Venting All relationships are transactional, it's legalized prostitution - Why even Bother?

[Justanotherbloke]

The notion that every relationship is transactional just the truth. Once you see it clearly, it reframes everything you thought was genuine. You're not valued for who you are, but for what you offer. Your presence is justified by your utility. Strip that away, and the illusion of connection dissolves instantly.

What’s sold as 'love' is sustained exchange of benefits like material, emotional, social. It’s not unconditional. It’s not transcendent. It’s conditional reciprocity, dressed up in sentimental language and im fucking sick of this, how can any sane man not see this and still simp, chase, be used, play the game like naive suckers. It’s never about you, stupid lunatic. It’s about what proximity to you affords her. Status. Security. Stimulation. Advancement. You’re not a person in her eyes, but a potential upgrade. And apart from all the choice / options and men flooding her inbox that she has (which already dilutes any incentive for commitment), this core dynamic is another reason I’ve grown mentally exhausted by the entire premise, it's a pathetic clown show.

I just see the design clearly. When attention is reduced to a cost benefit analysis, and affection is allocated based on perceived ROI, why participate at all? I’d rather not. I refuse to be seen as a utility, an accessory to someone else’s curated lifestyle and what she thinks a man should be. I’m not interested in being tolerated for my output. It’s all performative. When everything is based on 'what can he add to my life' there is no genuine bond, only strategic alignment. That’s not love. That’s literally a parasitic framework.

 

[daydreamER]

Physical world is inherently flawed because of this and many other reasons which is why most groups of people tried to cope with spirituality to transcend.

 

[Justanotherbloke]

Physical world is inherently flawed because of this and many other reasons which is why most groups of people tried to cope with spirituality to transcend.

Do you agree with the statement that it's a subtle way of her being a prostitute? Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

this is why being an abuser is fuckin rad

 

[Justanotherbloke]

this is why being an abuser is fuckin rad

They'll make exceptions for abusers with high SMV dark triad, get knocked up and ask for a financially stable hubby cuck in their 30s

 

[Maikowski]

marriage is about sex

normies were forced to marry to take care of the foids they fucked, it's a basic pre requisite for civilization

 

[ESL]

unconditional love isnt real tbh, many guys here say "i will never be loved because of my looks", but is it really love if its based off your looks, at most that is conditional love, more like lust and sexual attraction, the phase where women settle is probably a way to extract resources from a beta male to feed their materialism while she gets plowed in secret by the alpha that she is actually attracted to(in the prehistoric period they just didnt interact with the beta probably because they didnt need to), off my head probably some wrong stuff

 

[daydreamER]

Do you agree with the statement that it's a subtle way of her being a prostitute? Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Nature of hypergamy assures that majority of the time females are benefiting more. I guess you could call if prostitution because of that but one could say males are benefiting more in real prostitution. It's not like males are doing anything unconditionally either so maybe we are both prostitutes.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

The notion that every relationship is transactional just the truth. Once you see it clearly, it reframes everything you thought was genuine. You're not valued for who you are, but for what you offer. Your presence is justified by your utility. Strip that away, and the illusion of connection dissolves instantly.

What’s sold as 'love' is sustained exchange of benefits like material, emotional, social. It’s not unconditional. It’s not transcendent. It’s conditional reciprocity, dressed up in sentimental language and im fucking sick of this, how can any sane man not see this and still simp, chase, be used, play the game like naive suckers. It’s never about you, stupid lunatic. It’s about what proximity to you affords her. Status. Security. Stimulation. Advancement. You’re not a person in her eyes, but a potential upgrade. And apart from all the choice / options and men flooding her inbox that she has (which already dilutes any incentive for commitment), this core dynamic is another reason I’ve grown mentally exhausted by the entire premise, it's a pathetic clown show.

I just see the design clearly. When attention is reduced to a cost benefit analysis, and affection is allocated based on perceived ROI, why participate at all? I’d rather not. I refuse to be seen as a utility, an accessory to someone else’s curated lifestyle and what she thinks a man should be. I’m not interested in being tolerated for my output. It’s all performative. When everything is based on 'what can he add to my life' there is no genuine bond, only strategic alignment. That’s not love. That’s literally a parasitic framework.

So true

 

[LastGerman]

Physical world is inherently flawed because of this and many other reasons which is why most groups of people tried to cope with spirituality to transcend.

It is only flawed because we are unable to participate in it. It is all about looks, height and penis size. We have been excluded from it. Not here to participate, just to watch. I watch other people having fun. I watch other people living their lives.
This is why people start with "spritiuality" but men actually start to create their own cult. This is all to get females and coitus. It is all about that.

 

[blackpillednigga]

unconditional love isnt real tbh, many guys here say "i will never be loved because of my looks", but is it really love if its based off your looks, at most that is conditional love, more like lust and sexual attraction, the phase where women settle is probably a way to extract resources from a beta male to feed their materialism while she gets plowed in secret by the alpha that she is actually attracted to(in the prehistoric period they just didnt interact with the beta probably because they didnt need to), off my head probably some wrong stuff

its very hard to change your phenotype-based looks if you were chad. it's much better than being loved for your money or status, which is volatile

 

[ESL]

its very hard to change your phenotype-based looks if you were chad. it's much better than being loved for your money or status, which is volatile

, still transactional, women would instantly stop loving chad if he got acid thrown in his face

 

[daydreamER]

It is only flawed because we are unable to participate in it. It is all about looks, height and penis size. We have been excluded from it. Not here to participate, just to watch. I watch other people having fun. I watch other people living their lives.
This is why people start with "spritiuality" but men actually start to create their own cult. This is all to get females and coitus. It is all about that.

