq]

So your answer is basically communism, extended even into sex? The problem is that every attempt at such a system has failed, not only economically but socially. A state that owns everything inevitably becomes corrupt, because those in charge of redistribution still hold the power to decide who gets what.

Cap

 

[aryanmikmaq]

>still killing christcucks while killing fags
Based

Soviet Union actually reopened orthodox churches during ww2 and after. But yes the leaders were majority atheist.

 

[FBI]

Cap

Can you elaborate on that?

 

[Solomonar]

Soviet Union actually reopened orthodox churches during ww2 and after. But yes the leaders were majority atheist.

Only for propaganda and motivation for the great patriotic war, still Stalin raped the ROC and many russians besides grannies don't actually care about christianism besides "le based christian traditional bastion against satanic fag west".

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Can you elaborate on that?

Communism is still working today though China is no longer one class system they are still closer to socialism than western countries. China has private property now but the state owns all the land beneath that property and the people have to renew the property every 70 years.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Only for propaganda and motivation for the great patriotic war, still Stalin raped the ROC and many russians besides grannies don't actually care about christianism besides "le based christian traditional bastion against satanic fag west".

I am not orthodox so I don’t care about what they did to them

 

[SrutalBeggs]

So, jews

 

[FBI]

Communism is still working today though China is no longer one class system they are still closer to socialism than western countries. China has private property now but the state owns all the land beneath that property and the people have to renew the property every 70 years. View attachment 1540039

What China has is a one-party authoritarian state combined with a market economy. The government owns all the land, as you said, but private enterprise and global trade are what actually drive their economy. That is why China's growth only took off after Deng Xiaoping's reforms in the late 1970s, when the country moved away from strict socialism. If it were still truly communist, with the state controlling all production and abolishing private wealth, it would be stuck in the same stagnation it had under Mao.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

So, jews

And white capitalists

 

[Solomonar]

I am not orthodox so I don’t care about what they did to them

I was baptised orthodox but i realised is just a pyramid scheme to get money from (old) people, just like every religion

 

[aryanmikmaq]

What China has is a one-party authoritarian state combined with a market economy. The government owns all the land, as you said, but private enterprise and global trade are what actually drive their economy. That is why China's growth only took off after Deng Xiaoping's reforms in the late 1970s, when the country moved away from strict socialism. If it were still truly communist, with the state controlling all production and abolishing private wealth, it would be stuck in the same stagnation it had under Mao.

I liked it better under Mao

 

[aryanmikmaq]

I was baptised orthodox but i realised is just a pyramid scheme to get money from (old) people, just like every religion

 

[FBI]

I liked it better under Mao

Why do you say you liked it better under Mao? Under him China went through famine, mass purges, and economic collapse. Tens of millions starved during the Great Leap Forward, and the Cultural Revolution tore apart institutions, culture, and even families. It is hard to call that "better," unless you mean equal poverty and suffering. At least after Mao, living standards rose, life expectancy increased, and China became more than a starving agrarian society.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Why do you say you liked it better under Mao? Under him China went through famine, mass purges, and economic collapse. Tens of millions starved during the Great Leap Forward, and the Cultural Revolution tore apart institutions, culture, and even families. It is hard to call that "better," unless you mean equal poverty and suffering. At least after Mao, living standards rose, life expectancy increased, and China became more than a starving agrarian society.

 

[FBI]

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Huh? The rise in life expectancy after 1949 is not proof that Maoist ideology worked. The real driver was the arrival of basic public health measures: antibiotics, vaccines, sanitation, and modern medicine finally reaching the countryside. The same thing happened in many other poor countries once they gained access to those tools. The improvement came not from communism itself, but from China catching up with modern health care and later moving away from strict Maoist control.

 

[Leon98]

i wish i had at least a half decent highschool experience. fuck my life.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

@LeFrenchCel thoughts?

