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Academics recently debate over whether it's ethical or possible to give us sexual entitlements

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/q27ma4exx4hd44i/JME Sex and Disability Published Version.pdf?dl=0#pageContainer4
^^ I found the latest academic paper about sexual entitlements with a summary of a debate and an argument by an ethicist (who happens to also be a feminist) named Alida Liberman as to whether or not we should be given sexual entitlements. Alida argues no entitlements or rights.

Much to Alida's dismay, academic Jacob M Appel (male, what a coincidence) did argue for such entitlement in 2009. He argued for sex surrogates for those "whose physical or mental disabilities make sexual relationships with non-compensated adults either impossible or highly unlikely"
"and such services should be covered by all public health systems and private insurance plans"
https://jme.bmj.com/content/36/3/152

Alida argues (in the most annoyingly verbose way possible) that what Jacob proposes could not possibly be moral or possible, because a (large?) amount people would be too ugly or kinky for willing surrogates (aka hyped up prostitutes). Now, I literally know of no single instance in which someone has reported to the public that no hooker anywhere is willing to service him and he has tried many hookers (only exception being maybe elephant man, but I don't know his case). So with that looks argument that doesn't play out in the real world, what Alida is implicitly arguing is that because a few people would be rejected based on kinks, the right isn't universal to all disabled people and therefore immoral. I wonder why she thinks degenerates who can only get off through kinks are so numerous, is she one of these people? I'd argue if 2-3 people out of 3 million people can only get off by shitting on people and can't find enough people to shit on often enough, we can safely eliminate them from having an entitlement to shitting on people out of a utilitarian argument for the 99.999% of incels who can theoretically happily get off with a real adult person who isn't traumatized or harmed in any way by the experience.

She then argues that the scope of 'disabled' is impossible to scope without encompassing too many people. Essentially saying that there wouldn't be enough women willing to be paid to have sex for men who can't have sex. Is that a problem in any country with legalized prostitution? NO.

She goes onto argue that there's too many people that would receive such an entitlement, because a parapalegic man is obviously the same thing as a man in a city with a too high male:female ratio /sarcasm. She seems to avoid the fact that some men simply are much, much more disabled than others. One way I'd propose to measure how disabled someone is is by how long someone has gone without sex. And I don't think anyone would try to game that entitlement by not having sex for a year or whatever to receive a free surrogate, especially if you required a note from a therapist that said person has tried as hard as they could to have sex.
 
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naw fuck dat, should just reinstate the world where people who contribute to society get rewarded, I'm not here for handouts or helping losers. I'd help myself but cant help ugly
 
naw fuck dat, should just reinstate the world where people who contribute to society get rewarded, I'm not here for handouts or helping losers. I'd help myself but cant help ugly

By definition we have all lost the dating game and are losers in that respect. You are saying you that some people here should go through mental torment because they are disabled, that's sociopathy not utility.
 
im only giving a more realistic world, free sex for losers is never going to happen
 
It doesn't matter. The government providing sex surrogates to incels is effectively the same as escortceling, and escorts don't really WANT to fuck you. Everyone here could afford a whore at least once but we don't because it's about emotional connection. Complaining that the nanny state won't give you a hooker you could buy yourself for 100 bucks is a waste of time, and not a solution to the incel problem.
 
naw fuck dat, should just reinstate the world where people who contribute to society get rewarded, I'm not here for handouts or helping losers. I'd help myself but cant help ugly
This. For example during Roman times you were rewarded a trad wife and some land after completing your military service. Infidelity was illegal if not looked down upon socially.

Leftists are truly the enemy of us incels, and so are rightist. A third way taking the best out of each is best.
 
I bet that even after losing my virginity I would still feel isolated so I don't think that is the main problem for incels.
 
im only giving a more realistic world, free sex for losers is never going to happen
But you're ok with single whore mom losers fucking tyrones, then you pay the bill for her kids and abortions. Men deserve tax funded hookers since bitches get tax funded everything. If you are ok with femoids using the taxes for their bullshit then don't complain about sub6 men using it.
 
Modern philosophy is a joke. It is based on faulty axioms, and needs to be replaced.
 
AFFORDABLE REALISTIC SEX ROBOTS NOW
 
lmao

why do leftist freaks always obsess over the word "entitlement?" Its like everything that cause you pain, you are entitled to get it fixxed by the gov't to them. Is that why they always spam that when we feel lonely as if feeling lonely makes us bad people?
 
lmao

why do leftist freaks always obsess over the word "entitlement?" Its like everything that cause you pain, you are entitled to get it fixxed by the gov't to them. Is that why they always spam that when we feel lonely as if feeling lonely makes us bad people?

It's a false axiom of modern philosophy that "entitlement" matters. The concept of "entitlement" is supposed to be just a tool that society uses to maximize utility - nothing more. When "entitlement" does not result in a maximization of utility, it needs to be ignored.
 
lmao

why do leftist freaks always obsess over the word "entitlement?" Its like everything that cause you pain, you are entitled to get it fixxed by the gov't to them. Is that why they always spam that when we feel lonely as if feeling lonely makes us bad people?

The US is one of the only countries where social programs are seen as leftist freak ideas just cuz they are social programs
 
Whenever I hear a feminist talks, it reminds me of the words of Shaytan. They literally ideologically agree with Shaytan on almost every point. Feminism is pure ego worshiping narcissism and violent hatred towards the weak, sick, poor and oppressed. The leftists are more authoritarian and ruthless than the republicans, which why America sucks.
 
im only giving a more realistic world, free sex for losers is never going to happen
It's a reality in Switzerland and Holand.
It doesn't matter. The government providing sex surrogates to incels is effectively the same as escortceling, and escorts don't really WANT to fuck you. Everyone here could afford a whore at least once but we don't because it's about emotional connection. Complaining that the nanny state won't give you a hooker you could buy yourself for 100 bucks is a waste of time, and not a solution to the incel problem.

Escortcel helps me a lot to cope in the hardest moments.
It's better than nothing.
 
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