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The Quran states, among other things: “It is better not to follow any prophet at all than to follow the false one.”

How great is the irony that they're calling a warmonger a prophet.

We are in the 7. century after Christ: The Levant is conquered, along with all of North Africa, extending as far as parts of the Iberian Peninsula. Islam, a new adaptation of the abrahamic tradition is spreading. Muhammad stands at the helm as the supreme leader, the holy messenger of the final message from the Abrahamic God. A religion that was spread by the sword and forced upon people through fear.

Muhammad’s beautiful and inspiring writings date from his youth and early 20s. He was different back then - more spiritual - before he became a military leader. His entire tone changes after that, too. He shifts from being a peacemaker to a conqueror. I don’t think I need to say what Muhammad thought of Christians and Jews. It’s also best to leave out the content of the Hadith when discussing him, unless you want to talk about pedophilia and other morally questionable behaviors.

The reason there is a division between Shiites and Sunnis today stems from the fact - in addition to other traditions that emerged after his death and disputes among his highest-ranking followers - that Muhammad, in his later years, differed greatly in his words and way of life from his younger self, when he was still wet behind the ears. One group practices a more moderate form of Islam, while the other clearly and unequivocally preaches conquest and advocates for a theocratic state in its most radical form. He was a young, educated man for his time. He could read and write, and felt a spiritual calling to be a messenger of God. Although he had no connection to the lineage of Abraham and was not descended from the royal house of David or Solomon, he was a self-proclaimed madman with his own fan fiction that still resonates today.

Since he has no connection to Abraham’s family tree, nor to the other lineage references in King David and King Solomon, no. Every prophet of the Old Testament can be traced back to Abraham. That is why Genesis begins with a long genealogical account that extends all the way to Jesus. I am simply arguing from a theological perspective here. From the theological perspective of the Abrahamic faith, he is not a prophet - no.
 
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Oh my god, finally a break from the most retarded nigs criticizing islam, instead someone who actually knows what he's talking about
 
The Quran states, among other things: “It is better not to follow any prophet at all than to follow the false one.”

How great is the irony that they're calling a warmonger a prophet.

We are in the 7. century after Christ: The Levant is conquered, along with all of North Africa, extending as far as parts of the Iberian Peninsula. Islam, a new adaptation of the abrahamic tradition is spreading. Muhammad stands at the helm as the supreme leader, the holy messenger of the final message from the Abrahamic God. A religion that was spread by the sword and forced upon people through fear.

Muhammad’s beautiful and inspiring writings date from his youth and early 20s. He was different back then - more spiritual - before he became a military leader. His entire tone changes after that, too. He shifts from being a peacemaker to a conqueror. I don’t think I need to say what Muhammad thought of Christians and Jews. It’s also best to leave out the content of the Hadith when discussing him, unless you want to talk about pedophilia and other morally questionable behaviors.

The reason there is a division between Shiites and Sunnis today stems from the fact - in addition to other traditions that emerged after his death and disputes among his highest-ranking followers - that Muhammad, in his later years, differed greatly in his words and way of life from his younger self, when he was still wet behind the ears. One group practices a more moderate form of Islam, while the other clearly and unequivocally preaches conquest and advocates for a theocratic state in its most radical form. He was a young, educated man for his time. He could read and write, and felt a spiritual calling to be a messenger of God. Although he had no connection to the lineage of Abraham and was not descended from the royal house of David or Solomon, he was a self-proclaimed madman with his own fan fiction that still resonates today.

Since he has no connection to Abraham’s family tree, nor to the other lineage references in King David and King Solomon, no. Every prophet of the Old Testament can be traced back to Abraham. That is why Genesis begins with a long genealogical account that extends all the way to Jesus. I am simply arguing from a theological perspective here. From the theological perspective of the Abrahamic faith, he is not a prophet - no.
As a Christian muslims are in error and paganism but jews and communists are even worse
 
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Argument often heard: "God can also get angry in the Old Testament and be anti humanitarian"

Yes, but these cannot be verified historically - they are purely theological and mythological concepts. None of the ten plagues described in Exodus can be verified as having struck Egypt historically; No histric evidence of a Great Flood, no destruction of Sodom, etc. Muhammad’s military campaign with his troops, however, was an actual historical event in the 7. century.

The stories in the old Testament go largely back to mesopotamian Myths - for example the story of the great flood, is a story told in Gilgamesh. Reason for the connection with the isrealites and mesopotamian stories is that Abraham was from Uruk. During the time period it was the only civilication on earth with writing, cities etc. Since Abraham was a man who could both write and read, it is safe to say he went away from Uruk to the land of Canaan after god told him to do so. It also is canonical with the path description Abraham took from the bible. It is written he went west. If he would've have been from Egypt for example, he wouldn't have ended up in Canaan, same with any other possible location. Mesopotamia fits.


"Mohammed can be a pedophile and a warmonger and a prophet at the same time"

It’s too bad that followers of Islam are clearly and explicitly called upon to live according to the example of their prophet - which is precisely what makes it problematic.

It’s still a mystery to me how someone on the left who identifies as a liberal can accept such a misanthropic religion. You don’t accept Nazi ideology, after all. So why are you making an exception for Islam? Certain ideologies and religions don’t deserve tolerance - they deserve rejection. The tenets of this religion are incompatible with the values of our European Charter. Period.
 
The tenets of this religion are incompatible with the values of our European Charter. Period.
What do you mean it's incompatible? and also what European charter values, that is too vague, do you mean CFREU?
And if islam isn't compatible, why would another abrahamic religion like Christianity be so?