I agree

 

[SmhChan]

Why do you dislike capitalism so much? I suspect it is because you are poor, which is understandable. People who struggle under it see only the downsides. But if you were comfortable, had enough money to live without constant stress, I doubt you would complain in the same way. Most criticisms of capitalism come from those it has left behind, not from those who benefit from it.

Well, I make quite bit of money, at least it's considered a lot where I live, but I'm staunchly against capitalism. I have members in the family who make nowhere near my pay but have 30+ year-long job security. Whereas I might be without a job in 2-3 years. Then I'd be told to "adapt" or some redpill horseshit.

The only fucks (folks) who thrive under capitalism are the ones who own IPs (tech giants and Hollywood studios), lands and real estate owners (Blackrock) and of course foids. Even owning a "successful" business is not a sign of you thriving under capitalism. Merit hardly matters in the capitalist system. It's all about exploiting the merits of the ones who don't own IPs or have generational wealth under their names.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

500K invested paying you interest/dividends to survive is poverty.

maybe in your zogged shithole

Why do you dislike capitalism so much? I suspect it is because you are poor, which is understandable. People who struggle under it see only the downsides. But if you were comfortable, had enough money to live without constant stress, I doubt you would complain in the same way. Most criticisms of capitalism come from those it has left behind, not from those who benefit from it.

dogshit argument greycuck. I benefit from capitalism yet the current system produced a degenerate gynocratic world where anything goes for profit and most are silently enslaved doing a soul crushing cuck job

dumb point because by that logic a fed could just postmaxx and become non greycel. You think a federal agent who is actually trying to infiltrate shit would not do enough research and put in enough work to just get over 500 posts?

watch your mouth greycuck infiltrators out themselves pretty fucking quickly, they practically never make it to 500

Whereas I might be without a job in 2-3 years. Then I'd be told to "adapt" or some redpill horseshit.

the system is inherently very unstable and it's only getting more unstable with time. when the printing press was invented, people still had hundreds of years to decide to not become a scribe. nowadays, it's simply not worth playing anymore

The only fucks (folks) who thrive under capitalism are the ones who own IPs (tech giants and Hollywood studios), lands and real estate owners (Blackrock) and of course foids.

it is basically neofeudalism these days

Even owning a "successful" business is not a sign of you thriving under capitalism. Merit hardly matters in the capitalist system. It's all about exploiting the merits of the ones who don't own IPs or have generational wealth under their names.

yeah especially how government can nuke it in a heartbeat with whatever bullshit they think up to squeeze the goyim next

 

[FBI]

dogshit argument greycuck. I benefit from capitalism yet the current system produced a degenerate gynocratic world where anything goes for profit and most are silently enslaved doing a soul crushing cuck job

If you benefit from capitalism yet still despise it, then it seems what you really hate is not the system of markets itself but the culture and values that have grown around it. Capitalism rewards demand, and in a liberal democracy, demand is shaped by mass tastes: sex, comfort, entertainment, novelty. That is why you see the "degeneracy" you describe. It is not that capitalism inescapably creates a gynocracy, but that in our society, those in power are unwilling to restrain markets in any moral direction. Other systems can impose limits, but they usually do it by taking away freedom and creating even more corruption.

 

[FBI]

dogshit argument greycuck. I benefit from capitalism yet the current system produced a degenerate gynocratic world where anything goes for profit and most are silently enslaved doing a soul crushing cuck job

You seem very confident in your answers, since you went straight to insults. So tell me, what do you think is a better alternative that avoids both degeneracy and corruption?

 

[vic624]

If you benefit from capitalism yet still despise it, then it seems what you really hate is not the system of markets itself but the culture and values that have grown around it. Capitalism rewards demand, and in a liberal democracy, demand is shaped by mass tastes: sex, comfort, entertainment, novelty. That is why you see the "degeneracy" you describe. It is not that capitalism inescapably creates a gynocracy, but that in our society, those in power are unwilling to restrain markets in any moral direction. Other systems can impose limits, but they usually do it by taking away freedom and creating even more corruption.