We are always participating in the physical world, I don't mean sex and relationships. Everything is transactional. Chad is still being desired for his genetics and looks by foids even if that is better or "purer" than being desired for money and status.

Only thing you can do is try to break free by being selfless and all that mumbo jumbo but that's cringe because I don't want to be nice to people who have it better than me in every way, so I'd rather try to make their lives worse or at the very least neutral. And it can be debated whether true selflessness can actually exist.

 

[Justanotherbloke]

Nature of hypergamy assures that majority of the time females are benefiting more. I guess you could call if prostitution because of that but one could say males are benefiting more in real prostitution. It's not like males are doing anything unconditionally either so maybe we are both prostitutes.

Men aren’t prostitutes in this dynamic because male desire isn’t based on extraction. Men don’t pursue women for their resources, status, or utility, they pursue for different reasons, none of it offer tangible advantage. It’s not transactional but it’s idealistic. Never have I laid in my bed fantasizing about a woman thinking of 'what can I gain, extract from her' it's literally always disney love thoughts when I was in my bluepilled days, and even in my blackpilled days I try to stay away from oneitis but sometimes still end up idealizing. Women on the other hand are biologically wired to select based on what a man can provide like parasites, not love like disney movies, they use the word love to lure in naive suckers who aren't blackpilled yet. Hypergamy ensures that attraction is tied to access, security, and elevation. That’s a resource based filter. That is literally transactional.

So no we’re not both prostitutes. One gives without demand, the other demands before giving. That’s not symmetry. That’s exploitation.

 

[Justanotherbloke]

unconditional love isnt real tbh, many guys here say "i will never be loved because of my looks", but is it really love if its based off your looks, at most that is conditional love, more like lust and sexual attraction, the phase where women settle is probably a way to extract resources from a beta male to feed their materialism while she gets plowed in secret by the alpha that she is actually attracted to(in the prehistoric period they just didnt interact with the beta probably because they didnt need to), off my head probably some wrong stuff

Even being desired for your looks is conditional yea, It’s still a negotiation but one based on genetic aesthetics rather than material resources. It's simply a biological heuristic for high value genes. That’s not love either, just reproductive logic masquerading as passion. And you've got most of the public still pumping out Chris Norman simp music I'm too blackpilled to see through everything, and that this whole world and humanity is off from the foundation of it.

Romantic idealism tries to universalize something inherently selective. The language of 'forever' obscures the fact that most attraction is governed by short term, situational triggers and the bond usually dissolves. And stupid idiots call it love.
Women are wired to extract what benefits them like I said before. Hypergamy ensures they optimize upwards. So when you’re no longer the optimal choice, affection declines.

 

[daydreamER]

Men aren’t prostitutes in this dynamic because male desire isn’t based on extraction. Men don’t pursue women for their resources, status, or utility, they pursue for different reasons, none of it offer tangible advantage. It’s not transactional but it’s idealistic. Never have I laid in my bed fantasizing about a woman thinking of 'what can I gain, extract from her' it's literally always disney love thoughts wjen i was in my bluepilled days, and even in my blackpilled days I try to stay away from oneitis but sometimes still.end up idealizing. Women on the other hand are biologically wired to select based on what a man can provide, not love like disney movies, they use the word love to lure in naive suckers who aren't blackpilled yet. Hypergamy ensures that attraction is tied to access, security, and elevation. That’s a resource based filter. That is literally transactional.

So no we’re not both prostitutes. One gives without demand, the other demands before giving. That’s not symmetry. That’s exploitation.

I don't know enough about the way that females experience attraction, I only know the prerequisites (face, race height). For the average man you'd be correct, females will only think of his resources, status and utility but for chad the rules change. Foids become selfless for chad and want to provide and protect him. That might has well be worthless though because of the sheer amount of prerequisites needed for that in the first place. Just be top 5 percent of men theory.

But I think when you look at males who have a similar amount of choice and status as the average woman (chads) they act quite similar to them. They go through lots of foids, are more misogynistic, etc. Vast majority of males would probably just act and desire the same if they had the amount of choice and privilege foids had.

 

[ESL]

Romantic idealism tries to universalize something inherently selective. The language of 'forever' obscures the fact that most attraction is governed by short term, situational triggers and the bond usually dissolves. And stupid idiots call it love.

exactly its short term and when its long term it just ends up in a: dead bedroom, cheating, and a divorce at the end, literally most foids change boyfriends every few months.

 

[FastBlast]

The only reason you would "bother" is if you're a genetically gifted chad and relationships come easy for you. Water reply ngl. Over

 

[Justanotherbloke]

exactly its short term and when its long term it just ends up in a: dead bedroom, cheating, and a divorce at the end, literally most foids change boyfriends every few months.

I think you are a real blackpiller.
Cause once you understand that looks are also transactional, you reached the upper echelon of the blackpill. You understand that the female xx chromosome species is inherently parasitic, and that humanity was destined to fail and that it would be better if that ATLAS Meteorite crashes into earth. How can this go on any longer.

 

[ESL]

it would be better if that ATLAS Meteorite crashes into earth

 

[MRHK_57]

If you disregard spirituality, marriage is just the most premium form of prostitution. And modern western society treats it in the same way.

 

[Justanotherbloke]

If you disregard spirituality, marriage is just the most premium form of prostitution.

Couldn't have said it any better myself,