Correct me if im wrong but the Old testament which is canonical for christians includes divinely commanded conquests and extermination of whole people, and slavery regulations

So if christianity was just about jesus i'd get your point but theres more to it
And comparing islam to nazism is a categorical error, because islam has dozens of reformist, sufi currents just like christianity, so if thats the case would you accept all of Christianity's own internal range to be compatible with "eu values"?
 
What do you mean it's incompatible?
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Correct me if im wrong but the Old testament which is canonical for christians includes divinely commanded conquests and extermination of whole people, and slavery regulations
It does. Whens the last time you heard of someone driving a van into a group of people in the name of YHWH? Can't remember.

Since Europeans are Christians since the holy roman empire and largely ignore the first testament since they believe they should just follow Jesus teachings - it is compatible with our way of iving. You hardly hear any excerpts from the first testament when you visit the church. In fact, talk to most Christians - they haven't a clue about the first testament mostly, despite the fact it is a part of Christianity like you correctly stated.

Point being: Islam does on the other hand not work here. People hold onto the words of conquest by their prophet and it shows. It shows so much that even many leftists are fed up with Islam
 
Can't answer, retard?
I'm not entirely disagreeing with him, I just want to see what he means by incompatible, and incompatible with what exactly

You can't just make claims without expecting to elaborate, it makes it seem like you are just rambling without actual basis
 
Can't answer, retard?
I'm not entirely disagreeing with him, I just want to see what he means by incompatible, and incompatible with what exactly

You can't just make claims without expecting to elaborate, it makes it seem like you are just rambling without actual basis
Im sorry i dont have arguments with people who are mentally challenged i just call them retarded niggers
 
It does. Whens the last time you heard of someone driving a van into a group of people in the name of YHWH? Can't remember.

Since Europeans are Christians since the holy roman empire and largely ignore the first testament since they believe they should just follow Jesus teachings - it is compatible with our way of iving. You hardly hear any excerpts from the first testament when you visit the church. In fact, talk to most Christians - they haven't a clue about the first testament mostly, despite the fact it is a part of Christianity like you correctly stated.

Point being: Islam does on the other hand not work here. People hold onto the words of conquest by their prophet and it shows. It shows so much that even many leftists are fed up with Islam
I think you mistake race with religion, the reason whites don't just do what blacks or sands do, is because they're white, not that they follow a religion that they forgot about a long time ago

And I agree that Islam wouldn't work in the EU, that's just not because it doesn't align with "EU values" it's because whites don't follow religions like that for long, before they all turn lukewarm and eventually separate from it. simply because it's not in their nature
 
I'm not entirely disagreeing with him, I just want to see what he means by incompatible, and incompatible with what exactly
They're goat-fucking, pedophile worshipping rapist sand niggers. Nothing is more incompatible with the west than those barbarians
You can't just make claims without expecting to elaborate, it makes it seem like you are just rambling without actual basis
Literal redditor "source?" Retard. Stop defending subhuman filth, use common sense
 
They're goat-fucking, pedophile worshipping rapist sand niggers. Nothing is more incompatible with the west than those barbarians

Literal redditor "source?" Retard. Stop defending subhuman filth, use common sense
Do you know what basis means? IM NOT ASKING FOR SOURCE FAGGOT

You know what i'm not gonna bother with you fucking actual retards with impaired cognitive function
 
Do you know what basis means? IM NOT ASKING FOR SOURCE FAGGOT

You know what i'm not gonna bother with you fucking actual retards with impaired cognitive function
"i must be right since everyone's disagreeing with me!! They can't see what i see with my massive iq"
 
I think you mistake race with religion, the reason whites don't just do what blacks or sands do, is because they're white, not that they follow a religion that they forgot about a long time ago

And I agree that Islam wouldn't work in the EU, that's just not because it doesn't align with "EU values" it's because whites don't follow religions like that for long, before they all turn lukewarm and eventually separate from it. simply because it's not in their nature
More over the reason a nigger country will follow islam or christianity for eternity is because theyre niggers, and they are just not developed enough to turn away from it unless some obvious external factors apply
 
"i must be right since everyone's disagreeing with me!! They can't see what i see with my massive iq"
"I'm too retarded to think so I'm just going to type bullshit that implies the guy I'm replying to thinks he's smart and above it all using basic reddit comebacks"
 
"I'm too retarded to think so I'm just going to type bullshit that implies the guy I'm replying to thinks he's smart and above it all using basic reddit comebacks"
You're a good goy man, keep at it and maybe you'll get golem of the month one day!
 
Im sorry i dont have arguments with people who are mentally challenged i just call them retarded niggers
You don't have arguments because you're incapable of formulating one with your fried brain watching and acting like a tranime character
 
It does. Whens the last time you heard of someone driving a van into a group of people in the name of YHWH? Can't remember.

Since Europeans are Christians since the holy roman empire and largely ignore the first testament since they believe they should just follow Jesus teachings - it is compatible with our way of iving. You hardly hear any excerpts from the first testament when you visit the church. In fact, talk to most Christians - they haven't a clue about the first testament mostly, despite the fact it is a part of Christianity like you correctly stated.

Point being: Islam does on the other hand not work here. People hold onto the words of conquest by their prophet and it shows. It shows so much that even many leftists are fed up with Islam
Realistically christianity doesn't belong in Europe either. Sure it might have been here for long but it isn't ideal if you know what I mean
 
You don't have arguments because you're incapable of formulating one with your fried brain watching and acting like a tranime character
Pikmin
 
Realistically christianity doesn't belong in Europe either.
Right. It's not from here, yes. Only reason they accepted it was after the fall of the roman empire they wanted to become the next roman empire, or it's continuation rather. Only condition by the pope at the time was that all the pagan germanic and celtic tribes convert to it, which they did.

It seems to work though, at least now. There were some grim chapters of history. Crusades being one of them...
 

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