Those in power do restrain the market in sex and drugs so that prostitution and possession are punishable with jail time. Even with those efforts, the inability to constrain the market is seen from the common knowledge that escorting and drug use are available to those who seek it. What anti-capitalists seem to really dislike is the accumulation and use of large amounts of capital without any popular input. Blue Origin and Bezos are an example of workers knowing their pay is not higher because the wealth generated by their labor has to go to a space tourism project.

 

[jnoob60]

How you have 600 million and you are depressed like HOW and how you ride a Uber and not trip him like your fucking rich and u a cheapskate un real I agree they need their money strip from them

 

[FBI]

Those in power do restrain the market in sex and drugs so that prostitution and possession are punishable with jail time. Even with those efforts, the inability to constrain the market is seen from the common knowledge that escorting and drug use are available to those who seek it. What anti-capitalists seem to really dislike is the accumulation and use of large amounts of capital without any popular input. Blue Origin and Bezos are an example of workers knowing their pay is not higher because the wealth generated by their labor has to go to a space tourism project.

Finally, someone who is not a moron. I agree, and I think this comes much closer to the real heart of the anti-capitalist argument: what people resent most is not that markets exist, but that massive capital accumulation can occur without popular input or accountability. The system allows wealth to be funneled into vanity projects or speculation, while the workers who made that wealth possible see little in return. That imbalance, more than the market itself, is what breeds so much anger.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

I am almost there, feds 1 incels 0

alright nigger

 

[SmhChan]

Those in power do restrain the market in sex and drugs so that prostitution and possession are punishable with jail time. Even with those efforts, the inability to constrain the market is seen from the common knowledge that escorting and drug use are available to those who seek it.

Really? Capitalism has moral restraints? I don't claim to have much intimate knowledge of capitalism of 50 years ago in regard to its moral boundaries, but the Modern Gynocracy-fueled Neo-capitalism absolutely doesn't have any moral restraint.

In case you didn't notice, the jail-time for seeking prostitutes is only reserved for men. It doesn't apply to the prostitutes who are offering their "service." They are trying to put a cap on men's sexual outlet, not dictating some sexual moralism. These capitalist fucks have no issues with whores flashing their tits in front of a cam and getting paid thousands of dollars.

Finally, someone who is not a moron. I agree, and I think this comes much closer to the real heart of the anti-capitalist argument: what people resent most is not that markets exist, but that massive capital accumulation can occur without popular input or accountability. The system allows wealth to be funneled into vanity projects or speculation, while the workers who made that wealth possible see little in return. That imbalance, more than the market itself, is what breeds so much anger.

Seems like your comment is a critique of the capitalism.

 

[DPRKcel]

truth nuke
itt: stockholm syndromecels

 

[DPRKcel]

I have more contempt with small time rich people, obvious nepobaby failsons, upper middle class Americans, lucky women, OF whores, digital nomads, Silicon Valley workers and small business owners.
I don't really care about multibillionaires like Jeff Bezos and Elon musk

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

If you benefit from capitalism yet still despise it, then it seems what you really hate is not the system of markets itself but the culture and values that have grown around it. Capitalism rewards demand, and in a liberal democracy, demand is shaped by mass tastes: sex, comfort, entertainment, novelty. That is why you see the "degeneracy" you describe. It is not that capitalism inescapably creates a gynocracy, but that in our society, those in power are unwilling to restrain markets in any moral direction. Other systems can impose limits, but they usually do it by taking away freedom and creating even more corruption.

not the only reason. it's simply easier to trigger the animal in people than produce anything meaningful so goyim are conditioned to enjoy slop. also, kikes and their anti white, anti family agenda. so no, degeneracy is central to and inseparable from capitalism. make no mistake, I am not a statist cuck, however if hole rights were massively curbed, all social welfare programs except basic healthcare (non-aging or birth defect related) cancelled and infinite capital accumulation and simultaneous debasing of currency and extreme taxation solved then the system might actually be livable as holes would be dependent on men and winners wouldn't keep auto winning for free forever. but again, capitalists don't want this, nor is it even possible to take away hole rights without a revolution or jews trying to fuck with you for it

You seem very confident in your answers, since you went straight to insults. So tell me, what do you think is a better alternative that avoids both degeneracy and corruption?

no greyshit, YOU went straight to insults

Finally, someone who is not a moron.

and greynigger actually has the audacity to call others adhominemcels not gonna make it here lil greycuck if you keep disrespecting your elders like that

 

[SilentShadow]

I'm against both communism and capitalism.

 

[FBI]

not the only reason. it's simply easier to trigger the animal in people than produce anything meaningful so goyim are conditioned to enjoy slop. also, kikes and their anti white, anti family agenda. so no, degeneracy is central to and inseparable from capitalism. make no mistake, I am not a statist cuck, however if hole rights were massively curbed, all social welfare programs except basic healthcare (non-aging or birth defect related) cancelled and infinite capital accumulation and simultaneous debasing of currency and extreme taxation solved then the system might actually be livable as holes would be dependent on men and winners wouldn't keep auto winning for free forever. but again, capitalists don't want this, nor is it even possible to take away hole rights without a revolution or jews trying to fuck with you for it

The claim that "degeneracy" is inseparable from capitalism because it is easier to sell base pleasures than meaningful goods is not unique to capitalism. Any system that allows people some degree of choice will see most gravitate toward what is easy, fun, or comforting rather than what is profound. Bread and circuses worked in Rome long before consumer capitalism.

When you talk about "fixes," what you are really describing is markets still existing but steered by state power and social coercion, which may give you the outcomes you prefer but is no longer capitalism so much as capitalism under authoritarian restraints. And if those restraints are needed to keep people from choosing "degeneracy," then the real issue is human demand itself, not the existence of markets.

 

[FBI]

and greynigger actually has the audacity to call others adhominemcels

Pointing out that I found someone else's argument reasonable is not an insult to you. If you choose to read "moron" as aimed at you, that is on you, not me.

 

[FBI]

Seems like your comment is a critique of the capitalism.

No, it is called identifying what people actually resent so the conversation is not stuck on strawmen. Pointing out that people are angry about capital accumulation without accountability is not the same thing as condemning capitalism itself.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

Pointing out that I found someone else's argument reasonable is not an insult to you. If you choose to read "moron" as aimed at you, that is on you, not me.

kill yourself normalfag. this tactic of redirecting blame after an agitating comment may work on your normshit friends, but not here

The claim that "degeneracy" is inseparable from capitalism because it is easier to sell base pleasures than meaningful goods is not unique to capitalism. Any system that allows people some degree of choice will see most gravitate toward what is easy, fun, or comforting rather than what is profound. Bread and circuses worked in Rome long before consumer capitalism.

When you talk about "fixes," what you are really describing is markets still existing but steered by state power and social coercion, which may give you the outcomes you prefer but is no longer capitalism so much as capitalism under authoritarian restraints. And if those restraints are needed to keep people from choosing "degeneracy," then the real issue is human demand itself, not the existence of markets.

sadly there is no way around the femshit problem than by use of force. actual humans (men) can be free, w*men are happiest in chains anyway, they just don't know it. the very nature of holes makes subjugation necessary. even in nature, holes are subjugated. it is simply the way of life due to their inferior strength. so I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. yes people are fucked too but if there was a framework and a will to promote not being a piece of shit idiot (a bit like Christianity used to be, although I wouldn't want to defend Christianity too much) then even a normshit can be trained to behave better. society didn't use to be this fucked up. Americans had most of their freedoms after independence, yet they were culturally significantly superior compared to now. so it is indeed possible to live in a better world
obviously markets have to exist. and I'd argue for significantly less state intervention than in eurocuck countries, but where there is intervention, it has to be effective and reach the outlined goals. I wouldn't confuse capitalism (or its late stages we're going through, corporatism and neofeudalism) with markets myself. markets do fuck the world up but capitalist, globalist governments fuck them up more. capitalism isn't markets, it's the acceptance of and complete submission to ever growing capital and inequality. a modern example is how the new deal had to go through to avert communism or fascism in the USA and that resulted in very prosperous decades for much of the population
yes, humans are inherently somewhat degenerate but this is amplified a hundredfold by kike media and living their dogshit modern wageslave lives
leaning into high tech like China for increased productivity, automation to reduce the number of soul crushing jobs and ASI for actual deep comprehension and minimal bias regarding organization, systems and laws are possible paths

 

[Sir Silentium]

Liberal alert

 

[FBI]

yes, humans are inherently somewhat degenerate but this is amplified a hundredfold by kike media and living their dogshit modern wageslave lives

What you are saying is really not far from my point. If you admit that people are "inherently somewhat degenerate," then it cannot just be capitalism that is to blame. Religion, culture, and law can shape behavior for a while, but the pull toward comfort and cheap pleasure never disappears, it only gets redirected. That is why Rome had bread and circuses, why Christianity, like you mentioned, pushed discipline and self-denial, and why modern societies keep coming up with new ways to distract people.

You can call the current system "capitalism," "corporatism," or "globalism," but the pattern is the same: people want easy pleasure, and those in charge give it to them. If you think the only way to stop that is with force or heavy social engineering, then the real issue is not the market itself but human demand. On that point, I think we are actually in agreement.

 

[SmhChan]

No, it is called identifying what people actually resent so the conversation is not stuck on strawmen. Pointing out that people are angry about capital accumulation without accountability is not the same thing as condemning capitalism itself.

What you identified lies at the core of Capitalism, making it a rotten system.

What you are saying is really not far from my point. If you admit that people are "inherently somewhat degenerate," then it cannot just be capitalism that is to blame.

He also mentioned that Capitalism amplifies it by a hundredfold

You can call the current system "capitalism," "corporatism," or "globalism," but the pattern is the same: people want easy pleasure, and those in charge give it to them. If you think the only way to stop that is with force or heavy social engineering, then the real issue is not the market itself but human demand. On that point, I think we are actually in agreement.

Most of the population (at least men) deserve more than what they are given, but they have to be content with what the people in charge give them. And you are making too many presumptions. People have no problem with hard labor as long as they can afford a house, daily necessities, and still save for the future. Capitalists want you in a pod and jerk off to porn. Just because you're leading a more sedentary lifestyle doesn't that's what you want.

 

[FBI]

What you identified lies at the core of Capitalism, making it a rotten system.

He also mentioned that Capitalism amplifies it by a hundredfold

I do not think it lies at the core of capitalism so much as it lies at the core of any system where wealth and power can accumulate. Capitalism channels that through markets, but feudalism did it through land and monarchy, socialism often does it through the party and bureaucracy. The problem is not markets themselves but the absence of checks on concentrated power. Without accountability, any system will rot in the same way.

Most of the population (at least men) deserve more than what they are given, but they have to be content with what the people in charge give them. And you are making too many presumptions. People have no problem with hard labor as long as they can afford a house, daily necessities, and still save for the future. Capitalists want you in a pod and jerk off to porn. Just because you're leading a more sedentary lifestyle doesn't that's what you want.

I do not disagree that most men deserve more stability than they are given, and that people will accept hard work if it actually secures a decent life. My point is not that everyone consciously wants a sedentary existence, but that when comfort and cheap distraction are widely available, they become the path of least resistance. Those in charge exploit that tendency because it is easier than cultivating discipline or higher aims. So the issue still comes back to demand meeting power: people lean toward easy pleasures, and rulers prefer to indulge that tendency rather than resist it.